[_ Old Earth _] The earth is billions of years old, except that its not.

[Routerider]

God created the Earth the way the Bible says he did. End of story.

Here's my response!!! :x

 

[Guest]

God created the Earth the way the Bible says he did. End of story.

:angel: I give this comment an A+. I agree.

 

[SyntaxVorlon]

Hopefully you'll never get into a teaching position in an institute of higher learning. :roll:

 

[Guest]

Hopefully you'll never get into a teaching position in an institute of higher learning. :roll:

:o Not if it's secular!!! you are right! I am not going to teach on any secular or worldly ideas that promote rebellion against God!!!
You can be sure of this,so an A + for you for getting that one right.
Before judging me though,my uncle was a Professor at The University of Louisiana.I cannot even begin to tell you how many teachers are in our family,or those who work for the school system. One works for a College.
We also have a baptist Minister who put himself through school and Seminary.

 

[Barbarian]

We can produce animals totally lacking in microorganisms. And they are indeed, not very healthy. Humans need our normal bacterial flora. And it's not just in the gut. If we lose our normal skin organisms, we become more prone to skin infections; the normal organisms kill off potential pathogens.

And here's a lovely thing:

Demodex folliculorum, a mite that lives in your eyelashes, facial pores, and hair follicles.

Here's three in one follicle:

Just about everyone has them, but they rarely cause any problems.

Here's a discussion of normal bacterial flora of humans:
http://www.advance.jp/htdocs_old/flora/science-e.html

 

[Guest]

We can produce animals totally lacking in microorganisms. And they are indeed, not very healthy.

And your point is?

 

[foolsparade]

Hopefully you'll never get into a teaching position in an institute of higher learning. :roll:

:o Not if it's secular!!! you are right! I am not going to teach on any secular or worldly ideas that promote rebellion against God!!!
You can be sure of this,so an A + for you for getting that one right.
Before judging me though,my uncle was a Professor at The University of Louisiana.I cannot even begin to tell you how many teachers are in our family,or those who work for the school system. One works for a College.
We also have a baptist Minister who put himself through school and Seminary.

So you admit to your predjudice. That is good. I would hope you would stay far away from institutes of higher learning.

 

[Guest]

So you admit to your predjudice. That is good. I would hope you would stay far away from institutes of higher learning. [/quote]


:B-fly: O.k.,hmmm.............
Did you like the debate? Was it good for you too?

P.S.
can you define higher learning for me?

 

[SyntaxVorlon]

Universities, colleges, academies, high schools, everything for anyone over 14. That's sort of the definition of higher learning.

The bible said that the stars cannot be numbered 3000 years before astronomers figured it out.

Yes they can, they are numbered, fairly well in fact.
What are you talking about?

 

[Guest]

What are you talking about? :roll:

What am I talking about? The world has many,many,many schools,doesn't it?

I believe the bible. Just because you think man can number the stars
doesn't mean I have to believe it.
If that makes me found ignorant,then so be it.
I don't believe man can or ever has been able to number all the stars.
So We don't agree.

 

[SyntaxVorlon]

We can fairly easily number all the stars that are in the sky, there are ~100000 of them that you can see with the naked eye on a clear night without any moonlight.

 

[Guest]

We can fairly easily number all the stars that are in the sky, there are ~100000 of them that you can see with the naked eye on a clear night without any moonlight.

:angel: But they are not all numbered by humans. We cannot number them all,especially since there are stars we don't even know about .

 

[Guest]

Universities, colleges, academies, high schools, everything for anyone over 14. That's sort of the definition of higher learning.

:B-fly: I don't think it's write for teachers to lie to the students or for schools to use text books that lie. There are many teachers who will get fired if they don't teach evolution.
Hitler once said that if he controled the text books he could control the state.
Darwin himself never had an education in science. He was only trained in theology,and he was never a scientist,but he tried to teach it based on his own person ideas of what he wished it to be,rather than what it really is.

http://www.drdino.com

the bible says in 2nd Peter 3:3 - 5 THAT the scoffers in the last days will be willingly ignorant. They will be ignorant on purpose!

I don't doubt that evolution will continue to be accepted,I just doubt that atheist will exist soon.

 

[Barbarian]

I don't think it's write for teachers to lie to the students or for schools to use text books that lie.

I get to review science text books. Give me the name and the publisher of one that "lies."

There are many teachers who will get fired if they don't teach evolution.

There are many English teachers who will get fired if they don't teach grammar. Imagine that.

Hitler once said that if he controled the text books he could control the state.

Do you have a reference for that?

Darwin himself never had an education in science. He was only trained in theology,and he was never a scientist,but he tried to teach it based on his own person ideas of what he wished it to be,rather than what it really is.

You might read some of Darwin's scientific papers. They are very well written and accurate. He was a member of some very prestiegious scientific societies, and was, quite apart from his work on evolution, considered to be a world-class biologist. His work on barnacles, for example, was highly regarded.

the bible says in 2nd Peter 3:3 - 5 THAT the scoffers in the last days will be willingly ignorant. They will be ignorant on purpose!

Hovind is considered ignorant, even by many creationists. His scoffing means little to science.

 

[Guest]

:Fade-color Sounds like someone is taking too many liberal text books seriously!!! Let it go!

You are free to look into the life of Hitler and find out what all he has said.Most of it is very frightening,and he did believe in evolution too,if you must know.
Darwin was not a scientist.Thats my point.
Circular arguments don't make any sense to me,and those who won't teach the liberal views of today as fact will get fired from most schools today.
If you want to control society you have to change what is taught in the schools.

Don't believe every liberal text book you read.
2nd Peter 3:3 - 5 is still very true for today.

 

[cubedbee]

Circular arguments don't make any sense to me

They don't make sense to us either. Please stop using them.

 

[Barbarian]

Sounds like someone is taking too many liberal text books seriously!!! Let it go!

I've never seen a "liberal" or a "conservative" textbook.

You are free to look into the life of Hitler and find out what all he has said.

I've done a good deal of that. A collegue is working on a book on the Nazis, a scholarly work. And I've never seen that one. Where did you get it? My guess is you don't have any idea whether it's a fake or not.

Most of it is very frightening,and he did believe in evolution too,if you must know.

He believed in automobiles and electric power. And many other scientific an technological things. And he occasionally professed to be a Christian.
Shall we avoid these things because he accepted them?

Darwin was not a scientist.Thats my point.

Darwin, in his time, was regarded as a prominent scientist. He is now considered one of the great scientists of all time.

Circular arguments don't make any sense to me,and those who won't teach the liberal views of today as fact will get fired from most schools today.

If you're a science teacher, they expect you to teach science. That's how it is. There's no point in saying you don't believe what scientists have found. You can't teach history and claim that Jefferson wrote the Magna Carta, either.

Don't believe every liberal text book you read.
2nd Peter 3:3 - 5 is still very true for today.

YE creationism is indeed a latter-day doctrine, borrowed from the 7th-Day Adventists. You would be wise not to scoff.

 

[cd27]

are you familiar with a new finding that you can create REAL dimonds in jsut a days, instead of the original billions of years it takes to create then....or is it really even billions of years? you should be aware that the earth, when it was first being created, and this was rather short period of time, was extremely fast. no, the way these scientists created these dimonds was by using presure..hmmm..interesting isn't it? would you be kind enough to think that such force of ravid rotations would cause wuite a bit of pressure on the mollecules of this planet, more so nearer to the core you get? now, if you put in acount for the great flood, which can also be proven. take a glass jar, fill it with all different densities of dirts, fill it with water, shake it up until all the dirts are completely mixed together. make sure there is more water than there is dirt. let it sit until all the water evaporates, well, oh my gosh, can you beleive it? the dirt has settled in layers, from heaviest to lightest. isn't that fascinating? also, the fact that these molecules should seem more aged the closer they get to the core, hmmm...interesting, so the earth really was created within 6,000 to 10,000 years ago.

 

[gospelmidi]

God created in 6 days, with appearance of age.

In six "evenings and mornings," God created all that is,
with the appearance of age.

I think that this doctrine is so contested because "six days and a rest"
points directly (II Peter 3:3-9) to "six thousand years and a rest"
- the Millenium. If Christians lived in the light of the six "days/millenia"
correlation, they would be busy winning their friends and neighbors
to Christ in these last days before the rapture and the tribulation.

The Jewish calendar is at 5764, and on Oct. 26, 2028,
asteroid 1997 XF11 makes a near-earth approach (591,000 miles).
http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/ca_97xf11.html
I'm NOT setting dates; Jesus could return before you finish reading
this. But as much as we do know of the times and the seasons,
we should be busy seeking the power of the Holy Spirit to witness.

The father of lies wants to make people think there are another
18 billion years to come. Then there is no hurry to tell our
acquaintances that Jesus died, rose again, and is Lord of all, and
there is no hurry to call all men to repent.

God grant me to practice what I'm preaching.

 

[Barbarian]

are you familiar with a new finding that you can create REAL dimonds in jsut a days

Hours, actually. All you have to do, is exceed the heat/pressure levels seen in nature. And we can do it a lot faster than nature can.

instead of the original billions of years it takes to create then

I don't think anyone thought "billions".

would you be kind enough to think that such force of ravid rotations would cause wuite a bit of pressure on the mollecules of this planet, more so nearer to the core you get? now, if you put in acount for the great flood, which can also be proven. take a glass jar, fill it with all different densities of dirts, fill it with water, shake it up until all the dirts are completely mixed together. make sure there is more water than there is dirt. let it sit until all the water evaporates, well, oh my gosh, can you beleive it? the dirt has settled in layers, from heaviest to lightest.

Yep. Planets aggregate like that, too.

isn't that fascinating? also, the fact that these molecules should seem more aged the closer they get to the core,

Aged? How so?

hmmm...interesting, so the earth really was created within 6,000 to 10,000 years ago.

Nope. Can't be. For one thing, the Himalayas, which are still rising from the still observable movement of the Indian plate against the Eurasian Plate, could not have formed in that time. And yet they formed.

There are many other reasons why the Earth could not possibly be 10,000 years old. Would you like to learn about some of them?