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The Gentiles coming occupation of Jerusalem

Shilohsfoal

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It is written of the gentiles occupation of Jerusalem, that it will last 42 months.

Has anyone considered who these Gentiles are?
Why the Israeli government has given these Gentiles the ability to occupy Jerusalem without conflict?
What nationality these Gentiles are(where are they from) ?
And what religion do these Gentiles claim to be of, if any(Christian, Muslim, hindu, ect)?

Scripture answers all of these questions but how many people actually pay enough attention to scripture, for scripture to instruct you?


Go back and forth through the scriptures and your knowledge will increase.
 

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John was to measure the Spiritual temple of God as being those who are truly in Christ through the Spiritual rebirth that worship Him in all truths, John 3:3-7, which make up the temple of God as being the body of Christ. The symbolic here represents God separating and protecting His people. The temple of God is no longer made by hand since the veil of the temple was torn from top to bottom, Matthew 27:50, 51; Acts 7:48-51. The temple of God is within man that has the indwelling of the Holy Spirit that keeps himself undefiled before the Lord, Matthew 27:51; Mark 7:15-23; 1 Corinthians 3:16, 17.

The outer court represents that of the control the Gentiles (Revived Roman Empire) will once again have over the Holy city like that of 70AD as they take full control over Jerusalem and trampled it for 3 ½ years at the sounding of the seventh trumpet as we will see history repeat itself. Matthew 24:21 Jesus said this will be the worst tribulation there has ever been nor will ever be again.

During this time once again the Roman Empire will take control of the temple mount in Jerusalem as a New World Order is even now being set up that will be one single world government of economic, political and religious power. They will bring back the sacrifices in the last part of the three and a half years or at the end of Daniels seventy week vision in Daniel chapter 9.

This sacrifice they make is not the sacrifice for the forgiveness of sin, but will be a sacrifice in that of persecuting Christians to death as they refuse to bow down to this Nebuchadnezzar type system. It’s like that of Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego in Daniel Chapter 3 as they refused to bow down and worship the idols of Baal and God rescued them from the fire. The fulfillment of the times of the Gentile is that of the Gentiles that will not repent as they fulfill the prophecy of the beast and the false prophet that are thrown into the lake of fire with Satan at Gods final judgment.


 

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John was to measure the Spiritual temple of God as being those who are truly in Christ through the Spiritual rebirth that worship Him in all truths, John 3:3-7, which make up the temple of God as being the body of Christ. The symbolic here represents God separating and protecting His people. The temple of God is no longer made by hand since the veil of the temple was torn from top to bottom, Matthew 27:50, 51; Acts 7:48-51. The temple of God is within man that has the indwelling of the Holy Spirit that keeps himself undefiled before the Lord, Matthew 27:51; Mark 7:15-23; 1 Corinthians 3:16, 17.

The outer court represents that of the control the Gentiles (Revived Roman Empire) will once again have over the Holy city like that of 70AD as they take full control over Jerusalem and trampled it for 3 ½ years at the sounding of the seventh trumpet as we will see history repeat itself. Matthew 24:21 Jesus said this will be the worst tribulation there has ever been nor will ever be again.

During this time once again the Roman Empire will take control of the temple mount in Jerusalem as a New World Order is even now being set up that will be one single world government of economic, political and religious power. They will bring back the sacrifices in the last part of the three and a half years or at the end of Daniels seventy week vision in Daniel chapter 9.

This sacrifice they make is not the sacrifice for the forgiveness of sin, but will be a sacrifice in that of persecuting Christians to death as they refuse to bow down to this Nebuchadnezzar type system. It’s like that of Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego in Daniel Chapter 3 as they refused to bow down and worship the idols of Baal and God rescued them from the fire. The fulfillment of the times of the Gentile is that of the Gentiles that will not repent as they fulfill the prophecy of the beast and the false prophet that are thrown into the lake of fire with Satan at Gods final judgment.


I'm sorry, Rome has no interest in Jerusalem and Italy does not have the resources to rise again.
It's a pipe dream or fairy tale and definitely not reality for Rome to be anymore than it is already. Flat busted broke.
 

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I never mentioned Rome, Italy. You might want to study the history beginning with the Babylonian Empire up to the Roman Empire to understand whose deadly wound was healed by Mussolini in 1929 as these are the gentiles mentioned in Rev 11:2.
 

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I never mentioned Rome, Italy. You might want to study the history beginning with the Babylonian Empire up to the Roman Empire to understand whose deadly wound was healed by Mussolini in 1929 as these are the gentiles mentioned in Rev 11:2.
You wrote (rivived roman empire).
Go back and look and you will find that you did.
Rome was the capital city of the (Roman empire) you spoke of.
PS, Rome did not suddenly appear to have died. That was a kingdom known as Israel which appeared to have recieved a fatal wound.
But it is now a revived kingdom.
 

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You wrote (rivived roman empire).
Go back and look and you will find that you did.
Rome was the capital city of the (Roman empire) you spoke of.
PS, Rome did not suddenly appear to have died. That was a kingdom known as Israel which appeared to have recieved a fatal wound.
But it is now a revived kingdom.

I went back and read my post #2 and all I said was a revived Roman Empire, not Rome or Italy.

The Roman Empire began in 753BC by Romulus who founded Rome in 27BC with Augustus Caesar becoming the first emperor of Rome in 27 BC and died in 14AD. Rome controlled over two million square miles stretching from the Rhine River to Egypt and from Britain (England) to Asia Minor which made up the Grecian Empire of Greece, Turkey, Syria and Egypt. In 146BC the Romans destroyed Corinth during the Battle of Corinth and made the Greece Empire into a province of the Roman Empire. This timeline goes from 753BC to 27BC. Nero burned Rome in 64AD and blamed the Christian community in the city causing the Roman Empires first persecution of Christians. In 1453 was the rise of the Ottoman Empire that conquered Constantinople destroying the Byzantine Empire (Eastern Roman Empire) that reigned from 330AD to 1453AD. The Roman Empire was then called the Holy Roman Empire that was a political entity beginning in 800AD - 1806AD from the time of Charlemagne (Holy Roman Emperor) who protected Pope Leo III from Adrian's supporters in Rome to Francis II, King of France. Pope Pius VII was the Pope from 1800-1823. The Roman Empire is known today as Vatican City, a city-state surrounded by Rome and Italy who has diplomatic relations with every nation around the world.
 

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I went back and read my post #2 and all I said was a revived Roman Empire, not Rome or Italy.

The Roman Empire began in 753BC by Romulus who founded Rome in 27BC with Augustus Caesar becoming the first emperor of Rome in 27 BC and died in 14AD. Rome controlled over two million square miles stretching from the Rhine River to Egypt and from Britain (England) to Asia Minor which made up the Grecian Empire of Greece, Turkey, Syria and Egypt. In 146BC the Romans destroyed Corinth during the Battle of Corinth and made the Greece Empire into a province of the Roman Empire. This timeline goes from 753BC to 27BC. Nero burned Rome in 64AD and blamed the Christian community in the city causing the Roman Empires first persecution of Christians. In 1453 was the rise of the Ottoman Empire that conquered Constantinople destroying the Byzantine Empire (Eastern Roman Empire) that reigned from 330AD to 1453AD. The Roman Empire was then called the Holy Roman Empire that was a political entity beginning in 800AD - 1806AD from the time of Charlemagne (Holy Roman Emperor) who protected Pope Leo III from Adrian's supporters in Rome to Francis II, King of France. Pope Pius VII was the Pope from 1800-1823. The Roman Empire is known today as Vatican City, a city-state surrounded by Rome and Italy who has diplomatic relations with every nation around the world.
Well there won't be a revived Roman empire.
There is a revived Israel founded by antichrist jews who reject Christ and have chosen thier own King.

This revived Israel is said to be a harlot by the prophet and is said to kill saints by Christ.
There are many people who love the prostitute and can't see her sin though it is so great.
 

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Well there won't be a revived Roman empire.
There is a revived Israel founded by antichrist jews who reject Christ and have chosen thier own King.

This revived Israel is said to be a harlot by the prophet and is said to kill saints by Christ.
There are many people who love the prostitute and can't see her sin though it is so great.
Could you please give me those scriptures so I can read them for what you say here, thank you.
 

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Could you please give me those scriptures so I can read them for what you say here, thank you.
Which one do you want to see?
That Jerusalem is a harlot?
That Israel did not exist for nearly 2000 years but has been revived? (that's history)
That those who deny Jesus as the Christ are antichrist?
That the Israelis have made thier own King?
That the followers of Christ will be persecuted throughout Israel and many shall be put to death till Christ comes?
Which one are you wanting me yo show you?
 
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Which one do you want to see?
That Jerusalem is a harlot?
That Israel did not exist for nearly 2000 years but has been revived? (that's history)
That those who deny Jesus as the Christ are antichrist?
That the Israelis have made thier own King?
That the followers of Christ will be persecuted throughout Israel and many shall be put to death till Christ comes?
Which one are you wanting me yo show you?
I want the scriptures you use for what you said in post #7
 

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I want the scriptures you use for what you said in post #7
I said several things in post 7.What exactly are you wanting to see scripture for?
If you will make a specific request concerning what I've said at any time, I will gladly post the verse.
 

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This is what I would like to have you give the scripture for this.

Murderers who murder Saints. The murders continue till Christ comes.


The last 3 1/2 years before Christ comes are perticularly bad in Israel as the saints there are persecuted and killed.
 

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What do those scriptures you posted have to do with knowing who "MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH, is, Rev 17. Are you saying Jerusalem is mystery Babylon and what will take place for 3 1/2 years after the seventh trumpet is sounded is only confined in Jerusalem?

Isaiah Chapters 1-12 is about God's judgement against Judah as she played the part of a harlot whoring after idols as they turned away from God, but many did repent and turned back to Him.

When studying the history of the twelve tribes of Israel being the sons of Jacob/Israel we find from 1047 B.C. and 931 B.C. the twelve tribes were under the leadership of three Kings, Saul, David and Solomon. Near the end of Solomon's reign he fell into idolatry and God spoke of tearing apart the Kingdom as judgment for these sins, 1 Kings 11:10-12.

After Solomon's death his son Rehoboam became King and those ten Northern tribes (Israel/Ephraim) rebelled against King Rehoboam and followed after Jeroboam up North causing a division of the north and south Kingdom. Only the tribe of Judah (Judah) and the tribe of Benjamin (Judah) stayed Loyal to King Rehoboam in the southern Kingdom for they kept Gods commandments as they knew David was the lineage of the promised Messiah as it was prophesied of the prophets of God. For almost two centuries the two Kingdoms where divided, but a remnant of the ten tribes soon came back to Judah after following Jeroboam as he turned the northern Kingdom into idol worshippers.

This is the importance of the 144,000 of the house of Israel and their generations unto the end of days. There were those of the old covenant that were faithful to God in keeping all his commandments and repented of their idol worshipping. Their generations who have also come back to Gods grace that are still alive during the seven trumpet sounds will continue to preach to the Jews as it was with the twelve disciples in Matthew 10:6. The generations of the 144,000 that are still alive have the seal of God on them which are the seven Spirits of God as they will have to endure much persecution until the end of days before the return of Jesus.


(Seven Spirits of God are found in Isaiah 11:2 and mentioned in Rev 1:4.
Spirit of the Lord, wisdom, understanding, counsel, power, knowledge and fear/respect of the Lord.)​
 

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What do those scriptures you posted have to do with knowing who "MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH, is, Rev 17. Are you saying Jerusalem is mystery Babylon and what will take place for 3 1/2 years after the seventh trumpet is sounded is only confined in Jerusalem?

Isaiah Chapters 1-12 is about God's judgement against Judah as she played the part of a harlot whoring after idols as they turned away from God, but many did repent and turned back to Him.

When studying the history of the twelve tribes of Israel being the sons of Jacob/Israel we find from 1047 B.C. and 931 B.C. the twelve tribes were under the leadership of three Kings, Saul, David and Solomon. Near the end of Solomon's reign he fell into idolatry and God spoke of tearing apart the Kingdom as judgment for these sins, 1 Kings 11:10-12.

After Solomon's death his son Rehoboam became King and those ten Northern tribes (Israel/Ephraim) rebelled against King Rehoboam and followed after Jeroboam up North causing a division of the north and south Kingdom. Only the tribe of Judah (Judah) and the tribe of Benjamin (Judah) stayed Loyal to King Rehoboam in the southern Kingdom for they kept Gods commandments as they knew David was the lineage of the promised Messiah as it was prophesied of the prophets of God. For almost two centuries the two Kingdoms where divided, but a remnant of the ten tribes soon came back to Judah after following Jeroboam as he turned the northern Kingdom into idol worshippers.

This is the importance of the 144,000 of the house of Israel and their generations unto the end of days. There were those of the old covenant that were faithful to God in keeping all his commandments and repented of their idol worshipping. Their generations who have also come back to Gods grace that are still alive during the seven trumpet sounds will continue to preach to the Jews as it was with the twelve disciples in Matthew 10:6. The generations of the 144,000 that are still alive have the seal of God on them which are the seven Spirits of God as they will have to endure much persecution until the end of days before the return of Jesus.


(Seven Spirits of God are found in Isaiah 11:2 and mentioned in Rev 1:4.
Spirit of the Lord, wisdom, understanding, counsel, power, knowledge and fear/respect of the Lord.)​


You believe the harlot has already been judged and Jerusalem is now this day a faithful city?
 

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I never said that. I said Isaiah Chapters 1-12 is about God's judgement against Judah in that time period of history as she played the part of a harlot whoring after idols as they turned away from God, but many did repent and turned back to Him.
 

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I never said that. I said Isaiah Chapters 1-12 is about God's judgement against Judah in that time period of history as she played the part of a harlot whoring after idols as they turned away from God, but many did repent and turned back to Him.
Jerusalem is a harlot today. So many Antichrists in such a small area. So many worshiping everything except God.
Shoot, Tel Aviv is called the gayest city on earth.

Yes after God has judged the harlot Jerusalem and has accomplished his wrath upon the occupants of Israel who worship other things. God shall give Jerusalem righteous counselors. Then it will be called the faithful city.
 

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It's only when we truly learn who the beast out of the sea and out of the earth are that we will know who mystery Babylon is that has always persecuted God's people and continue to do so until the return of Christ. Jerusalem will never be called the faithful city until the New Jerusalem is ushered down from heaven, Rev 21:1-3.
 
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