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The Holy War

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I did not ask you who the 10 virgins were, nor did I ask you ask you to explain what you thought the oil lamps represent. Yet you set out to offer your knowledge of the ten virgins as a deflection from honestly answering my simple question.

Where is the oil lamp in the gospel armor? It's a rhetorical question for the oh so wise virgin.





Um? :thinking



Obviously, because you just ignore them, and think to know better anyway.
I did answer your question, but it seems you did not understand my answer.

You said: Amidst all that fine armor, the marching boots, the helmet, the shield and sword; might I ask the wise virgin where the oil trim lamp may be?

My answer in post # 22 was:
Lamps represent the word of God in all truths as thy word is a lamp unto my feet. Foolish virgins had no truth found in them.

Oil represents the anointing of the Holy Spirit which the foolish virgins had not.

This is all found in Ephesians 6:10-20.

BTW, I always support what I say with scripture as we all need to be doing and if someone does not agree with my understanding then we should be able to discuss the indifference like mature adults as I will be the first one to admit I might not always be right and am always opened for correction as the Holy Spirit works through those to send correction when needed.
 

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You have prepared yourself with a gospel of wrath, not the gospel of peace. Your feet are shod with boots of destruction.

You have girt your loins with truth, but what truth is that? What ever you claim to be truth to be from the scripture? Do you know all truths? Are you ever wrong? If so, then your truth falters.

And what is in the Breastplate of Righteousness that you wear. Is it your own righteousness as you measure yourself by the law? Your own righteous acts?

You put on your helmet of Salvation, but does that helmet fit you sure? Perhaps it is modeled after the doctrines of men? Which model do you wear, the Calvanist? How bout one of those OSAS discussions?

And your shield of faith, constructed finely of your own beliefs locked away tightly in the scriptures. You take a dent from time to time, but your faith is able to reconstruct it, as you acquiesce to new beliefs.

So every time you take a fiery dart from the enemy, you stomp about and flail your sword. When you settle down, you adjust your helmet, tighten your belt, shine your breastplate and then fix your shield.




If the good man has already succumbed to his death in warfare, then what threat of death remains for the good man in the resurrection?
I asked you four legit questions so I could possibly know your understanding within those questions and all you give back is sarcasm!!!

If you can not be mature enough to discuss with me your understanding of scripture then I will no longer reply to you in this topic as all you want to do is attack and belittle everything I say to you as you always do with me.
 

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Where is this Holy war that you speak of in the scripture?
The War can be clearly seen in the Life of Jesus.

John 8
58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
59 Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.

And you are called to manifest the same Life. You will be persecuted when you are ready.

Mat. 10
21 And the brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death.
22 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name’s sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.

But it is not for the Babies of God.

Where the Bride is arrayed in armor to go to war?

Just after the Marriage those are anointing to War.

7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready.
8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.
9 And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God.
10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.
11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.

They are no longer Children of God. They reached Adult Life and have Adult Abilities.

Who is this enemy in the World that you wish to take on?
Sure. We have to be ready to wittness too when we are asked. Because a Truth that does not manifest in a Life actually Lived is no Truth.

When you are a Bride of God and anointed to be a Warrior your Life shows. So I am persecuted by my hometown and live now in another community. I am persecuted for standing up as a Warrior against the evil spirit in ruling in fear and punishment. Specially in the Christian households between the parents and the children.


And now it is a benefit to all in the world.


My whole life changed as result.



Where in the beatitudes are the Warmongers being blessed?
Mat. 5
10 Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness’ sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.
12 Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.
 

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The War can be clearly seen in the Life of Jesus.

John 8
58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
59 Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.

And you are called to manifest the same Life. You will be persecuted when you are ready.

Mat. 10
21 And the brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death.
22 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name’s sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.

But it is not for the Babies of God.




Just after the Marriage those are anointing to War.

7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready.
8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.
9 And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God.
10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.
11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.

They are no longer Children of God. They reached Adult Life and have Adult Abilities.



Sure. We have to be ready to wittness too when we are asked. Because a Truth that does not manifest in a Life actually Lived is no Truth.

When you are a Bride of God and anointed to be a Warrior your Life shows. So I am persecuted by my hometown and live now in another community. I am persecuted for standing up as a Warrior against the evil spirit in ruling in fear and punishment. Specially in the Christian households between the parents and the children.


And now it is a benefit to all in the world.


My whole life changed as result.





Mat. 5
10 Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness’ sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.
12 Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.
Strange... Here I see thing's quoted in my name that I have never said!!
What's this??
 

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The War can be clearly seen in the Life of Jesus.

John 8
58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
59 Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.

And you are called to manifest the same Life. You will be persecuted when you are ready.

Mat. 10
21 And the brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death.
22 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name’s sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.

But it is not for the Babies of God.




Just after the Marriage those are anointing to War.

7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready.
8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.
9 And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God.
10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.
11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.

They are no longer Children of God. They reached Adult Life and have Adult Abilities.



Sure. We have to be ready to wittness too when we are asked. Because a Truth that does not manifest in a Life actually Lived is no Truth.

When you are a Bride of God and anointed to be a Warrior your Life shows. So I am persecuted by my hometown and live now in another community. I am persecuted for standing up as a Warrior against the evil spirit in ruling in fear and punishment. Specially in the Christian households between the parents and the children.


And now it is a benefit to all in the world.


My whole life changed as result.





Mat. 5
10 Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness’ sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.
12 Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.
Oh.. it's Ezrider that has said it and posted to me..
Think it looks like me when it's not. (Nothing against Ezrider)
 

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He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.
This is speaking about you that overcame yourself. You died on the cross and were resurrected by God in teh Life of His Son, Jesus. And you are clothed in the Righteousness of Jesus. And you are White before His eyes.

But that is not the only Characteristic of Jesus. One of them is Wisdom.

1 Cor. 1
30 But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption:

When Wisdom is created in you then you start with your Characteristic in Jesus to Rule as King of kings and Lord of lords.

Proverbs 8
14 Counsel is mine, and sound wisdom: I am understanding; I have strength.
15 By me kings reign, and princes decree justice.
16 By me princes rule, and nobles, even all the judges of the earth.
17 I love them that love me; and those that seek me early shall find me.
18 Riches and honour are with me; yea, durable riches and righteousness.
19 My fruit is better than gold, yea, than fine gold; and my revenue than choice silver.
20 I lead in the way of righteousness, in the midst of the paths of judgment:*n4
21 That I may cause those that love me to inherit substance; and I will fill their treasures.

Solomon had this as a gift from God. You get it when you reach Adult Life and have to venture into Bride of God existence where these Characteristics are created in you. Because they are all present in the Word and are waiting to be Created in you when you are ready.

It is part of the Word to "hate" evil.

Hebrews 1
9 Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.

And it shows and manifested in the "Zeal" of the Lord.

John 2
15 And when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the changers’ money, and overthrew the tables;
16 And said unto them that sold doves, Take these things hence; make not my Father’s house an house of merchandise.
17 And his disciples remembered that it was written, The zeal of thine house hath eaten me up.
 

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The War can be clearly seen in the Life of Jesus.

John 8
58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
59 Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.

And you are called to manifest the same Life. You will be persecuted when you are ready.

Mat. 10
21 And the brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death.
22 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name’s sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.

But it is not for the Babies of God.




Just after the Marriage those are anointing to War.

7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready.
8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.
9 And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God.
10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.
11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.

They are no longer Children of God. They reached Adult Life and have Adult Abilities.



Sure. We have to be ready to wittness too when we are asked. Because a Truth that does not manifest in a Life actually Lived is no Truth.

When you are a Bride of God and anointed to be a Warrior your Life shows. So I am persecuted by my hometown and live now in another community. I am persecuted for standing up as a Warrior against the evil spirit in ruling in fear and punishment. Specially in the Christian households between the parents and the children.


And now it is a benefit to all in the world.


My whole life changed as result.





Mat. 5
10 Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness’ sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.
12 Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.
Well Jesus had the same war as we have today. Only he died and went to crush and utterly defeat satan in three days.
So He already won the fight. And also won it for us!
In that sense we are already victorious!!
Hallelujah!!
 

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Well Jesus had the same war as we have today. Only he died and went to crush and utterly defeat satan in three days.
So He already won the fight. And also won it for us!
In that sense we are already victorious!!
Hallelujah!!
Sure. We are. But we will have to "Fight" when we are ready. Without that we can not be "conquerors" ourselves. Many has done this "Fighting" in the past and even died for it. But they were ready. It is not for the "Babies" of God.
 

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Sure. We are. But we will have to "Fight" when we are ready. Without that we can not be "conquerors" ourselves. Many has done this "Fighting" in the past and even died for it. But they were ready. It is not for the "Babies" of God.
I totally agree with that.. And I am sad to say that most Christian people are not fully grown or even ready.
I know exactly what you are talking about and..
Jesus said:

My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge [of My law, where I reveal My will]. Because you [the priestly nation] have rejected knowledge, I will also reject you from being My priest. Since you have forgotten the law of your God, I will also forget your children.
Hosea 4:6 AMP
 

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As you have said, if you are called to battle....


But armor is not the garment of a Bride, nor is a Bride called to fight, for she is at rest.


Put on your amor of God, fashioned in your own design. Run off to do battle; But careful that you don't find yourself fighting against Zion.
1 Tim. 6:12
Fight the good fight of the faith. Take hold of the eternal life to which you were called when you made your good confession in the presence of many witnesses.
 

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I am quite familiar with the chapter and verse.

Where does it say we are to run off to do battle?
1 Tim 6:12
Fight the good fight of the faith. Take hold of the eternal life to which you were called when you made your good confession in the presence of many witnesses.
 

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I asked you four legit questions so I could possibly know your understanding within those questions and all you give back is sarcasm!!!

If you can not be mature enough to discuss with me your understanding of scripture then I will no longer reply to you in this topic as all you want to do is attack and belittle everything I say to you as you always do with me.

And I took the time to respond to one of them. You asked me what I understood about the armor, and I gave you a look of what I know of the gospel armor, but you didn't like it; you only took it as sarcasm. Maybe it hits too close to home.

But all you seem to do is point to the scripture, beyond that you offer nothing. Don't just post the scriptures from Ephesians 6 that talks of the gospel armor. Tell us about your gospel armor. Describe it for us. Tell us about your shield of faith. How is it that your feet are shod. The gospel armor is something you put on for yourself, surely you can describe it for us?
 

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This I have heard :) just sounded a little different from what you first said.
Maybe my misunderstanding :)

I'll repeat for you what I first said.

Does the Calf of the stall tread out the corn with the Ox?
 

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Sorry. Not really English speaking as first language..
Can you please explain?
It's a rhetorical question.

You asked for the scripture about the Ox. That I gave to you. Now I will leave it to you to look for the calves of the stall.
 

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It's a rhetorical question.

You asked for the scripture about the Ox. That I gave to you. Now I will leave it to you to look for the calves of the stall.
I know a little bit myself.. don't feel the need to get condescending remarks.
Christians ought to help eachother..
 
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