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Bible Study The Socially Acceptable Sin

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The Socially Acceptable Sin
It’s everywhere in our society and churches, yet almost never talked about.

By Jason Todd
April 16, 2015
Jason Todd is Assistant Minister to Students at New Community Church in Wildwood, MO. He is currently finishing his M.Div. at Covenant Theological Seminary.
Most Christians today like to say that all sins are “equal” in the eyes of God, that there is no scale of less or worse sins, that a white lie or a homicide alike would have been enough to require Christ to die on the cross. We say this in theory, but in practice, we know that a white lie won’t get you kicked off the church leadership team. And a homicide likely will.
In practice, there are some sins that are socially acceptable, even in the Church. There’s one sin in particular that has pervaded our society and churches so silently we hardly give it a second thought, and that is the constant hunt for more over what is enough. Or, in an uglier terminology, what is known as gluttony.
When I think about gluttony, I think about my desire to shove a dozen donuts into my mouth and wash them down with chocolate milk. Or perhaps it’s my tendency to mindlessly feed chips to a stomach that’s no longer hungry. Many of us can look at the sin of gluttony and think, “That’s not really my struggle.” Or, we think, “What’s the big deal?” After all, most congregations have compulsive over-eaters among them, and they’re not considered “less spiritual” or “backslidden” for it.
But gluttony has never been merely an addiction to food. And if we look at it in its original definition and context, gluttony becomes far closer to home than we’d like to admit.
At its simplest, gluttony is the soul’s addiction to excess.
At its simplest, gluttony is the soul’s addiction to excess. It occurs when taste overrules hunger, when want outweighs need. And in America, where upsizing has always been part of the American dream, it’s often difficult to distinguish what is hard-earned achievement and what is indulgent excess. In this sense, even the most athletic and toned among us can be gluttons. Any of us can be.
All desire for excess stems from a lack of satisfaction. I’m not satisfied with my portion—be it the portion on my plate, in the marriage bed, or in my bank account. Because I’m not satisfied with my portion, I then seek a greater portion. But because every portion is a finite part of a finite whole, I am constantly chasing an excess that can never satisfy.
This is the story of Genesis 3. What was the sin in the Garden of Eden if not a desire for excess? Adam and Eve were given beautiful sights and beautiful tastes in the absence of shame, but what made the garden a paradise was not any of this. It was a paradise because God walked in the cool of the day with them. And yet, Adam and Eve’s downfall was because they deemed even this as not enough. They weren’t content with their portion of paradise, and they reached out—to disastrous consequence—for more.
Like them, we are ravenous beings. We embody bottomless cravings that constantly paw at the next attractive thing. Our appetites are as strong as death, Proverbs 27:20 tells us. We are always on the move for the next thing that can satisfy and slake our restless thirst. This endless pull is the engine of gluttony. It propels our souls ever toward excess.
And yet, the desire for “more” is not inherently bad, but it is often misdirected. What we need is a relentless appetite for the divine. We need a holy ravenousness. Our craving souls can turn and become enthralled by a goodness that is found in the presence of an all-glorious God. There is only one infinite source of satisfaction that can satisfy our bottomless cravings.
A taste of His supreme grace is enough to lure an appetite long held prisoner to lesser portions. If stolen water is sweet, lavished grace is sweeter.
And here’s a strange side effect: The more we drink deeply of the endless love of an infinite God, the more our tastes will be changed. The deep bright marrow of grace will drip down into the restless souls of the ever-hungry.
The desire for “more” is not inherently bad, but it is often misdirected. What we need is a relentless appetite for the divine. We need a holy ravenousness.
In pursuit of lesser portions, our tastes have dulled. We’ve become numb to our real hungers, filling them with lesser fare. But when we return to the source, we taste anew.
Psalm 34:8 challenges us to see the difference for ourselves: “Taste and see that the Lord is good.” I think Paul understood this verse when he told the people at Lystra that God gives food and gladness so that our hearts would turn from vain things and turn to the ultimate satisfaction of who God is (Acts 14:15-17).
Consequently, if God has ordained that His goodness can be tasted and seen (and, I would submit, heard, smelled and touched), this has at least two direct implications. First, it means that every finite pleasure and satisfaction is meant to point us toward the infinite pleasure and satisfaction of God. My admiration for a sunset, then, need not stop at that horizon, rather it can curve upward into praise and gratitude. Second, it means that if our desire for "more" is misplaced, then certainly it can be redirected to something good as well.
 
I lived with constant excess' and I, until reading this piece never thought of any of it as gluttony. The truth is though it is, like most all the sins I can think of exactly that. Dealing with my moves in entertainment, all of them, from a new guitar or microphone to the girls after that mark on their tally sheets, it was all gluttony... on my part and on theirs.
 
Hi Taylor,

Interesting about Adam and Eve wanting more. I never read this and never had the thought. Yes. What more could they have wanted? That which they couldn't have! They wanted it all - and they wanted it now. I think there's a song about this.

Overeating. Why do people overeat?

Ephesians 5:18 Paul exhorts us not to become drunk. Is wine the only thing that could make us drunk? Drunk means we don't have our full faculties, it means we can't think straight, it means we could make a mistake. Many things could make us drunk - even love, when it's distorted. Overeating could fall into this catagory.

And for all the same reasons. We look for satisfaction in the wrong places, we seek to fill up something that's missing, we're unsatisfied in some non-understandable way. So we eat, for all the reasons you state. It tastes good, it satisfies us for the moment. We think about food too much - things of this earth Philippians 4:8 tells us to think of things of on high, things that are praisworthy.

Also, to me it's kind of like smoking or doing drugs. Easy to fall into bad habits. When we don't understand that we ARE the new temple of God and it should be respected as such. Easy to say, but let's at least be aware of it and the Holy Spirit will help us to remember this.

It's good to have material things (is food a material thing?) but they shouldn't be all important. They shouldn't become our god.

Wondering
 
Anything that goes above what we need to sustain us is excess. I would not call it a sin as long as we are helping others as Matthew 25:34-40 instructs so remain pleasing to God, but this is my own opinion.
 
Anything that goes above what we need to sustain us is excess. I would not call it a sin as long as we are helping others as Matthew 25:34-40 instructs so remain pleasing to God, but this is my own opinion.
for his glory
I'm not sure if you're replying to me since my post is just above. Or to Bill Taylor. I guess him since you use the word excess, but since I'm here already, I'll just say that I agree with you. It's not sinful to have things, it's only sinful if they become your god. 1st commandment.

Do you think smoking could be a sin? or being obese? Or is it just a misguided action?
Maybe it depends on a personal word from God to the person?
Would James 4:17 apply?

Wondering
 
for his glory
I'm not sure if you're replying to me since my post is just above. Or to Bill Taylor. I guess him since you use the word excess, but since I'm here already, I'll just say that I agree with you. It's not sinful to have things, it's only sinful if they become your god. 1st commandment.

Do you think smoking could be a sin? or being obese? Or is it just a misguided action?
Maybe it depends on a personal word from God to the person?
Would James 4:17 apply?

Wondering
Hi Wondering I was replying to the OP.

I do not believe smoking, being obese, or even drinking is a sin even though none of it is good for us, but this fleshly body is not what will be taken up to meet Jesus in the air for flesh and blood can not inherit the kingdom of heaven, 1Corinthians 15:50. What God deems sin is very different than what man deems sin to be. As for James 4:17 if God deems something to be a sin and we know according to His word it is wrong then we alone will stand in Gods judgement. If we truly have the Holy Spirit dwelling in us then it is the Holy Spirit that will convict our heart if we are sinning against God.

Never allow others to put you in bondage according to that of what man teaches what sin is, but believe in what God says sin is.
Gal 5:1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.
 
Hi Wondering I was replying to the OP.

I do not believe smoking, being obese, or even drinking is a sin even though none of it is good for us, but this fleshly body is not what will be taken up to meet Jesus in the air for flesh and blood can not inherit the kingdom of heaven, 1Corinthians 15:50. What God deems sin is very different than what man deems sin to be. As for James 4:17 if God deems something to be a sin and we know according to His word it is wrong then we alone will stand in Gods judgement. If we truly have the Holy Spirit dwelling in us then it is the Holy Spirit that will convict our heart if we are sinning against God.

Never allow others to put you in bondage according to that of what man teaches what sin is, but believe in what God says sin is.
Gal 5:1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.
I agree with what you say above (I highlighted).
Sin = Missing the mark. The Holy Spirit will let us know when we do.

It's the same idea as that we'll be responsible only for the light we have been given.

Wondering
 
for his glory
I'm not sure if you're replying to me since my post is just above. Or to Bill Taylor. I guess him since you use the word excess, but since I'm here already, I'll just say that I agree with you. It's not sinful to have things, it's only sinful if they become your god. 1st commandment.

Do you think smoking could be a sin? or being obese? Or is it just a misguided action?
Maybe it depends on a personal word from God to the person?
Would James 4:17 apply?

Wondering
I'm not sure who that post is to either but you are dead on. God has said all things in moderation, 1 Cor 6:12, and it is most often applied to folks that over eat but it says all things znd I take it to mean what it says.
 
The only unforgivable sin to the Most High is unrepentence. Unrepentance is blasphemy of the Spirit and calling the Spirit a liar.

Christ calls the world to repentance, whoever sweeps these words of Christ under a rug and does not repent denies the Spirit of God and is calling the Spirit a liar as they dont care.

The Most High said he would send Christ and you must listen to him.

We live under the Most Highs grace through Repentance and the forgiveness of our sins through the blood of Christ and living on his word as our King.
 
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