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God desires those who are His to know there is nothing we will do that can ever effect change in our acceptance of Him in His Son. He knows our ever-constant primary goal is to “please” Him, and this goal is the most manifesting issue concerning our faith, and sums up all in our fellowship with Him. I say “will do,” not could do, because those who could will to do otherwise have not been under the “work” of His hands (Phl 213). He knows where we will error, but the issue lies not in all that we do, but rather in the fact that it’s never our will to displease Him, for we always will to “please” Him—whether success or failure (though our walk ever progresses “in the Spirit”).
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The Why Of It All

Do you know the Lord Jesus as your Savior? Not only your Savior from the wrath to come, and from Satan and the world (unbelievers, whom has always made up the majority of earth’s populous, hence the term “world”—NC), but from self? Many a one needs to have that driven home. What characterized the Lord Jesus when here? All that Satan could do, he could get nothing out of the Lord. When He was here, He was always master of Himself, and He undertakes to save us from ourselves (our sin-source, the “old man.” It’s been said that the lost need saved and the saved needs delivered, i.e. Holy Spirit “mortification” in our walk—NC). When He presents us to the Father, we shall be in glorious bodies, delivered from humiliation, “made like unto His own glorious body” (Phl 3:21). Then we shall be perfectly and eternally delivered from everything not of Him. Can you say to the Father, I am a poor, simple and foolish thing, but I see that Thou hast said, and written down, that I have been crucified together with Christ? Thou lookest on me, having faith in the love that gave Thy Son; Thou lookest on me as crucified together with Him who was put to open shame.

A second thing comes out—dead together with Him! He “gave Himself a ransom” for us, and the eternal life with which He quicken us is the eternal life which He had “before the world was” (Jhn 17:5). There can be no mistake as to what that quickening is. Dead, buried; ah, do all believers know what it is to reckon themselves buried together with Christ? When I think of the grace of the Lord Jesus, I say there was the end of myself in Adam (1Co 15:48, 49). God put me away on the Cross.

Now as to the power of this practically: if you have got any gospel at all, what is your gospel? Is it the Gospel of eternal life? If so, I expect you to be doers, not hearers only (hearers only are absent of faith, for faith always brings forth the works or “fruit” of the Spirit – Jam 2:18, 20—NC). You cannot have life, and not be a doer. The Father has met everything against me in His Son. What is the grace mark of that given to us here? “Reckon yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin (not to die but manifest in our walk we are dead—NC), but alive unto God.” Do you count yourselves to have died unto sin? Do you know what it is to be in the presence of the Father and in fellowship with Him and His Son? That He is a living Person, whose glory we can have little idea about? The Lord Jesus Christ is the image of the invisible God; and do you and I know what it is to say of everything connected with the first Adam, Thou sayest of me that I have been crucified together with Christ, dead together, buried together, raised and ascended together with Him (ascended with Him in position, and though not yet physically, it is certain as if presently so because it is inevitable—NC)?

If you say that I can reckon myself to be dead indeed unto sin, and alive unto God, I believe. Yes, you say; but do you see that I do not feel it? He never said that you would feel it! Abraham was given certain promises, and God took special care to let everything in nature get the sentence of God against it. You see how faith versus feeling was tried in Abraham. “A father of many nations have I made thee.” I can quite suppose the people around him saying, “Where are all these nations?” You have no child even, only Ishmael, who was not born in thy house. Where are all these nations? What did Abraham say? Just leave all alone. God has committed Himself by promise, and He is able to perform—leave it all alone.

Abraham took the truth of God just as the thing in which he could rest (faith is always about unceasing trust in God for all things—NC), and would rest, and did rest. I do wish to press that side of the truth. The heart having been found in the humiliation of the Lord Jesus that which enables it to look ruin in the face and say, I am not afraid to see the place Adam got me into, not afraid of the flesh or of the world. Why? Because there is my Savior! “Know ye not that as many as were baptized into Jesus Christ, were baptized into His death?” We have been crucified together with Him. There is where the saint gets rest. My Father said it, my Father has written it. We have just a little bit of the blessedness of the humiliation and the glorification of the Lord Jesus, if we have faith in the facts; but the Father knows the fullness of it all, and He will give us perfect blessing in His own time and way.

- G V Wigram (1805 – 1879)
 
God's plan of salvation and our faith which is Christ Jesus is summed up in the below scriptures.

Luke 5:32 I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

James 1:14 What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him? 15 If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food, 16 And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit? 17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone. 18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: show me thy faith without thy works, and I will show thee my faith by my works. 19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. 20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead? 21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar? 22 Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect? 23 And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God. 24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only. 25 Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way? 26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.
 
With me it's the ever-present desire to please Him, which always means the most, which is what He "works in you" (Phl 2:13); and the Spirit's constant confirmation "that we are the children of God" (Rom 8:16).
What if one day you don't feel like pleasing Him anymore?
Can you know THEN if you are really saved?

There must be a more concrete way.
 
What if one day you don't feel like pleasing Him anymore?
Can you know THEN if you are really saved?

There must be a more concrete way.
My reasoning is it took faith to receive salvation so it requires faith to walk in your salvation. Once one is saved it all now is a matter of walking in it as we are taught and led by the Spirit, who is the creator of our rebirth. Thus the one reborn is ever learning to walk in all that he already is in Christ!

Due to the continuance of the indwelling "old man" (sin nature) we will continue to be affected by it, but it's all a part of the lessons of faith in God and His Word, for sin drives the believer ever towards a nearness to God. Faith is 180 degrees from feelings and is how we are mostly caused to exercise faith in His Word.
 
My reasoning is it took faith to receive salvation so it requires faith to walk in your salvation. Once one is saved it all now is a matter of walking in it as we are taught and led by the Spirit, who is the creator of our rebirth. Thus the one reborn is ever learning to walk in all that he already is in Christ!

Due to the continuance of the indwelling "old man" (sin nature) we will continue to be affected by it, but it's all a part of the lessons of faith in God and His Word, for sin drives the believer ever towards a nearness to God. Faith is 180 degrees from feelings and is how we are mostly caused to exercise faith in His Word.
So then the answer is:
If I have faith....
I can know I am saved.

Easy.
 
the Puritans of old would keep 'spiritual autobiographies,' looking for...I think the term was/is 'outward manifestations of grace.'

in the us 1st great awakening (mid-1700s), the emphasis was on the Holy Ghost changing people (genuine conversions). ministers kept tabs on converts, their lives, watched for real change and repentance, etc.

the 2nd great awakening, about 100ish years later...was more about 'making a decision for Christ,' although there were a whole lot of different groups involved (the spiritual fervor of this era also gave us the mormons...and the oneida community....). even now, American Christianity (Protestant, anyway) reflects some of the evangelical techniques developed during this era. true story.

Scripture does encourage us to examine ourselves, to see if we are truly '...in Christ...,' so I think there's something to be said for the Puritan approach (to a point...).
 
How do we know if we are His?

Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. 11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.

If you have confessed and believe in your heart then you are truly Christ own and no one can snatch you out of His hands.

John 10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: 28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. 29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand. 30 I and my Father are one.
 
Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. 11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.

If you have confessed and believe in your heart then you are truly Christ own and no one can snatch you out of His hands.

John 10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: 28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. 29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand. 30 I and my Father are one.
Then why do I still struggle with demonic attacks and feel distant from God?
 
Then why do I still struggle with demonic attacks and feel distant from God?

Sometimes the more one dwells on things that makes them doubt when they seem so real to them is when Satan comes in and plays with our thoughts, especially if there are mental type issues within the brain like Obsessive-compulsive disorder. Satan is the spiritual enemy of God who only wants to steal your faith in Christ.

God sees what's in our hearts and not whats in fleeting thoughts that do befuddle us at times and I feel you do love the Lord and no one can snatch you out of His hands so you don't have to keep saying you are sorry to Jesus for those thoughts as never doubt the love Christ has for you and understands who you are within your handicaps. You are in no way causing your self to blasphemy against the Holy Spirit.

John 10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: 28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. 29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand. 30 I and my Father are one.

All I can say is spend more time with God through prayer and fellowship with Him. You know the enemy and he will never stop trying to steal our faith so as written in Ephesians 6:10-18 put on that full armour of God so you can stand against the enemy and we are always here to help encourage you.
 
Basically this entire website covers what I've been struggling with for years: http://www.net-burst.net/guilty/unforgivable_blasphemy.htm

Obsessive-compulsive disorder with intrusive thoughts, and many other health problems that I don't really feel like disclosing right now. :crying
I see and appreciate your openness and sensitivity! It's my understanding that the primary deliverance for believers is from the source of our sin nature (old man) wherein forgiveness is eternally given during rebirth. Then the secondary deliverance and ongoing work is that concerning our walk, which is seen in gradually being taught in the Word by the Spirit concerning His continued opposition to our indwelling sin nature (Gal 5:17) as we progressively learn to "put off the old man" and more all the time of "putting on the new man."

The works of the old man is much the same as the devil, for our Adamic nature is of the devil (Jhn 8:44); "Not of his substance, but by imitation and example; and as being under his authority and influence, his instructions and directions, and ready to follow after him, and obey his commands" (Gill).

Concerning demonic possession though, it is impossible for one born again to be indwelt by Satan or any of his devils, considering the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, and the absence of scriptural evidence of such. Thus as we "wrestle . . . against spiritual wickedness" from without (Eph 6:12) we oppose with the Spirit the old man (spiritual wickedness from within), so we are not surprised to continue to encounter it attempting to dominate us, which cannot be for one reborn (Rom 6:14).
 
How do I place my faith in God? :oops2

It's all about trusting in God for every situation you face in life that He will see you through everything if you submit yourself to Him.

Hebrews 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

Faith is trusting and waiting on God's perfect timing as we go before Him in prayer for whatever our needs are.
 
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