TRUTH, or ... LIES?

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TRUTH or LIES ......

Matthew 12:35. A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things. 36. But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment. 37. For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.

We are before the Heavenly Court NOW ... not tomorrow! The Great Judgment is NOW .... not some nebulous day in the future!

John 12:31 Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.

Hebrews 12:1. Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us,

No matter what you thought blindly about the Great Judgment and no matter what the churches taught you in their “spin†doctrines .... The Great Judgment has been going on for at least 2000 years according to Jesus, God’s “Faithful and true Witnessâ€Â.

Revelation 3:14 And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;

Look at these Words that proceeded from the lips of both “Judgesâ€Â

They hold men accountable for “every idle Word that men speak†and if it is good to do this thing to men, it is fair to do the same thing to them. Since Father is “numero uno†let us check Him out keeping in mind that the Great Judgment has been in active session for the past 2 days (2000 earthly years).

Words that proceeded from God's lips

Isaiah 57:16. For I will not contend for ever, neither will I be always wroth: for the spirit should fail before me, and the souls which I have made. 17. For the iniquity of his covetousness was I wroth, and smote him: I hid me, and was wroth, and he went on frowardly in the way of his heart. 18. I have seen his ways, and will heal him: I will lead him also, and restore comforts unto him and to his mourners. 19. I create the fruit of the lips; Peace, peace to him that is far off, and to him that is near, saith the Lord; and I will heal him.

Malachi 3:6. For I am the Lord, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed. 17. And they shall be mine, saith the Lord of hosts, in that day when I make up my jewels; and I will spare them, as a man spareth his own son that serveth him.

Jeremiah 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the Lord: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.

Isaiah 43:25 I, even I, am he that blotteth out thy transgressions for mine own sake, and will not remember thy sins. 26 Put me in remembrance: let us plead together: declare thou, that thou mayest be justified. 27 Thy first father hath sinned, and thy teachers have transgressed against me.

Isaiah 48:9 For my name's sake will I defer mine anger, and for my praise will I refrain for thee, that I cut thee not off. 10 Behold, I have refined thee, but not with silver; I have chosen thee in the furnace of affliction. 11 For mine own sake, even for mine own sake, will I do it: for how should my name be polluted? and I will not give my glory unto another. 12 Hearken unto me, O Jacob and Israel, my called; I am he; I am the first, I also am the last.

You must be of ONE MIND with God as ONE BODY and ONE FAMILY. You must forget your demonically influenced earthly thoughts and defective human ways and accept God's greater thoughts and Highest ways. This is His glory for You because You (pronounce it! JHVH - you - ewe) are His (from Him)! Another (who is this "other"? see the Alpha and Omega site's The Robot) will not get His glory. It is for you - get in on it John 17:22 .

For Mine Own Sake

God is forgiving and saving men "for Mine own sake"!! He is not saving men because they go to church or have faith; neither is He doing it because men pay "tithes and offerings" and try to be good! A man's good works has absolutely NOTHING TO DO WITH IT! At your best, you wear "filthy rags" in God's eyes Isaiah 64:6; Zechariah 3:1-3. The Supreme Judge emphasizes this three times so that it be crystal clear - He is forgiving, forgetting, and refraining to cut men off "FOR MINE OWN SAKE"! The kind of life the devil has put you through, whether you are good or bad, is not the determinant! (Sorry, preachers!) Preachers and Christians are on NOTICE! A man's self-righteousness and "good works" does not determine if he will get in or not! Psalm 14:2-3; Romans 3:23. GOD, your Father and the Supreme JUDGE is SPARING, FORGIVING, FORGETTING, and SAVING ALL "FOR MINE OWN SAKE and I will not give my glory to another!" Why should He destroy His own children just because Lucifer and some misguided preachers want Him to do that?! Man was created for His pleasure and crowned with His glory, and He refuses to cut man off ... FOR MINE OWN SAKE, EVEN FOR MINE OWN SAKE, saith the Lord! Isaiah 57:16-19; Malachi 3:6,17.

That is why the Father had Jesus advise us in our conduct to "be like Him" in Matthew 5:43-48.

Matthew 5:43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. 44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; 45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. 46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same? 47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so? 48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

Isaiah 45:19. I have not spoken in secret, in a dark place of the earth: I said not unto the seed of Jacob, Seek ye me in vain: I the Lord speak righteousness, I declare things that are right. 21. Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I the Lord? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me. 22. Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else. 23. I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, that unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear. 24. Surely, shall one say, In the Lord have I righteousness and strength: even to him shall men come; and all that are incensed against him shall be ashamed.

Isaiah 66:21. And I will also take of them for priests and for Levites, saith the Lord. 22. For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the Lord, so shall your seed and your name remain. 23. And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the Lord.

NOW .... judge God by the same measure He that He measures us, by “every idle word that men speakâ€Â! You be the judge! Is God telling the TRUTH or is God LYING?

The Testimony of Jesus Christ DIRECT from his own lips

First let us review God’s PROMISE TO JESUS:

Psalm 2:7. I will declare the decree: the Lord hath said unto me, Thou art my son; this day have I begotten thee. 8. Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession. 9. Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel. 10. Be wise now therefore, O ye kings: be instructed, ye judges of the earth.

Isaiah 49:6. And he said, It is a light thing that thou shouldest be my servant to raise up the tribes of Jacob, and to restore the preserved of Israel: I will also give thee for a light to the Gentiles, that thou mayest be my salvation unto the end of the earth. 7. Thus saith the Lord, the Redeemer of Israel, and his Holy One, to him whom man despiseth, to him whom the nation abhorreth, to a servant of rulers, Kings shall see and arise, princes also shall worship, because of the Lord that is faithful, and the Holy One of Israel, and he shall choose thee. 8. Thus saith the Lord, In an acceptable time have I heard thee, and in a day of salvation have I helped thee: and I will preserve thee, and give thee for a covenant of the people, to establish the earth, to cause to inherit the desolate heritages; 9. That thou mayest say to the prisoners, Go forth; to them that are in darkness, shew yourselves. They shall feed in the ways, and their pastures shall be in all high places. 10. They shall not hunger nor thirst; neither shall the heat nor sun smite them: for he that hath mercy on them shall lead them, even by the springs of water shall he guide them.

Words directly from Jesus lips, his “testimony†in Court

Psalm 40:7. Then said I, Lo, I come: in the volume of the book it is written of me, 8. I delight to do thy will, O my God: yea, thy law is within my heart. 9. I have preached righteousness in the great congregation: lo, I have not refrained my lips, O Lord, thou knowest. 10. I have not hid thy righteousness within my heart; I have declared thy faithfulness and thy salvation: I have not concealed thy lovingkindness and thy truth from the great congregation.

John 6:37. All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out. 44. No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

John 5:28. Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, 29. And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

Hosea 13:14. I will ransom them from the power of the grave; I will redeem them from death: O death, I will be thy plagues; O grave, I will be thy destruction: repentance shall be hid from mine eyes.

John 17:24. Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world. 12. While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled.

John 12:32. And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.

John 10:28. And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. 29. My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.

Now READERS is Jesus telling the TRUTH or is he bearing false witness and lying to us? Are God and Jesus telling us the TRUTH .... or are both of them lying to us? If they are telling the TRUTH, then why am I called a deceiver, a liar, non-Christian, a false prophet, and an “unbeliever†by some LOUD “I SEEâ€Â-ans (Laodiceans) simply because I BELIEVE THEM? Cast your vote! Are these Two Witnesses telling the TRUTH, or both of them lying to all of us in Court while Satan is being judged?

John,
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[evanman]

We are before the Heavenly Court NOW ... not tomorrow! The Great Judgment is NOW .... not some nebulous day in the future!

John 12:31 Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.

You have misunderstood what Jesus was saying.

He was referring to His crucifixion--this would be the judgement of the world.

Just as the building of the ark by Noah was the condemnation of the world!

Heb 11:7 By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith.

 

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The Words of both judges STAND ....

Evanman! I do not need to "spin" them, or proffer my opinion about them. I understand what they are saying. While you attempt to fathom my "personal" understanding, my feelings and opinion are a "NON-ISSUE" here! The TESTIMONY of these two JUDGES is in question. And the question is, "Are they telling the truth or lying to us"? Please cast your vote if you have not done so. Thanks.

John,
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Abraham believed God ....

Abraham believed God .... and it was counted unto him for righteousness!

Romans 4:3 For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness.

NOW .... what about you? Is your faith less than mustard seed size? How do you think God rates YOUR FAITH in Him?

Luke 18:8 ... Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?

The question is, “Do YOU believe God’s TESTIMONY presented here"?

Romans 3:3. For what if some did not believe? shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect? 4. God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.

John,
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[evanman]

I need not attempt to "fathom out anyone's faith"--what I will do is test the spirits to see whether what is being taught is upheld by the Word of God!

Heb 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

Re 20:11 ¶ And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

 

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Judgment of humans or devils?

John 5:22. For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:

Romans 14:4. Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand. 7. For none of us liveth to himself, and no man dieth to himself. 8. For whether we live, we live unto the Lord; and whether we die, we die unto the Lord: whether we live therefore, or die, we are the Lord's. 9. For to this end Christ both died, and rose, and revived, that he might be Lord both of the dead and living. 10. But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.

John 1:29. The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.

John 8:15. Ye judge after the flesh; I judge no man.


Now compare those Words from God with the following. From Jesus' direct testimony LEARN WHO IS JUDGED!

John 16:8. And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: 9. Of sin, because they believe not on me; 10. Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more; 11. Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged.

John 17:12. While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled.

Do not ERR IN JUDGMENT and include humans with Satan's execution as many preachers have done and still do!

Hebrews 2:6. But one in a certain place testified, saying, What is man, that thou art mindful of him? or the son of man, that thou visitest him? 7. Thou madest him a little lower than the angels; thou crownedst him with glory and honour, and didst set him over the works of thy hands: 14. Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil; 15. And deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage.

John 10:28. And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.

John,
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[bibleberean]

More Christians misuse Matthew 7:1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.

An objective reading of Mattew 7 in it's context shows that we are to judge. We just are not supposed to use hypocritical judgement.

Matthew 7:5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

If we are not guilty and practicing the same sin ourselves we can help a brother or sister see the error of their ways.

Jesus the apostle told us to beware of false prophets and teachers.

How can we "know an errant person by their fruits" if we cannot judge at all?

Matthew 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

Matthew 7:16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

We can judge others doctrines and actions by the word of God.

Was John the Baptist out of line when he called the Jews that were coming to be bapized by him a "generation of vipers"?

Luke 3:7 Then said he to the multitude that came forth to be baptized of him, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?

Paul begged us to "mark and avoid" those who promote false doctrine.

That would be tough to do if we cannot judge another.

Romans 16:17 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.

Naming names and passing legitimate judgement is biblical.

2 Timothy 2:16-18 But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness. And their word will eat as doth a canker: of whom is Hymenaeus and Philetus; Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some.

Jesus called Peter "Satan".

Matthew 16:23 But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.

Paul named Peter and withstood him to his face for his hypocrisy.

Galatians 2:11 But when Peter was come to Antioch, I withstood him to the face, because he was to be blamed.

We can and should judge people and doctrine. We need to judge all things by the word of God.

 

[bibleberean]

Here is another misused verse.

Romans 14:10 But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.

Read Romans 14 in context. It is dealing with judging a brother by the type of food he eats what days he considers special or not special

It is not about judgement in general.

Romans 14:1 Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations.

Romans 14:2 For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs.

Romans 14:3 Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not; and let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth: for God hath received him.

Romans 14:5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.

Romans 14:6 He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.

We are supposed to judge as John writes here.

3 John 1:9 I wrote unto the church: but Diotrephes, who loveth to have the preeminence among them, receiveth us not.

3 John 1:10 Wherefore, if I come, I will remember his deeds which he doeth, prating against us with malicious words: and not content therewith, neither doth he himself receive the brethren, and forbiddeth them that would, and casteth them out of the church.

We are not to even eat with brothers who practice sin.

1 Corinthians 5:11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.