Two witnesses

[brujaq]

Enoch, Moses, Abraham and Elijah were not taken up to the third Heaven as some teach as when they were seen (not Enoch or Abraham) of Peter, James and John in Matthew 17:1-9 it was only a transfiguration like a vision that they saw Jesus transfigured as was Moses and Elijah. There is no one in the third heaven except God, Jesus and the angels, John 3:13. Everyone that has ever died is asleep in their grave and when Christ returns they will hear His voice as He calls all of them to come forth, they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation, John 5:28, 29. It is only our spirit/breath/soul that goes back to God who gave it, Genesis 2:7; Ecc 12:7.

Jesus calling John the Baptist Elijah does not mean he was Elijah, but that John would come in the same spirit and power that was given to Elijah by God, 2 Kings 1:1-14, Malachi 4:5, 6; Luke 1:5-17. In Luke 1:21 John said he was not Elijah when they asked of him.

It wasn't Samuel that King Saul raised from the dead, but that of a familiar spirit that rose to deceive him. 1Samuel 28:12-20 this women used a familiar spirit that took on the form of Samuel as this is why the scripture says Samuel spoke. Look closely at vs. 14, Saul ask what form is he of and the women describe the form and Saul stooped with his face to the ground and bowed himself before the form, not actually seeing it, but only perceiving it was Samuel. The familiar spirit only spoke of things that Saul already knew about God being quiet and why He was quiet toward Saul. The familiar spirit never gave Saul an answer of what he should do. Then the familiar spirit proceeded to tell Saul what was about to happen to him and his sons that they would be in the ground from wench the familiar spirit came from.

Matthew 16: 28 Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.

Jesus said there will be, not there are. Be is future tense and are is present tense.

I tend to agree that the spirit conjured by the Witch of Endor was a familiar spirit and not of God ..

 

[brujaq]

I think the transfiguration was the kingdom come that Jesus had said ''some standing there would see''
Luke 9:27-29
27 But I tell you of a truth, there be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the kingdom of God.
28 And it came to pass about an eight days after these sayings, he took Peter and John and James, and went up into a mountain to pray.
29 And as he prayed, the fashion of his countenance was altered, and his raiment was white and glistering.
30 And, behold, there talked with him two men, which were Moses and Elias:

 

[for_his_glory]

I tend to agree that the spirit conjured by the Witch of Endor was a familiar spirit and not of God ..

Exactly, but many will disagree and that is another topic that can become heated as it has in the past.

 

[for_his_glory]

I think the transfiguration was the kingdom come that Jesus had said ''some standing there would see''
Luke 9:27-29
27 But I tell you of a truth, there be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the kingdom of God.
28 And it came to pass about an eight days after these sayings, he took Peter and John and James, and went up into a mountain to pray.
29 And as he prayed, the fashion of his countenance was altered, and his raiment was white and glistering.
30 And, behold, there talked with him two men, which were Moses and Elias:

If you go down to vs. 31 they were speaking about Jesus death in which he had to accomplish. It's like they were showing Jesus what to expect.

These verses below IMO mean that many will still be alive, (both saints and sinners), at Christ coming as they will not see death until He comes down from the heavenly kingdom with power as mentioned in Rev 19.

Matthew 16:28 says shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.

Mark 9:1 says shall not taste death till they have seen the kingdom of God come with power

Luke 9:27 says which shall not taste of death, till they see the kingdom of God.

 

[DiscipleDave]

You are so smart, I mean you totally figured it out... God must have told you man.

A King sends a messenger to a village with a problem in order to tell the village how to fix the problem. The messenger gets there and says "The King told me to tell you to _______________, and that will fix your problem" The people then say to the messenger "You are so smart, I mean you totally figured it out." Is the messenger smart? Did the messenger figure it out? Or did the messenger merely repeat what the King told him? i am not smart, i did not figure it out. i merely teach this generation things that God told me to teach. He is the King, i am but a lowly messenger of what He told me to tell you.

Thanks for the clarification,

Give God the Glory for the clarification, but if you must thank me for something, then thank me that i delivered His message.

I'm kinda crazy but God tells me stuff and He said that there are people witnessing for Him all over the world because He needs just cause before He ends it.

i understand, God chooses whom He chooses. i still to this very day ask "Why did He choose me to reveal His secrets to" i still don't know.

I asked Him once why He talk to me and He say because my understanding of His advice hasn't been corrupted.

Hindsight, When we were having all those conversations, i should have asked Him that, but i didn't.

 

[for_his_glory]

There are no new revelations as they have been written. There are no more Prophets and Apostles as what they have spoken has already been written. Even Jesus never spoke anything that God did not give Him to speak as it is all written. God is not going to give anyone anymore than what has been written. There are no new prophecies or revelations as all have been written. Now it's up to us to take what has already been written out into the world as we teach that which God has already given.

John 12:44 Jesus cried and said, He that believeth on me, believeth not on me, but on him that sent me. 45 And he that seeth me seeth him that sent me. 46 I am come a light into the world, that whosoever believeth on me should not abide in darkness. 47 And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world. 48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day. 49 For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak. 50 And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.

 

[DiscipleDave]

The two witnesses are the word of God and the Holy Spirit that confirms His word. The two witnesses are symbolic of Christ who spoke Gods word, John 12:49, as he laid dead for three an a half days until God raised Him up.

So you don't believe the Word of God? Revelation Chapter 11 was written AFTER Jesus Christ walked the Earth. People believe what the Word of God plainly teaches. Revelation Chapter 11 is specifically referring to those two witnesses, they are NOT symbolic. Don't believe any human who tells you otherwise, believe the Word of God and what they plainly teach.

Zechariah 4:11-14 explains what who these two witness are as being the word and the Holy Spirit

Zech 4:11-14 in no way whatsoever negates the actual two prophets showing up in Jerusalem during the last days. Know you not that they two prophets are alive to this very day, even as they were alive 2,000 years ago, even as they were alive from the time of Adam? Know you not that they are already anointed. Zech 4:11-14 does not in any what whatsoever teach or indicates that they are not actual prophets that are going to show up in the last days. The two prophets that show up in the last days are humans, but the spirit that is in them, are the anointed ones. INterpretations belong to God NOT to men. Those who teach that the two prophets are symbolic have altogether used their own interpretations of the Bible to come up with that false doctrine. Scriptures does NOT indicate or teach they are symbolic, but Scriptures are plain that they are actual two men, who, when they die the whole world celebrates. When Jesus died, the WHOLE WORLD did NOT celebrate.

Rev 11:3, 4 confirms that of Zechariah 4:11-14.

Sorry, but it is YOUR interpretation that you THINK confirms that. Scriptures does not teach that, YOU DO.

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[DiscipleDave]

http://biblehub.com/kjv/revelation/11-8.htm

And thier dead bodies are going to lay i the street of Jerusalem for three days.People looking down on them and not suffering thier dead bodies to be buried.
And you believe that describes the holy spirit?

Why can't people merely believe the Word of God, instead of believing interpretations of men?

 

[DiscipleDave]

Rev 11:3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth. 4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.

Zechariah 4:11 Then answered I, and said unto him, What are these two olive trees upon the right side of the candlestick and upon the left side thereof? 12 And I answered again, and said unto him, What be these two olive branches which through the two golden pipes empty the golden oil out of themselves? 13 And he answered me and said, Knowest thou not what these be? And I said, No, my lord. 14 Then said he, These are the two anointed ones, that stand by the Lord of the whole earth.

The two anointed ones have always been Gods anointed word and the Holy Spirit. Rev 11 is symbolic in what is being said.

YOU teach they are symbolic, that is NOT what Scriptures teach. Believe Scriptures not what people teach. There are many who are anointed of God, NOT just two. King David was referred to as the LORD'S Anointed. All the priests of the Temple were anointed of God. The Apostles were anointed. Prophets were anointed.

Zec 4:14 Then said he, These are the two anointed ones, that stand by the Lord of the whole earth.

This prophecy will be fulfilled, AFTER the two witnesses are in Jerusalem and the whole world hates them, and they are killed and lay dead for 3 days, then WHO raises them? The Lord Jesus does, the Day He returns to the Earth to start His reign at the 7th Trumpet sounding. When Jesus gets here to the Earth, He raises the two men from death and they will stand by the Lord of the whole Earth on that DAY. Believe Scriptures, NOT what men teach.

 

[DiscipleDave]

Shilohsfoal, you just do not see the symbolism of how others have always tried to silent the word of God and that of Jesus being dead for 3 days and then God raised Him from the dead. I can not make you see this in Rev 11 as only the Holy Spirit can reveal it to us.

i am with Shilohsfoal on this one, You are taking a a couple of verses and interpreting them, but altogether ingnoring all the other verses. Shilohsfoal has asked you about other verses concerning the two witness, and how they are symbolic, to which you do not give any reply whatsoever.

If you are going to teach the doctrine that the two witnesses are symbolic, than should you not be prepared to explain HOW ALL verses concerning the two prophets are symbolic? Or do you believe a few verses while ignoring all other verses concerning the two Prophets.

If you teach the two Prophets are symbolic, then surely you can now explain verse by verse Revelation 11 verses 1 through 14. IF you can't, then you should NOT be teaching things that you do not fully understand. If you think they are symbolic, then reveal to everyone HOW they are symbolic. You teach the two witnesses are 1) The Word of God and 2) the Holy Spirit. So then explain all the other verses and how they are symbolic. Rev 11:8 and 9 plainly teach the two witness DIE, and their dead bodies lie in the street and nobody even buries them. HOW does that fit into YOUR interpretations that the two witnesses are the Word of God and the Holy Ghost. IF that were TRUE, then according to the Scriptures, the Word of God dies and the Holy Spirit DIES, for three days and the people don't bury them. Tell me how do you bury the bodies of the Word of God and the body of the Holy Spirit, which is well known to be a SPIRIT and not a body at all. So why can't you explain all the other verses concerning the two witnesses? i can logically conclude that you can't or won't because they do not line up with YOUR interpretations of who YOU THINK the two witnesses are.

You would do well to remember and understand the Word of God that God told me "If what you believe contradicts even ONE verse in Scriptures, then what you believe is WRONG" You believing that the two witnesses described in Rev 11 is the Word of God and the Holy Spirit, most assuredly contradicts several other verses in the Word of God. Therefore that belief can't be correct. So change your belief to line up with Scriptures and do NOT change Scriptures to line up with your belief.

 

[DiscipleDave]

What i dont know is what countries president will have its millitary occupying Jerusalem along with the US.

Jerusalem will stand alone. During Zechariah 14 days. This is because they harbor the two witnesses and all Nations of the world come against Jerusalem. But because Jerusalem stands alone, is the reason Jesus shows up to help them, and a remnant of them shall be Saved.

 

[DiscipleDave]

That website has nothing to do with Armageddon and if you weren't so cynical you would see that it is actually agreeing with you who fights against Israel as being all Islamic nations in the end times. Even I believe that.

ALL NATIONS come against Jerusalem during right prior to the Day of the Lord.

 

[DiscipleDave]

Sorry.The US does not turn against the israrl goverment in scripture.Quite the opposite.Trump helps the Israeli goverment but is unable to save it.
As i said.What i dont undersand is who the other is.

Who told you there is another? What verse teaches they do not stand alone? Trust me no country is going to stand with Jerusalem, when the WHOLE World is AGAINST Jerusalem. Know you not about politics. Anyone who stands with Jerusalem the World will consider to be an outcast. Tell me Will US President stand with Jerusalem and the whole world ATTACKS American Citizens worldwide. Or will US President side with all the Nations of the World as to not be in conflict with ALL Nations of the World. Jerusalem will stand alone. That is why ONLY Jesus can help them.

 

[for_his_glory]

So you don't believe the Word of God? Revelation Chapter 11 was written AFTER Jesus Christ walked the Earth. People believe what the Word of God plainly teaches. Revelation Chapter 11 is specifically referring to those two witnesses, they are NOT symbolic. Don't believe any human who tells you otherwise, believe the Word of God and what they plainly teach.



Zech 4:11-14 in no way whatsoever negates the actual two prophets showing up in Jerusalem during the last days. Know you not that they two prophets are alive to this very day, even as they were alive 2,000 years ago, even as they were alive from the time of Adam? Know you not that they are already anointed. Zech 4:11-14 does not in any what whatsoever teach or indicates that they are not actual prophets that are going to show up in the last days. The two prophets that show up in the last days are humans, but the spirit that is in them, are the anointed ones. INterpretations belong to God NOT to men. Those who teach that the two prophets are symbolic have altogether used their own interpretations of the Bible to come up with that false doctrine. Scriptures does NOT indicate or teach they are symbolic, but Scriptures are plain that they are actual two men, who, when they die the whole world celebrates. When Jesus died, the WHOLE WORLD did NOT celebrate.



Sorry, but it is YOUR interpretation that you THINK confirms that. Scriptures does not teach that, YOU DO.

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††† In His Holy and Precious Name, Jesus Christ †††

DiscipleDave (.com)

Please do not tell another they do not believe the word of God. That is very rude. We might not always agree with each other and that does not make either one of us right or wrong, but that of what we believe to be truth by how we study.

My teachings do not come by any man or man's commentaries, but straight from scripture as I compare scripture with scripture and OT with NT as the Holy Spirit guides me

Zechariah 4:11 Then answered I, and said unto him, What are these two olive trees upon the right side of the candlestick and upon the left side thereof? 12 And I answered again, and said unto him, What be these two olive branches which through the two golden pipes empty the golden oil out of themselves? 13 And he answered me and said, Knowest thou not what these be? And I said, No, my lord. 14 Then said he, These are the two anointed ones, that stand by the Lord of the whole earth.

Revelation 11:3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth. 4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.

John is given the understanding that the two witnesses are in comparison to the two candlesticks and two olive trees, which if you read Zechariah Chapter 4 it explains that the golden candlestick is God. The seven lamps with the seven pipes that holds the oil (anointing) is that of the seven Spirits of God given to His Church: wisdom, understanding, counsel, knowledge, reverence, might and Spirit of the Lord, Isaiah 11:2.

The two olive trees are to groups of people. One group being natural Israel (Old Testament) as a remnant according to the election of grace have been saved as in the 144,000 taken from the twelve tribes of Israel that remained faithful to God up to a thousand generations thereafter that remain faithful, 1 Chronicles 16:13-17. The other being Gentiles (New Testament) grafted into the branch by that same grace of God that have been washed in the blood of the Lamb and sealed by His Holy Spirit, John 3:3-7; Romans 10:9, 10; 2 Corinthians 1:22; Romans Chapter 11. The two witnesses have always been those who of faith have stood by God and His law in the Old Testament and those of faith who stand by God and Jesus under the dispensation of grace in the New Testament.

The Disciples were sent out to preach to the lost sheep of Israel, Matthew 10:5, 6 and Paul to the Gentiles, Acts 22:21, and so the same with these two witnesses throughout the generations as being two groups, one taking the Gospel to the lost sheep of Israel and the other group taking the Gospel to the Gentiles until Christ returns. They will be persecuted to death as Jesus was and all the martyr's before them and their bodies will lay in the street for three and a half days and then the Spirit of life from God will enter them and they will be caught up to heaven in a cloud, 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18. This will all occur during the seventh trumpet sounding as I believe all events during this time will happen quickly like 1 Corinthians 15:52 says in a twinkling of an eye we will all be changed and then caught up to Jesus during the seventh trumpet call.

 

[DiscipleDave]

There are no new revelations as they have been written. There are no more Prophets and Apostles as what they have spoken has already been written. Even Jesus never spoke anything that God did not give Him to speak as it is all written. God is not going to give anyone anymore than what has been written. There are no new prophecies or revelations as all have been written. Now it's up to us to take what has already been written out into the world as we teach that which God has already given.

lol, what Scriptures teaches that hogwash? i guess all those conversations that i have had with God who told me what is going to happen in the future, and NOTHING He told me was contrary to any Scriptures, and He told me more than a lot to "Love One Another" must be satan huh? What then satan teaches to STOP SINNING. satan teaches to LOVE ONE ANOTHER? Does satan teach Obey the Word of God? So When God told me that one day the antichrist will be on TV during a time of great distress on the Earth, and say "Where is your God now" Which this causes all faiths of the world to fall away from their belief in a God. That must not be True because that is not written in the Bible. lol. you do not understand how God works. God is the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow, He has always revealed His secrets to the prophets. No wander you hold on to your own doctrines and don't believe what i tell you is from God, you don't believe God reveals things to people or talks to them any more. YOU do error, and because you believe as you do, HE will not speak to you. Because you must first believe that He will before He does.

Know you not that it is written:

Joh_21:25 And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen.

What is written in our Bible today is for us to GET SAVED, only relevant things for one to get SAVED is mentioned and taught in the Word of God, there are MANY Things that are not mentioned because they are not Salvation issues. Scriptures also mentions things that is going to come to pass, to prepare us Christians for them, so we are not caught unaware when we see them come to pass.

i have spoke with God in many different conversations, i have had dreams from God, and visions from God, and have spoken with two Angels of God, during times that i needed to be guided to the right path. i do all things to please Jesus Christ and do not obey satan at all. i live as if God told me "Go and sin no more" like He instructed a man and a woman to go and sin no more. Even as the Word of God instructs us to STOP SINNING. Awake to righteousness and Sin not, Shall we continue in sin? God forbid. Those who sin are children of the devil. And many more such verses the Word of God teaches us Christians. But who is going to find that narrow and difficult road that leads to life everlasting?

lol. no prophets, satan is very good at what he does. he knows full well the two prophets are coming, so what does he do, creates doctrines which teach "There are no prophets" no wander the whole world attacks them and wants them dead, because the whole world believes the false doctrine "There are no prophets" Woe to this wicked generation who does not believe the Word of God. There will be much weeping and gnashing of teeth, when all those who think they are going to Heaven, are left behind. Those who Love One Another, will be accepted with Him, Anyone who continues to fail to Love One Another, will be left behind, NO MATTER what they claim with their mouths.

John 12:44 Jesus cried and said, He that believeth on me, believeth not on me, but on him that sent me. 45 And he that seeth me seeth him that sent me. 46 I am come a light into the world, that whosoever believeth on me should not abide in darkness. 47 And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world. 48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day. 49 For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak. 50 And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.

And what are His Commandments?

Jn 3:22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight. And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment. And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.

So His Commandments are to 1) believe on Jesus Christ and 2) Love One Another. Woe to this generation who think they are True Christians yet do NOT Love One Another, they altogether FAIL to obey His Commandments.

Who receives the Holy Ghost?

Act_5:32 And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him.

Woe to those who do not Love One Another.

Who receives Eternal Salvation:

Heb_5:9 And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;

Woe to them that do not Love One Another, as HE COMMANDED us to do. Woe to this generation who wakes up in the morning and thinks "What can I do for me today?" and does NOT wake up and think "What can I do for others today?" Woe to this wicked selfish generation.

i am not called as a prophet to condemn anyone, i am called to warn this wicked generation about living in sin, what is to come shortly, and to start Loving One Another before it is to late to do so.

Are you helping the needy?
Are you feeding the hungry?
Are you clothing the naked?
Are you giving to charities?
Are you generous with your money?
Are you a giving person?
When you are tempted to commit sin, are you obeying Jesus or His enemy?
Are you Loving your enemies?
Are you forgiving those who trespass against you?
Are you praying for others, or only for those that you Love?
What? NONE of those things you are doing, and you think you are right with God?

Repent of your wicked doings, resist the devil - NOT OBEY HIM. Cease from the sin that so easily besets you - NOT continue to do them.

And don't believe any person, even me, if they teach something that is contrary to the Word of God, do not listen to them, they believe false doctrines and are devoid of the TRUTH of God. If i teach anything at all that is contrary to the Word of God then reveal that verse.

no prophets!! no wonder they will kill the Two Prophets that God will send into the world, the world don't believe they are prophets. sad.

 

[DiscipleDave]

Please do not tell another they do not believe the word of God. That is very rude.

i write whatever the Holy Spirit of God puts on my heart to write. Is there not enough people sugar coating Truths. i am like that of the John the Baptist, saying to the King "You should not have her as your wife, while your brother yet lives" Jesus called those religious people vipers, and whited walls. Did He not call them Hypocrites. if what i write is not True, then reveal that. But if what i say is True, then should you not listen to it?

We might not always agree with each other and that does not make either one of us right or wrong, but that of what we believe to be truth by how we study.

What i teach that comes from me, is but dung. But what i teach that He told me, is Always RIGHT, He is God and what He told me is TRUE, and there is no error in what He told me. We should all study the Word, i have personally read the entire Bible front to back over 80 times in my life, and continue to listen to it 8 hours a day at work. We all should study the Word of God, what we should NOT do, is interpret it. Woe to this generation who takes thought that they can interpret the Word of God, as if they had the authority to do so. God interprets His Word, and God will reveal to who God chooses to reveal His Word to. But woe to that person who takes it upon themself to interpret the Word of God. For they fail miserably to understand Scriptures that teach, interpretations belong to God, not to men.

My teachings do not come by any man or man's commentaries, but straight from scripture as I compare scripture with scripture and OT with NT as the Holy Spirit guides me

Any teaching that contradicts even one verse in Scriptures is a false teaching. What you teach contradicts the Word of God. If the Holy Spirit were indeed guiding you, then you would know that what i teach is from Him. The Holy Ghost is given to those who obey Him (Acts 5:32) So do you obey Him or do you obey satan and continue to sin?

Zechariah 4:11 Then answered I, and said unto him, What are these two olive trees upon the right side of the candlestick and upon the left side thereof? 12 And I answered again, and said unto him, What be these two olive branches which through the two golden pipes empty the golden oil out of themselves? 13 And he answered me and said, Knowest thou not what these be? And I said, No, my lord. 14 Then said he, These are the two anointed ones, that stand by the Lord of the whole earth.

Revelation 11:3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth. 4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.

How many times do you mention the same verses to back up YOUR interpretations, all the while ignoring all the other verses which speak of the two witnesses. Please explain all the symbolic meaning of Rev 11 all the verses. Or do you pick and choose which verses you will believe and which ones you discard? Waiting to hear the symbolic meanings of ALL the verses in Rev 11, we shall see if you even attempt it.

John is given the understanding that the two witnesses are in comparison to the two candlesticks and two olive trees, which if you read Zechariah Chapter 4 it explains that the golden candlestick is God. The seven lamps with the seven pipes that holds the oil (anointing) is that of the seven Spirits of God given to His Church: wisdom, understanding, counsel, knowledge, reverence, might and Spirit of the Lord, Isaiah 11:2.

And what you are not understanding is the two witnesses have always existed. i 100% believe what you are saying above is TRUE, however that does not change that the two witness that will become human prophets in Jerusalem, will be. YOUR interpretations are incorrect and do not line up with Scriptures. You teach the two witnesses are the Word of God and the Holy Ghost. Scriptures plainly and clearly teaches they are men, if people try to kill them they will die, they prophesy, they will die. These things DO NOT line up with YOUR intepretation that the two witness are the Word of God and the Holy Ghost, therefore will you change your belief to line up with the Word of God, or continue to disbelieve What God told me? Do you think you are disagreeing with me personally? i have not told you anything that is from me. But have told you things that God told me, which NONE of it is contrary to any Scriptures at all.

 

[for_his_glory]

i write whatever the Holy Spirit of God puts on my heart to write. Is there not enough people sugar coating Truths. i am like that of the John the Baptist, saying to the King "You should not have her as your wife, while your brother yet lives" Jesus called those religious people vipers, and whited walls. Did He not call them Hypocrites. if what i write is not True, then reveal that. But if what i say is True, then should you not listen to it?



What i teach that comes from me, is but dung. But what i teach that He told me, is Always RIGHT, He is God and what He told me is TRUE, and there is no error in what He told me. We should all study the Word, i have personally read the entire Bible front to back over 80 times in my life, and continue to listen to it 8 hours a day at work. We all should study the Word of God, what we should NOT do, is interpret it. Woe to this generation who takes thought that they can interpret the Word of God, as if they had the authority to do so. God interprets His Word, and God will reveal to who God chooses to reveal His Word to. But woe to that person who takes it upon themself to interpret the Word of God. For they fail miserably to understand Scriptures that teach, interpretations belong to God, not to men.



Any teaching that contradicts even one verse in Scriptures is a false teaching. What you teach contradicts the Word of God. If the Holy Spirit were indeed guiding you, then you would know that what i teach is from Him. The Holy Ghost is given to those who obey Him (Acts 5:32) So do you obey Him or do you obey satan and continue to sin?



How many times do you mention the same verses to back up YOUR interpretations, all the while ignoring all the other verses which speak of the two witnesses. Please explain all the symbolic meaning of Rev 11 all the verses. Or do you pick and choose which verses you will believe and which ones you discard? Waiting to hear the symbolic meanings of ALL the verses in Rev 11, we shall see if you even attempt it.



And what you are not understanding is the two witnesses have always existed. i 100% believe what you are saying above is TRUE, however that does not change that the two witness that will become human prophets in Jerusalem, will be. YOUR interpretations are incorrect and do not line up with Scriptures. You teach the two witnesses are the Word of God and the Holy Ghost. Scriptures plainly and clearly teaches they are men, if people try to kill them they will die, they prophesy, they will die. These things DO NOT line up with YOUR intepretation that the two witness are the Word of God and the Holy Ghost, therefore will you change your belief to line up with the Word of God, or continue to disbelieve What God told me? Do you think you are disagreeing with me personally? i have not told you anything that is from me. But have told you things that God told me, which NONE of it is contrary to any Scriptures at all.

Please go back to post #9 as the two witnesses have always been the word of God (Jesus) and the Holy Spirit that confirms it. It is those men who are anointed in the end of days that have these two witnesses within them as they continue to take the Godpel out into the world.

So you claim to be a prophet of private interpretation that God only gives to you that is not written in the Bible.............WOW!!! That throws up a red flag to me as no prophecy is of private interpretation as all has been written and now given to us to understand as the Holy Spirit in whom indwells us who are of faith in Christ teaches us all things of Gods spoken then written words, John 14:26. Even Jesus never spoke anything above that which God did not give Him to speak nor does the Holy Spirit and nor should we as a faithful servant, John 12:49. It is already written for all to understand as we search the scriptures comparing scripture with scripture and OT with NT and there is no private interpretations or any Prophets with a new message today. God is the same yesterday, today and forever and His word stands the same as when He gave it to the Prophets and Apostles unto the end of time. I've already given in post #9 of who I believe the two witnesses are in Rev 11.

2 Peter 1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. 21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

 

[Butch5]

http://biblehub.com/revelation/11-5.htm

Two horns=two kings.

Ive heard many people say the two witnesses were Moses and elijah but this is something that has always escaped me.I would just say i dont know who it is.
I have understood for along time that a military comprised of gentiles will occupy Jerusalem during Trumps adminstrstion.And i understand fire proceeds out of thier mouth to devour thier enemies .
But whos the other king?
Whos is the other military and which country is it from?Russia?

Putin is as involved with the Russian orthodox church asTrump is with evangelicals.
Whos millitaries "of the gentiles"shall tread Jerusalem under foot for 42 months?
US and Russia?

I believe the two witnesses will be Elijah and the apostle John. Jesus told John that he would prophesy before kings.

10 Then I took the little book out of the angel's hand and ate it, and it was as sweet as honey in my mouth. But when I had eaten it, my stomach became bitter.
11 And he said to me, "You must prophesy again about many peoples, nations, tongues, and kings." (Rev. 10:10-11 NKJ)

 

[for_his_glory]

I believe the two witnesses will be Elijah and the apostle John. Jesus told John that he would prophesy before kings.

10 Then I took the little book out of the angel's hand and ate it, and it was as sweet as honey in my mouth. But when I had eaten it, my stomach became bitter.
11 And he said to me, "You must prophesy again about many peoples, nations, tongues, and kings." (Rev. 10:10-11 NKJ)

Reread vs. 11 again as it says John will give prophecy about many peoples, nations, tongues and kings. It doesn't say he will prophesy before kings, but about them.

Unless God raises Elijah and John from their graves these two are not the two witnesses. Elijah was only taken up to the first heaven being the atmosphere as God translated him to another place that no one knew where.

2Ki 2:11 And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven. (Heaven here means atmosphere)

Elijah, having ascended into the air by a whirlwind was carried away out of sight beyond the horizon. Several years after he was taken away King Jehoram received a letter from him. 2Chron 21:12. Now the wickedness of Jehoram, for which he was being rebuked in the letter, took place after Elijah was taken away, yet the letter speaks of these things as past events, and the punishment to come upon him as yet future. So the idea of some, that Elijah wrote the letter before he was removed by the whirlwind, is proved wrong.

 

[Butch5]

Reread vs. 11 again as it says John will give prophecy about many peoples, nations, tongues and kings. It doesn't say he will prophesy before kings, but about them.

Unless God raises Elijah and John from their graves these two are not the two witnesses. Elijah was only taken up to the first heaven being the atmosphere as God translated him to another place that no one knew where.

2Ki 2:11 And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven. (Heaven here means atmosphere)

Elijah, having ascended into the air by a whirlwind was carried away out of sight beyond the horizon. Several years after he was taken away King Jehoram received a letter from him. 2Chron 21:12. Now the wickedness of Jehoram, for which he was being rebuked in the letter, took place after Elijah was taken away, yet the letter speaks of these things as past events, and the punishment to come upon him as yet future. So the idea of some, that Elijah wrote the letter before he was removed by the whirlwind, is proved wrong.

You may want to reread it. John was told he must prophesy "again". I'm not sure what you point is about Elijah. God said He would send Elijah before the coming of the Lord.