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This is taken from John Daniel's book "The Grand Design Exposed" granddesignexposed.com

TWO OCCULT POWERS UNITED FOR FINAL WORLD CONTROL
THE BEAST (Rome) and HIS IMAGE (U.S.A.)
In Scripture, Rev.13:1-18, two world powers are described. The first, which received worship and ruled brutally for over a thousand years, but then lost her temporal power to Protestantism, is fittingly named in Scripture, the “Beast”. It is the world’s greatest hidden Occult influence of Rome.

The second power described as the “Image” to the beast, is the U.S.A. As a daughter is the splitting image of her mother (harlot), so the U.S.A. was quietly founded in the ‘Image’
of Rome and its Occultism by Jesuits and Freemasons. The long range purpose was a ‘grand design’ to once again bring the world under the control and tyranny of the Occult Sun system of Rome, through what we know today as the NEW WORLD ORDER.

Revelation 13:15 - And he (USA) had power (Influence Legislation) to give life (Establish former persecution) unto the image to the beast, (USA Church and State) that the image to the beast (Protestant USA Church and State) should both speak, (Legislation) and cause that as many as would not worship the image (Protestant church and state system with enforced worship in America) should be killed. This predicts a dramatic change in America. Persecution of God’s people for refusing to go along with forced laws of worship. Revelation 17 unites with 10 kings to make war on Gods chosen people.

Revelation 13:16 - And he (USA Church and State power) causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark (mark of Beast, or mark of Rome’s power in their right hand, or foreheads: (Note: God also puts a seal in His people's forehead but its not visible, Revelation 14:1).

Revelation 13:17 - And that no man might buy or sell, (USA boycott all refusing to worship the national and world church and state system) save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name being 666.

Revelation 13:18 - Here is wisdom, let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: (Rome's Power) for it is the number of a man and his number is six hundred threescore and six: 666.

So let’s consider again, as the angel of God says unto John, “And there are seven kings (or kingdoms); five are fallen, and “one is”, and the other is not yet come; (even today, it still has not yet come) and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.” (a literal 42 months or 1260 literal days) “And the beast “that was”, and “is not”, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.” (Revelation 17:10&11)

I will also add this to what John Daniel's has written. Every nation will come under the dictaorship when the son of perdition takes his seat on the very ground where once housed the Temple of God in Jerusalem who indwelled it, but no longer dwells in Temples made by hand, 2 Thessalonians 2:3-12; Acts 7:48, 49; 17:24.
 
FHG, just so I understand what you're saying:

you agree with what John Daniels says, and that's also what the video in the OP is about?

If so, I consider that good news. I'd never be fooled by such a scheme. I might not even need to die a gruesome death under such a scheme (I don't think I'd be very good at going down quietly; I'm afraid Sampson would be more my style)

That might be part of God's protection of His people through the great tribulation?
 
FHG, just so I understand what you're saying:

you agree with what John Daniels says, and that's also what the video in the OP is about?

If so, I consider that good news. I'd never be fooled by such a scheme. I might not even need to die a gruesome death under such a scheme (I don't think I'd be very good at going down quietly; I'm afraid Sampson would be more my style)

That might be part of God's protection of His people through the great tribulation?

I never watched the video as I'm still on good old dial up and it takes so long to download them. I have watched a little of Baxter and some things I agree with and some things I do not.

I agree with John Daniel's writings and we use to correspond many years ago. He opened my eyes and caused me to dig deeper into the Luciferian Sun Worship, the real Illuminati, Baal worship, Jesuits and many other organizations all being those things that began in Babylon and will be exposed in the end of days. Many scoff, but I take these things very seriously. There are so many things I could expose, but the ToS prevents me from this. You can go to his website as there is so much there to study and learn more about him. granddesignexposed.com
 
Hmm. Abraham was called to get away from there - Ur of the Caldees ...

I've personally known people that were affected by Freemasonry. Have you ever seen the movie Eyes Wide Shut?
 
Nope.
Not buying it.
This is about selling books and filling offering baskets at "end times seminars."

The MOST IMPORTANT things that Jesus said about His return is: when the Son of Man comes, will He really find faith on the earth? (Luk 18:8b)
and
Who then is that faithful and wise steward, whom his master will make ruler over his household,... Blessed is that servant whom his master will find so doing when he comes.
(Luk 12:42-43)

The important thing is to be serving the Lord by doing what the Lord has given you to do.
Finding the United States in the Bible is just hype to make money.
It's useless information that won't make any difference whatsoever for salvation.

Keep your eyes on the prize and don't be distracted by every wind of doctrine no matter who is preaching.
 
baxter is way out there on his teachings .he comes on everyday on our local Gospel station i listen to it long enough to cringe and change the station.i steer away from end time ministries
 
The important thing is to be serving the Lord by doing what the Lord has given you to do.
Finding the United States in the Bible is just hype to make money.
It's useless information that won't make any difference whatsoever for salvation.

Keep your eyes on the prize and don't be distracted by every wind of doctrine no matter who is preaching.
very good :goodpost:agreed
 
baxter is way out there on his teachings .he comes on everyday on our local Gospel station i listen to it long enough to cringe and change the station.i steer away from end time ministries
they can get way out there and I haven't seen one that hasn't went astray. they start off okay .
 
Nope.
Not buying it.
This is about selling books and filling offering baskets at "end times seminars."

The MOST IMPORTANT things that Jesus said about His return is: when the Son of Man comes, will He really find faith on the earth? (Luk 18:8b)
and
Who then is that faithful and wise steward, whom his master will make ruler over his household,... Blessed is that servant whom his master will find so doing when he comes.
(Luk 12:42-43)

The important thing is to be serving the Lord by doing what the Lord has given you to do.
Finding the United States in the Bible is just hype to make money.
It's useless information that won't make any difference whatsoever for salvation.

Keep your eyes on the prize and don't be distracted by every wind of doctrine no matter who is preaching.

I agree with you on The MOST IMPORTANT things. However I do find a lot of good info from Irvin Baxter & others even if I do not agree with all of their theology. I believe the USA is in the Bible.
 
This is taken from John Daniel's book "The Grand Design Exposed" granddesignexposed.com

TWO OCCULT POWERS UNITED FOR FINAL WORLD CONTROL
THE BEAST (Rome) and HIS IMAGE (U.S.A.)
In Scripture, Rev.13:1-18, two world powers are described. The first, which received worship and ruled brutally for over a thousand years, but then lost her temporal power to Protestantism, is fittingly named in Scripture, the “Beast”. It is the world’s greatest hidden Occult influence of Rome.

The second power described as the “Image” to the beast, is the U.S.A. As a daughter is the splitting image of her mother (harlot), so the U.S.A. was quietly founded in the ‘Image’
of Rome and its Occultism by Jesuits and Freemasons. The long range purpose was a ‘grand design’ to once again bring the world under the control and tyranny of the Occult Sun system of Rome, through what we know today as the NEW WORLD ORDER.

Revelation 13:15 - And he (USA) had power (Influence Legislation) to give life (Establish former persecution) unto the image to the beast, (USA Church and State) that the image to the beast (Protestant USA Church and State) should both speak, (Legislation) and cause that as many as would not worship the image (Protestant church and state system with enforced worship in America) should be killed. This predicts a dramatic change in America. Persecution of God’s people for refusing to go along with forced laws of worship. Revelation 17 unites with 10 kings to make war on Gods chosen people.

Revelation 13:16 - And he (USA Church and State power) causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark (mark of Beast, or mark of Rome’s power in their right hand, or foreheads: (Note: God also puts a seal in His people's forehead but its not visible, Revelation 14:1).

Revelation 13:17 - And that no man might buy or sell, (USA boycott all refusing to worship the national and world church and state system) save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name being 666.

Revelation 13:18 - Here is wisdom, let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: (Rome's Power) for it is the number of a man and his number is six hundred threescore and six: 666.

So let’s consider again, as the angel of God says unto John, “And there are seven kings (or kingdoms); five are fallen, and “one is”, and the other is not yet come; (even today, it still has not yet come) and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.” (a literal 42 months or 1260 literal days) “And the beast “that was”, and “is not”, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.” (Revelation 17:10&11)

I will also add this to what John Daniel's has written. Every nation will come under the dictaorship when the son of perdition takes his seat on the very ground where once housed the Temple of God in Jerusalem who indwelled it, but no longer dwells in Temples made by hand, 2 Thessalonians 2:3-12; Acts 7:48, 49; 17:24.

I like to hear other points of view even if I do not totally agree with them and as the time gets closer the right one will be seen.
 
I agree with you on The MOST IMPORTANT things. However I do find a lot of good info from Irvin Baxter & others even if I do not agree with all of their theology. I believe the USA is in the Bible.
It may be.
BUt I woun't be buying any of his books or dvds.
 
That would be sufficient cause for me to change the channel and pass up every future opportunity to listen to him.

iakov the fool
he comes on local gospel station on the radio .i listen to talk show host hannity for entertainment at that time just about as bad baxter in oneness
 
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