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There is a confusion of the role of the law in the life of a Christian. The law is the revelation of right and wrong behavior. Breaking the law causes harm. Keeping the law is the minimum standard of acceptable conduct, not the definition of righteousness in God's sight. Jesus explained this in a short parable in Luke 17:7-10.

Luke 17:7-10 "Suppose one of you had a servant plowing or looking after the sheep. Would he say to the servant when he comes in from the field, 'Come along now and sit down to eat'? Would he not rather say, 'Prepare my supper, get yourself ready and wait on me while I eat and drink; after that you may eat and drink'? Would he thank the servant because he did what he was told to do? So you also, when you have done everything you were told to do, should say, 'We are unworthy servants; we have only done our duty.'"


The keeping of the law perfectly gains you no points with God. The law cannot lift you to excellence. It can only tell you what you have done wrong.



http://www.rondart.com/Galatians/gal2.htm
 
I'm somewhat confused at what you're getting at. What do you mean that keeping the law gets you no points with God? Are you saying that you only get punishment for not doing what you're supposed to and nothing for doing what you are?
 
sehad said:
I'm somewhat confused at what you're getting at. What do you mean that keeping the law gets you no points with God? Are you saying that you only get punishment for not doing what you're supposed to and nothing for doing what you are?

I think what he may mean is that no-one is made righteous by obeying the law. The righteousness that God requires is by faith.
 
Bob10 said:
Keeping the law is the minimum standard of acceptable conduct,

You are making it sound like it is very easy. Keeping Jesus' teachings is Christians' way of life! It is everyday effort!
 
sehad
Are you saying that you only get punishment for not doing what you're supposed to and nothing for doing what you are?


Abraham got blessed for obeying God.

Their are blessings and curses for obedience and disobedience (Lev. 26) -- a lot of IFs there.


Jesus: You are My friends, IF you do whatsoever I command you (Jn 15:14) --- Just like He said in Leviticus 26.


Ex
23:20
"Behold, I send an Angel before you to keep you in the way and to bring you into the place which I have prepared.


23:21
Beware of Him and obey His voice; do not provoke Him, for He will not pardon your transgressions; for My name is in Him.


23:22
But IF you indeed obey His voice and do all that I speak, then I will be an enemy to your enemies and an adversary to your adversaries.

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Bob10 said:
There is a confusion of the role of the law in the life of a Christian. The law is the revelation of right and wrong behavior. Breaking the law causes harm. Keeping the law is the minimum standard of acceptable conduct, not the definition of righteousness in God's sight. Jesus explained this in a short parable in Luke 17:7-10.

Luke 17:7-10 "Suppose one of you had a servant plowing or looking after the sheep. Would he say to the servant when he comes in from the field, 'Come along now and sit down to eat'? Would he not rather say, 'Prepare my supper, get yourself ready and wait on me while I eat and drink; after that you may eat and drink'? Would he thank the servant because he did what he was told to do? So you also, when you have done everything you were told to do, should say, 'We are unworthy servants; we have only done our duty.'"

The keeping of the law perfectly gains you no points with God. The law cannot lift you to excellence. It can only tell you what you have done wrong.

http://www.rondart.com/Galatians/gal2.htm

It is the Spirit that leads us into all truth - not the law.

And as far as being servants is concerned Jesus said, "As the Father has loved me, so have I loved you. Now remain in my love. If you obey my commands, you will remain in my love, just as I have obeyed my Father's commands and remain in his love. I have told you this so that my joy may be in you and that your joy may be complete. My command is this: Love each other as I have loved you. Greater love has no one than this, that he lay down his life for his friends. You are my friends if you do what I command. I no longer call you servants, because a servant does not know his master's business. Instead, I have called you friends, for everything that I learned from my Father I have made known to you. You did not choose me, but I chose you and appointed you to go and bear fruitâ€â€fruit that will last. Then the Father will give you whatever you ask in my name. This is my command: Love each other.
 
It is the Spirit that leads us into all truth - not the law.



John (New International Version)
14:26
But the Counselor, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you.




Acts
5:32
We are witnesses of these things, and so is the Holy Spirit, whom God has given to those who obey him."
 
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