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How does God define a sinner? Are everyone born perfect (non-sinner) but become a sinner after he committed a sin?

According to the bible in Romans 5:17-19, it is written that we are sinners because of Adam’s sin.

Romans 5:17-19
For if, by the trespass of the one man, death reigned through that one man, how much more will those who receive God’s abundant provision of grace and of the gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man, Jesus Christ! Consequently, just as one trespass resulted in condemnation for all people, so also one righteous act resulted in justification and life for all people. For just as through the disobedience of the one man the many were made sinners, so also through the obedience of the one man the many will be made righteous.


This means that everyone is born into this world as a sinner. We do not get to choose whether we want to be born as a sinner or non-sinner.

Why is this so? It is written in Genesis 5:3 that after Adam sinned, man is born in the likeness and image of Adam.

Genesis 5:3
And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, after his image; and called his name Seth.


Since Adam and Eve were the only couple on earth at the time, it is common sense to say that everyone are born in the likeness and image of them. I see Adam and Eve as if they are the mould and everyone is a product formed by the mould. When the mould is corrupted, everyone will end up corrupted.

Therefore as a sinner, we sinned in thought, action and desire. Even after being saved and born again Christian, we still sin. As written by Paul in the bible in Romans 7:15-20.

Romans 7:15-20
I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do. And if I do what I do not want to do, I agree that the law is good. As it is, it is no longer I myself who do it, but it is sin living in me. For I know that good itself does not dwell in me, that is, in my sinful nature. For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. For I do not do the good I want to do, but the evil I do not want to do—this I keep on doing. Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it.


Why does Christian still sinning even after born again?
When a person is born again as a Christian, God’s spirit in-dwell the believer. The believer’s soul is cleansed. But the body remains unchanged. There is still a part of us that wants to sin. If you are a true born again Christian, you will experience this struggle as descript by Paul in Romans 7:22-24

Romans 7:22-24
For in my inner being I delight in God’s law; but I see another law at work in me, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin at work within me. What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body that is subject to death?


Therefore, I conclude that no one can stop sinning. If someone tells you that he is able to stop sinning, that person is a liar and has committed the sin of lying. A person who does not sin outwardly in action, does not mean that he will not sin in thought or desire.

In Jeremiah 17:9, God descript the human heart as desperately wicked and deceitful.

Jeremiah 17:9
The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?


If the core of our being is deceitful and wicked, then no wonder God does not accept our righteous works. For our righteous works may be tainted or motivated by selfish desires.

Isaiah 64:6
But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.


Because of Adam’s disobedience, we are born sinners and no amount of good deeds or sacrifice on our part can redeem us from death. Thanks be to God who sent his son, Jesus who lived a sinless life and suffered our punishment to redeem us from death. By Jesus’ obedience, we are made righteous.

Romans 5:19
For just as through the disobedience of the one man the many were made sinners, so also through the obedience of the one man the many will be made righteous.


Although every Christians still sins and are not perfect, but God has put us In-Christ.

1 Corinthians 1:30
It is because of him that you are in Christ Jesus, who has become for us wisdom from God--that is, our righteousness, holiness and redemption.


Because when we are In-Christ, God see us as if we are Christ. We are righteous and holy because Christ is righteous and holy. God’s righteousness and holiness are gifts to us who believe in Jesus and his finished work.

1 John 4:17
This is how love is made complete among us so that we will have confidence on the day of judgment: In this world we are like Jesus.


God will no longer judge us based on what we did. But God will judge us based on what Christ’s finished work. We are all accepted and perfected in-Christ.
 
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How does God define a sinner? Are everyone born perfect (non-sinner) but become a sinner after he committed a sin?

According to the bible in Romans 5:17-19, it is written that we are sinners because of Adam’s sin.

Romans 5:17-19
For if, by the trespass of the one man, death reigned through that one man, how much more will those who receive God’s abundant provision of grace and of the gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man, Jesus Christ! Consequently, just as one trespass resulted in condemnation for all people, so also one righteous act resulted in justification and life for all people. For just as through the disobedience of the one man the many were made sinners, so also through the obedience of the one man the many will be made righteous.


This means that everyone is born into this world as a sinner. We do not get to choose whether we want to be born as a sinner or non-sinner.

Why is this so? It is written in Genesis 5:3 that after Adam sinned, man is born in the likeness and image of Adam.

Genesis 5:3
And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, after his image; and called his name Seth.


Since Adam and Eve were the only couple on earth at the time, it is common sense to say that everyone are born in the likeness and image of them. I see Adam and Eve as if they are the mould and everyone is a product formed by the mould. When the mould is corrupted, everyone will end up corrupted.

Therefore as a sinner, we sinned in thought, action and desire. Even after being saved and born again Christian, we still sin. As written by Paul in the bible in Romans 7:15-20.

Romans 7:15-20
I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do. And if I do what I do not want to do, I agree that the law is good. As it is, it is no longer I myself who do it, but it is sin living in me. For I know that good itself does not dwell in me, that is, in my sinful nature. For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. For I do not do the good I want to do, but the evil I do not want to do—this I keep on doing. Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it.


Why does Christian still sinning even after born again?
When a person is born again as a Christian, God’s spirit in-dwell the believer. The believer’s soul is cleansed. But the body remains unchanged. There is still a part of us that wants to sin. If you are a true born again Christian, you will experience this struggle as descript by Paul in Romans 7:22-24

Romans 7:22-24
For in my inner being I delight in God’s law; but I see another law at work in me, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin at work within me. What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body that is subject to death?


Therefore, I conclude that no one can stop sinning. If someone tells you that he is able to stop sinning, that person is a liar and has committed the sin of lying. A person who does not sin outwardly in action, does not mean that he will not sin in thought or desire.

In Jeremiah 17:9, God descript the human heart as desperately wicked and deceitful.

Jeremiah 17:9
The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?


If the core of our being is deceitful and wicked, then no wonder God does not accept our righteous works. For our righteous works may be tainted or motivated by selfish desires.

Isaiah 64:6
But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.


Because of Adam’s disobedience, we are born sinners and no amount of good deeds or sacrifice on our part can redeem us from death. Thanks be to God who sent his son, Jesus who lived a sinless life and suffered our punishment to redeem us from death. By Jesus’ obedience, we are made righteous.

Romans 5:19
For just as through the disobedience of the one man the many were made sinners, so also through the obedience of the one man the many will be made righteous.


Although every Christians still sins and are not perfect, but God has put us In-Christ.

1 Corinthians 1:30
It is because of him that you are in Christ Jesus, who has become for us wisdom from God--that is, our righteousness, holiness and redemption.


Because when we are In-Christ, God see us as if we are Christ. We are righteous and holy because Christ is righteous and holy. God’s righteousness and holiness are gifts to us who believe in Jesus and his finished work.

1 John 4:17
This is how love is made complete among us so that we will have confidence on the day of judgment: In this world we are like Jesus.


God will no longer judge us based on what we did. But God will judge us based on what Christ’s finished work. We are all accepted and perfected in-Christ.
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