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Well as you all may already know today is Palm Sunday so the kids at my church did the waving of the palms through the aisles before we sung and worshipped this morning. And this morning the pastor talked about how important it was not only to act the part of a Christian, but show that we are Christians through the fruit that we bear and that we really are supposed to love one another and stand together as one. Which I really, really liked. Whenever I do go to church we always have very good messages. And here is one of the songs that we sung today that I really liked. :)




 
Not to go back.

Our pastor announced at end of service, while first calling two women to the front to stand beside her, that they would be anointing this happy couple in the solemn vows of marriage under God.
 
Not to go back.

Our pastor announced at end of service, while first calling two women to the front to stand beside her, that they would be anointing this happy couple in the solemn vows of marriage under God.
This came out of the blue? There were no indications of the kind of church this is until today?
 
Not to go back.

Our pastor announced at end of service, while first calling two women to the front to stand beside her, that they would be anointing this happy couple in the solemn vows of marriage under God.






What? Are you sure that you didn't wind up taking a wrong turn and attend the church of Satan by mistake? :eek2
 
What? Are you sure that you didn't wind up taking a wrong turn and attend the church of Satan by mistake? :eek2
No, I'm sure I was in my church of the last ten years.
Came out of nowhere too. No forewarning, no notice in the bulletin. Nothing. Just the pastor saying, before everyone readies to leave and gather together in community after service I want to take a moment to.... And then she called the ladies by name to the front.
We thought these young women were going to be baptized in the evening service and that was the announcement.
There were quite a few murmurs and I think our pastor will be surprised by the turnout at tonight's service.

We think the reason this came out of the blue is to avoid a public announcement that the policy of the church is going to turn left . Because we have church policy meetings after prayer meeting on Wednesday evening. The leadership meets privately of course and then we as a body of faithful gather on Wednesday after prayer meeting to discuss what the leadership had met about on the Sunday afternoon after morning services prior.
None of that happened in this case. It was out of the blue , hi how are ya? We're turning apostate and these women helped! Type thing.
 
No, I'm sure I was in my church of the last ten years.
Came out of nowhere too. No forewarning, no notice in the bulletin. Nothing. Just the pastor saying, before everyone readies to leave and gather together in community after service I want to take a moment to.... And then she called the ladies by name to the front.
We thought these young women were going to be baptized in the evening service and that was the announcement.
There were quite a few murmurs and I think our pastor will be surprised by the turnout at tonight's service.

We think the reason this came out of the blue is to avoid a public announcement that the policy of the church is going to turn left . Because we have church policy meetings after prayer meeting on Wednesday evening. The leadership meets privately of course and then we as a body of faithful gather on Wednesday after prayer meeting to discuss what the leadership had met about on the Sunday afternoon after morning services prior.
None of that happened in this case. It was out of the blue , hi how are ya? We're turning apostate and these women helped! Type thing.
It's been a solidly biblical church? Some would question that on the basis of a female pastor alone.
 
It's been a solidly biblical church? Some would question that on the basis of a female pastor alone.




Are you saying that women can't preach the gospel? Because I know for a fact that isn't true. The lady at my grandmother's church (the one that she used to attend while she still lived in Ohio) was magnificent!
 
Are you saying that women can't preach the gospel? Because I know for a fact that isn't true. The lady at my grandmother's church (the one that she used to attend while she still lived in Ohio) was magnificent!
Sharing the Gospel and being a leader of a chunk of the body are two totally different things.
 
Are you saying that women can't preach the gospel? Because I know for a fact that isn't true. The lady at my grandmother's church (the one that she used to attend while she still lived in Ohio) was magnificent!
As was our pastor until now.
Women are called to preach.Unsound doctrines are that which apply sexism as worthy of God's words. Which isn't true.
Colossians 3:11, Galatians 3:28

We are all one in Christ Jesus. Thinking the exception to that is that the female sex would preclude God from calling a woman to spread the good news is absurd. A woman spread the word of Christ having risen from the tomb. There was a great message in that. And the scriptures show women serving as what today would be termed a pastoral position. Paul had women serving the role in the churches he instituted in the regions he managed.

I wanted to say also that men who think a woman unfit to preach should answer the question, if they're employed would they quit if their boss or immediate supervisor was a woman?
 
As was our pastor until now.
Women are called to preach.Unsound doctrines are that which apply sexism as worthy of God's words. Which isn't true.
Colossians 3:11, Galatians 3:28

We are all one in Christ Jesus. Thinking the exception to that is that the female sex would preclude God from calling a woman to spread the good news is absurd. A woman spread the word of Christ having risen from the tomb. There was a great message in that. And the scriptures show women serving as what today would be termed a pastoral position. Paul had women serving the role in the churches he instituted in the regions he managed.

I wanted to say also that men who think a woman unfit to preach should answer the question, if they're employed would they quit if their boss or immediate supervisor was a woman?





Amen. I may have not personally been called to preach the message, but I applaud the women that have. That do it right though. Leave it to the boys to demonstrate chauvinist behavior.
 
Just what I said. Anyone can share the Gospel, and we are all encouraged/commanded to 1 Peter 3:15. There is actual criteria for being a leader though. Those verses might look a bit chauvinistic to you.






Exactly. You don't have to have been a male to be a great natural born leader. Although I admit nobody knows for sure but Mary being the mother of Jesus Christmas probably was. Him being the Messiah and all, even if at first she was all bit shy and unsure of herself. At some point in time His teachings probably made an impact on her.
 
Amen. I may have not personally been called to preach the message, but I applaud the women that have. That do it right though. Leave it to the boys to demonstrate chauvinist behavior.
It's a matter of patriarchal tradition in the orthodoxy.
It isn't that God said he'd never call a woman to preach. It is the idea that men intentionally misinterpret the scriptures in order to claim God said women were not to be called to preach.
One woman serving a church from the pulpit shuts down the argument God does not call women to preach.

Men that insist on that error of their ways though in claiming a woman isn't called are creating a god in their image. The Bible tells us, God's thoughts are not our thoughts. Our thoughts are not God's. Men that think God believes women unable to preach because they're women are short sighted and ignorant of God's supremacy and creative power.
God made both men and women in his image and likeness.
Paul saying women should remain quiet in church had not a thing to do with women pastoring. Rather it was a directive to the churches of the time. When the congregations were segregated, men seated separate from their wives so there were no distractions during the sermon.
Women were to wait till after the service to inquire of something they may not have understood. Rather than call out to have it explained then and there.
If women were to remain quiet in the church women would not sing in choirs. Nor pastor Sunday school. But the chauvinist male will claim that woman pastoring Sunday school isn't pastoring! No, she's teaching. A distinction without a difference.
 
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