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What was the gospel of Mark 1:15
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cyberjosh
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I think it may have been closely tied to what Jesus preached about the Kingdom being at hand, since he also used that as a reason to repent. I have had this unspoken theory for a while that if the Jews hadn't rejected Jesus (though it was inevitable because of prophecy anyways - and Jesus had to die for us) that Jesus could have set up his end times kingdom right then. And if the people had just believed John the Baptist he would have also been the full end times fulfillement of being Elijah (Matt 11:14; 17:10-13), which is also kind of strange because to some people he was a Elijah but to others he was not. Makes you go hmmmm...
Nevertheless I bring that up to say that the Gospel was the good news of God's coming kingdom. Post-calvary the focus was Christocentric, and only through Christ (because of his sacrifice) could you enter the kingdom of God. Just a few opinions and speculations, by no means a developed doctrine.
~Josh
Nevertheless I bring that up to say that the Gospel was the good news of God's coming kingdom. Post-calvary the focus was Christocentric, and only through Christ (because of his sacrifice) could you enter the kingdom of God. Just a few opinions and speculations, by no means a developed doctrine.
~Josh
AVBunyan said:
I would agree with Cybershark, the gospel, or "good news" was as Jesus said, "The kingdom of heaven is near". This is the kingdom, the hope of Israel, for which they have been longing.
But, as I understand it, they were looking for their Messiah to come in power and glory to free them from their conquerers (in this case, Rome).
Jesus came as a servant and preached "repent for the kingdom of the heavens is near", indicating to me, that a change of heart, a change of mind, had to happen to the people before the kingdom could be realized.
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RyanReborn
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I like N.T. Wright's approach to the definition of gospel. In Isaiah we have a vision of a herald proclaiming a gospel. It is a royal proclamation of four things:
1). Crucified Jesus.
2). Risen Jesus.
3). Jesus as King. for it is through Jesus that YHWH made himself known to all of the world.
4). Jesus as Lord. Jesus is not only the coming King of the Jewis, but the King of the entire world and of all people.
In 1 Corinthians 15, Paul expands on this "proclamation." I do not believe the Gospel's definition is "the good news" or a way for someone to get saved, but rather a royal proclamation of Jesus, the Messiah.
1). Crucified Jesus.
2). Risen Jesus.
3). Jesus as King. for it is through Jesus that YHWH made himself known to all of the world.
4). Jesus as Lord. Jesus is not only the coming King of the Jewis, but the King of the entire world and of all people.
In 1 Corinthians 15, Paul expands on this "proclamation." I do not believe the Gospel's definition is "the good news" or a way for someone to get saved, but rather a royal proclamation of Jesus, the Messiah.
Well gang – I kind of figured this thread would dry up on the vine for a couple of reasons:
1. No one was interested – I understand this for some threads just don’t interest folks.
2. No one had an answer which proves my theory.
My theory was this:
1. The gospel or message prior to Calvary is misunderstood or not even known by the majority of real saints today.
2. The gospel or message after Calvary during early Acts is misunderstood.
3. The gospel or message for today is definitely misunderstood.
The above is why the majority of folks believe they can lose it or have doubts about their own salvation or have trouble witnessing with a clear presentation of the simple gospel for today.
I will only address the OP – What was the gospel preached in Mark and the rest of the gospels.
The word gospel means “good tidingsâ€Â:
Isa 61:1 The spirit of the Lord GOD is upon me; because the LORD hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound;
Luke 4:18 The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor;
In Isa. 61:1 the phrase is “good tidingsâ€Â. In Luke Jesus substitutes “Good tidings†with the word “gospelâ€Â…thus gospel means good tidings.
The good tidings of the Gospels are…
1. The promised physical, earthly kingdom is here for the Jews.
2. In order for one to get into the kingdom one must:
a. Believe who Jesus said he was – the promised Messiah and the son of God:
John 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.
b. Get baptized to show you believe the above:
John 1:31 And I knew him not: but that he should be made manifest to Israel, therefore am I come baptizing with water.
Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
c. Continue in the law:
Mat 28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
Mat 23:3 All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.
The “good tidings†for today are different than back then. These good tidings are found in Paul – I Cor. 15:1-5.
God bless and farewell 8-)
1. No one was interested – I understand this for some threads just don’t interest folks.
2. No one had an answer which proves my theory.
My theory was this:
1. The gospel or message prior to Calvary is misunderstood or not even known by the majority of real saints today.
2. The gospel or message after Calvary during early Acts is misunderstood.
3. The gospel or message for today is definitely misunderstood.
The above is why the majority of folks believe they can lose it or have doubts about their own salvation or have trouble witnessing with a clear presentation of the simple gospel for today.
I will only address the OP – What was the gospel preached in Mark and the rest of the gospels.
The word gospel means “good tidingsâ€Â:
Isa 61:1 The spirit of the Lord GOD is upon me; because the LORD hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound;
Luke 4:18 The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor;
In Isa. 61:1 the phrase is “good tidingsâ€Â. In Luke Jesus substitutes “Good tidings†with the word “gospelâ€Â…thus gospel means good tidings.
The good tidings of the Gospels are…
1. The promised physical, earthly kingdom is here for the Jews.
2. In order for one to get into the kingdom one must:
a. Believe who Jesus said he was – the promised Messiah and the son of God:
John 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.
b. Get baptized to show you believe the above:
John 1:31 And I knew him not: but that he should be made manifest to Israel, therefore am I come baptizing with water.
Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
c. Continue in the law:
Mat 28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
Mat 23:3 All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.
The “good tidings†for today are different than back then. These good tidings are found in Paul – I Cor. 15:1-5.
God bless and farewell 8-)
As usual you misjudge me - Both Cybershark and Bick were pretty much right on and heading in the right direction for sure:Free said:Maybe it was because most of us know that you will just come in and tell us how wrong we all are.
Cybershark said:
"I think it may have been closely tied to what Jesus preached about the Kingdom being at hand, since he also used that as a reason to repent. I have had this unspoken theory for a while that if the Jews hadn't rejected Jesus (though it was inevitable because of prophecy anyways - and Jesus had to die for us) that Jesus could have set up his end times kingdom right then. And if the people had just believed John the Baptist he would have also been the full end times fulfillement of being Elijah (Matt 11:14; 17:10-13), which is also kind of strange because to some people he was a Elijah but to others he was not. Makes you go hmmmm..."
Bick said:
"I would agree with Cybershark, the gospel, or "good news" was as Jesus said, "The kingdom of heaven is near". This is the kingdom, the hope of Israel, for which they have been longing. "
Good job Cyber and Bick ---
God bless
Well, Free, I have to be honest here – I believe I have a better understanding of the kingdom of heaven,as little as it is. Heaven is something you can see – it is the literal, physical kingdom on earth promised to Israel.Free said:
The kingdom of God, on the other hand, is a bit more vague. I see them both related though. One cannot see God so I’m assuming the kingdom of God is the more “spiritual†aspect of the two kingdoms. See verses below:
Luke 17:20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:
Can’t see it.
Luke 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.
Doesn’t seem to be physical.
John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
Connected with the Spirit.
Rom 14:17 For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost.
Here is a good contrast between the physical and spiritual.
1 Cor 4:20 For the kingdom of God is not in word, but in power.
Associated with power – most likely the internal power from God.
That’s all I got – not much but it is something.
God bless