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Why does God permit evil and suffering?†is a childish and naive question, but one which I hear quite often. And the strange thing is that I hear this question not from children but from adults who consider themselves to be Christians: “Why do the innocent suffer? Why are children born blind. Why does a promising life crumble in its prime? Why is there social injustice?â€

Arriving in the United States for the first time, I could not understand why my friends deliberately exposed their healthy baby to a neighbor’s child, who was suffering with chicken pox. After a while I understood. After two to three days of being infected, a child recovers from chicken pox and has no trace of the disease. My friends did this to the disease, so it would not overtake their child in older age. Chicken pox is a much more serious disease in adults, often lingering for more than one month and sometimes causing death. Deliberately exposing a child to chicken pox is the same as giving him common vaccinations, which we do to our children at birth.

In a good, pious family a mother died, leaving her husband and three children. The father was lost in his grief. Arriving at the cemetery, his mind dimmed, he almost ran into the open pit in which the coffin was to be lowered. When the funeral was finally over, and having recovered somewhat, he started to drive the children home. Within five minutes, he turned the car around and drove back to the cemetery. His children, trying to comfort him, tried to persuade him to turn around, but he turned to them and quietly said, “Do not worry. I forgot something. I’ll be all right.†Back in the cemetery, he went alone to the grave. A few minutes later he returned to the glances of inquiring children, and said, “I forgot to thank God for taking your mother before me. Can you imagine what she would need to bear if I died before her?†In other words, he would not want to subject his wife to the testing and grief he suffered himself.

In the United States, many small towns do not have hospitals and doctors. One young man who graduated from medical school decided to go to a small town in Nebraska, where he founded a private practice. He knew full well that he would earn much less money than he would if he opened a practice in a big city. At the same time, he knew that the city needed a doctor. Arriving in town, he opened a small clinic. He and his wife, a nurse, began helping people. For his work, he charged very little, and for those who were short on money he did not take anything.

The doctor quickly became very popular in this small town. The people loved and highly respected him. When election time came, he was asked to run for mayor of the city. He did not refuse and of course was chosen. On the same day he was supposed to go to the city administration to take the oath, he suddenly became blind. It was a terrible misfortune for the entire city and a terrible grief for his wife. The doctor was transported to the hospital, located 60 miles away, but they were unable to identify a cause for his blindness. The young doctor did not lose heart and consoled his crying wife with the words “So must the Lord.â€

Several weeks passed and the young doctor sat at home, while his wife went to work to assist the sick. When she needed more knowledge, she called home to her husband. In one of those days he was in the kitchen when the phone rang. He knew it was his wife calling, and he hurried to the phone. He was still not settled into the house and got his foot caught on a table leg. He fell, hit his head on the table, and lost consciousness. His wife, alarmed that he did not answer the phone, rushed home and found her beloved husband on the floor in a puddle of blood. At that time the helicopter was summoned from the nearest hospital, and the young man received all the necessary examinations and was taken into the operating room. His wife waited, and the hours seemed to last an eternity; she walked down the hallway near the operating room, fearfully awaiting the outcome. Finally the door opened, the surgeon came out and went to her. "By doing the operation, we found a tumor in his brain, which was pressing on a nerve that controls vision. We removed the tumor,†he said. “The wound was minor, and, most importantly, your husband's vision is restored. He softly added that if her husband had not gone blind and had the accident, the tumor would have gone unnoticed and he would have died within a month.â€

In The Mysterious Stranger, Mark Twain tells the story of how, during the Middle Ages, an angel came to a small village in Austria. He quickly made friends with a group of local children, as they were his peers. The guys just loved him and accepted him into their circle. They played together and went into the woods to the river, which flows near the village. One clear sunny day, they went swimming. Among this group of boys was very nice, beautiful, and loving little ten-year-old girl whom everyone loved. She also went swimming this day and drowned. Running, the grieving parents and the whole village gathered at the scene. The villagers began to interrogate the angel. "How could you allow this? You're an angel! You could prevent the death of our friend ". The angel replied as follows: "I went through it a millions lives of her choice and the best was one in which she grew up, went to the city, where she became a “walkâ€, contracted a terrible disease and tormented by the pain and shame, lain 20 years in a filthy hovel and died. It was the best version of her life.â€
Now imagine that you did not know the ending of these stories. What would you say? Why does God allow pain and suffering? Consider the following two points: First, suppose that a man wants to harm you, your children, relatives, and friends, and you do not know what to do. Turn to the Lord, that He may avenge you. You can pray until the end of the century, knock you’re yours head against a wall or floor, but all your attempts will be doomed to failure. The Lord will hear you and cry with you, but he simply cannot help you with your request. The Lord cannot give what is not in his nature. In the Lord, in His own nature, there is no evil, violence, revenge, deceit, lies, or, any vices. He cannot give you what He does not have.

Second, every time you experience evil or sorrow, rejoice. "But I tell you: Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for those who persecute you." That is why we should not be surprised of our share of hard times. When it comes to trouble--illness, financial hardship, disappointment, we immediately ask Why? And because God puts us in such circumstances, we require more strength of will, courage , and patience. Whenever we fall, He again puts us on our feet. Whenever we fall ill (remember the first story about vaccinations), we become stronger. God makes us go forward, to climb to a higher level. The Lord knows the price of our own efforts. We will never be come close to perfection. The Lord wants to transform us into such creatures that would stand up to any test. He will turn the weakest, the most unworthy of us, into a god or a goddess, a dazzling, radiant creature with such energy that it is difficult to imagine. This will be a long and sometimes painful process, but it is our destiny, our choice.

“It may be difficult for an egg to turn into a bird, but it is much more difficult to learn to fly while remaining an egg. We are now like an egg, but we cannot indefinitely remain just an egg, an ordinary, decent egg. Either we hatch out of it, or it will deteriorateâ€.

Sergei Chernyaev. 2006.
 
Good post :)

Have we ever understood why God permitted Job to experience the suffering he did? And how was Christ perfected through his suffering on the cross?

.02... something to ponder anyway.
 
Why does God permit evil and suffering?†is a childish and naive question, but one which I hear quite often. And the strange thing is that I hear this question not from children but from adults who consider themselves to be Christians: “Why do the innocent suffer? Why are children born blind. Why does a promising life crumble in its prime? Why is there social injustice?â€

Arriving in the United States for the first time, I could not understand why my friends deliberately exposed their healthy baby to a neighbor’s child, who was suffering with chicken pox. After a while I understood. After two to three days of being infected, a child recovers from chicken pox and has no trace of the disease. My friends did this to the disease, so it would not overtake their child in older age. Chicken pox is a much more serious disease in adults, often lingering for more than one month and sometimes causing death. Deliberately exposing a child to chicken pox is the same as giving him common vaccinations, which we do to our children at birth.

In a good, pious family a mother died, leaving her husband and three children. The father was lost in his grief. Arriving at the cemetery, his mind dimmed, he almost ran into the open pit in which the coffin was to be lowered. When the funeral was finally over, and having recovered somewhat, he started to drive the children home. Within five minutes, he turned the car around and drove back to the cemetery. His children, trying to comfort him, tried to persuade him to turn around, but he turned to them and quietly said, “Do not worry. I forgot something. I’ll be all right.†Back in the cemetery, he went alone to the grave. A few minutes later he returned to the glances of inquiring children, and said, “I forgot to thank God for taking your mother before me. Can you imagine what she would need to bear if I died before her?†In other words, he would not want to subject his wife to the testing and grief he suffered himself.

In the United States, many small towns do not have hospitals and doctors. One young man who graduated from medical school decided to go to a small town in Nebraska, where he founded a private practice. He knew full well that he would earn much less money than he would if he opened a practice in a big city. At the same time, he knew that the city needed a doctor. Arriving in town, he opened a small clinic. He and his wife, a nurse, began helping people. For his work, he charged very little, and for those who were short on money he did not take anything.

The doctor quickly became very popular in this small town. The people loved and highly respected him. When election time came, he was asked to run for mayor of the city. He did not refuse and of course was chosen. On the same day he was supposed to go to the city administration to take the oath, he suddenly became blind. It was a terrible misfortune for the entire city and a terrible grief for his wife. The doctor was transported to the hospital, located 60 miles away, but they were unable to identify a cause for his blindness. The young doctor did not lose heart and consoled his crying wife with the words “So must the Lord.â€

Several weeks passed and the young doctor sat at home, while his wife went to work to assist the sick. When she needed more knowledge, she called home to her husband. In one of those days he was in the kitchen when the phone rang. He knew it was his wife calling, and he hurried to the phone. He was still not settled into the house and got his foot caught on a table leg. He fell, hit his head on the table, and lost consciousness. His wife, alarmed that he did not answer the phone, rushed home and found her beloved husband on the floor in a puddle of blood. At that time the helicopter was summoned from the nearest hospital, and the young man received all the necessary examinations and was taken into the operating room. His wife waited, and the hours seemed to last an eternity; she walked down the hallway near the operating room, fearfully awaiting the outcome. Finally the door opened, the surgeon came out and went to her. "By doing the operation, we found a tumor in his brain, which was pressing on a nerve that controls vision. We removed the tumor,†he said. “The wound was minor, and, most importantly, your husband's vision is restored. He softly added that if her husband had not gone blind and had the accident, the tumor would have gone unnoticed and he would have died within a month.â€

In The Mysterious Stranger, Mark Twain tells the story of how, during the Middle Ages, an angel came to a small village in Austria. He quickly made friends with a group of local children, as they were his peers. The guys just loved him and accepted him into their circle. They played together and went into the woods to the river, which flows near the village. One clear sunny day, they went swimming. Among this group of boys was very nice, beautiful, and loving little ten-year-old girl whom everyone loved. She also went swimming this day and drowned. Running, the grieving parents and the whole village gathered at the scene. The villagers began to interrogate the angel. "How could you allow this? You're an angel! You could prevent the death of our friend ". The angel replied as follows: "I went through it a millions lives of her choice and the best was one in which she grew up, went to the city, where she became a “walkâ€, contracted a terrible disease and tormented by the pain and shame, lain 20 years in a filthy hovel and died. It was the best version of her life.â€
Now imagine that you did not know the ending of these stories. What would you say? Why does God allow pain and suffering? Consider the following two points: First, suppose that a man wants to harm you, your children, relatives, and friends, and you do not know what to do. Turn to the Lord, that He may avenge you. You can pray until the end of the century, knock you’re yours head against a wall or floor, but all your attempts will be doomed to failure. The Lord will hear you and cry with you, but he simply cannot help you with your request. The Lord cannot give what is not in his nature. In the Lord, in His own nature, there is no evil, violence, revenge, deceit, lies, or, any vices. He cannot give you what He does not have.

Second, every time you experience evil or sorrow, rejoice. "But I tell you: Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for those who persecute you." That is why we should not be surprised of our share of hard times. When it comes to trouble--illness, financial hardship, disappointment, we immediately ask Why? And because God puts us in such circumstances, we require more strength of will, courage , and patience. Whenever we fall, He again puts us on our feet. Whenever we fall ill (remember the first story about vaccinations), we become stronger. God makes us go forward, to climb to a higher level. The Lord knows the price of our own efforts. We will never be come close to perfection. The Lord wants to transform us into such creatures that would stand up to any test. He will turn the weakest, the most unworthy of us, into a god or a goddess, a dazzling, radiant creature with such energy that it is difficult to imagine. This will be a long and sometimes painful process, but it is our destiny, our choice.

“It may be difficult for an egg to turn into a bird, but it is much more difficult to learn to fly while remaining an egg. We are now like an egg, but we cannot indefinitely remain just an egg, an ordinary, decent egg. Either we hatch out of it, or it will deteriorateâ€.

Sergei Chernyaev. 2006.


Bottom/line is that we are to be 'PROVEN' safe to save. Nah. 1:9 (note Heb. 12:4-8) And it is required to begin with the New Birth & the now Given POWER of these ones of His creation working together with Christ Phil. 4:13 + 2 Cor. 12:9's Grace. IF WE WILL?

From babes to MATURE SAFE TO SAVE OBEDIENT SONS OF CHRIST. Acts 5:32 And we will [ALL] be tested if we are obedient sons! Heb. 12:8 finds that we are note [forced] to be, or programed as such! (OSAS :robot)

--Elijah
 
Bottom/line is that we are to be 'PROVEN' safe to save. Nah. 1:9 (note Heb. 12:4-8) And it is required to begin with the New Birth & the now Given POWER of these ones of His creation working together with Christ Phil. 4:13 + 2 Cor. 12:9's Grace. IF WE WILL?

From babes to MATURE SAFE TO SAVE OBEDIENT SONS OF CHRIST. Acts 5:32 And we will [ALL] be tested if we are obedient sons! Heb. 12:8 finds that we are note [forced] to be, or programed as such! (OSAS :robot)

--Elijah
Dear Elijah, do you mean we are note: forced to be or\ not forced? For the scripture you quote is about enduring chastening which means a loving but forceful correction. Then you say programmed?
 
We are forgetting that God is the Creator of everything...including evil:

Isa 45:7 "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things."

However, God never intended for evil to take on the form it did. It is meant as a tool to conform us to His image, to reveal things about ourselves that we need to turn away from. He has graciously allowed us to have free will, the freedom to choose good but we have been foolish enough to choose evil...

God allows the "circle of life" if you will to take place. If everything was good and perfect all of the time, would we ever even seek God?
A forced action results in an empty commitment.
If we were all forced to serve Him, would we truly appreciate who He is?
Here is what the Lord has revealed to me...if you have any questions, no matter what they are, the answer can be found here:

God's main purpose:
Is to be known (wants a relationship with us)
Our main purpose: Is to know Him (needs a relationship with Him)
Foundational purpose: To know true love in it's purest form (His death for our life)
 
We are forgetting that God is the Creator of everything...including evil:

Isa 45:7 "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things."

However, God never intended for evil to take on the form it did. It is meant as a tool to conform us to His image, to reveal things about ourselves that we need to turn away from. He has graciously allowed us to have free will, the freedom to choose good but we have been foolish enough to choose evil...

God allows the "circle of life" if you will to take place. If everything was good and perfect all of the time, would we ever even seek God?
A forced action results in an empty commitment.
If we were all forced to serve Him, would we truly appreciate who He is?
Here is what the Lord has revealed to me...if you have any questions, no matter what they are, the answer can be found here:

God's main purpose: Is to be known (wants a relationship with us)
Our main purpose: Is to know Him (needs a relationship with Him)
Foundational purpose: To know true love in it's purest form (His death for our life)

You say some very good things regarding good and evil and as such is the case that we must come unto knowledge out of ignorance, only pride would prevent us from coming to God. Therefore you are correct to identify foolishness as a motivater to deny God. This ignorance is common to all men and so to say we choose freely is inaccurate, even as you point out that God makes both hunger and food so that we may be thankful to Him.

A few questions here I would put to you. Does it not take good to choose goodness? Did not Jesus say, I know you and that you have not the Love of God in your heart for the one whom God sent, in him you do not believe? Did not Jesus say no man can come to me unless it is given by God? Did not Paul say that God had chosen the Lowly rich in faith and that it was not of yourselves that you are in Christ? I could go on and on about how the scriptures show God hides from some what He reveals to others. And why? To show He is God. So that we might esteem Him as such and worship Him in Truth. Ultimately the only evidence that men have a freewill will be that they choose to deny God when in fact we were already dead and God had mercy where He will have mercy. We are all saved by mercy.

You say a forced action ends in an empty commitment. I understand your point, but this is mitigated by the fact there is only One True God. So isn't it true that God is where the food is? Respectfully, to say we came to Him because we freely chose to, is like the prodigal son coming back to the Father because he decided to give him another chance. Is this not somewhat patronizing in this context? The prodigal son in reality chooses to come back because he knows his original choice was made out of ignorance. Hence he comes back humbled and willing to be a servant for he sees how he had taken his place with his Father for granted. I have no problem with people saying we make choices, but pertaining to morality, the knowledge of God is what will make us choose correctly and this knowledge comes by revelation. Hence there is the Christ, the True Image of God so that we might believe and be changed through faith in this beautiful Image, so this is what comforms us while darkness is just a backdrop for light. And there is the Holy Spirit that convicts us of sin, whom without we would not even see we had done wrong. That's how important it is to regard God correctly. In montheism there is only one God so it matters not to say you have a choice.

Some will say they can yet deny God. This is not freedom this is foolhardiness, and this fool will be seen as a fool when this fool finds out that you can't run from God. He will make you a byword. So please don't speak about how God won't force you, because I then have to deal with clever atheists who simply point out the hypocrisy of a statement such as that, made by Christians; And then neatly point out that God forces people to hell who don't choose to love Him. Hence His name is blasphemed.
 
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We are forgetting that God is the Creator of everything...including evil:

Isa 45:7 "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things."

However, God never intended for evil to take on the form it did. It is meant as a tool to conform us to His image, to reveal things about ourselves that we need to turn away from. He has graciously allowed us to have free will, the freedom to choose good but we have been foolish enough to choose evil...

God allows the "circle of life" if you will to take place. If everything was good and perfect all of the time, would we ever even seek God?
A forced action results in an empty commitment.
If we were all forced to serve Him, would we truly appreciate who He is?
Here is what the Lord has revealed to me...if you have any questions, no matter what they are, the answer can be found here:

God's main purpose: Is to be known (wants a relationship with us)
Our main purpose: Is to know Him (needs a relationship with Him)
Foundational purpose: To know true love in it's purest form (His death for our life)
God did create evil. Suffering happens to perfect us, as you have stated, to conform us to His image.
Our purpose is to attain the full stature of Christ, to particpate with Him to reveal His glory. Which was the entire plan all along, everything that happened, is happening and will happen is for this purpose, God was and is not surprised by anything that has happened, from the garden until now, nor will he be surprised in the future. It's all for revealing His glory!
 
Dear Elijah, do you mean we are note: forced to be or\ not forced? For the scripture you quote is about enduring chastening which means a loving but forceful correction. Then you say programmed?

In context, chastening come as seen in children (as the verses use as a whole there) of God that are Partakers. It was not 'spankings' persay that were the only chastisments that were born which were for our Maturity.

What were most cost effective were the harder [Duties] such [as required] keeping the room tidy, mowing the lawn, and doing school work [at home]. And in comparison to the Christians Required MATURE work, we find us needing the Lord's 'spankings'. So NO we do not do many times what we choose not [wanting to do]! OK??


And your question as 'i' see it has been [fatefully neglected] with the broadway & Rev. 17:1-5 ones who are prophesied as such, and as being past/tense Partakers. And the problem again seen?? 'i' see it as in clergy and leadership being cop/outs and in REFUSEING their REQUIRED DUTIES left by Christ.
And what are they? Surely not Matt. 23:15, but that of Matt. 28:20. And between these two is a big required difference.


Matt. 18:14-18 was the way that Christ designed it when He was here on earth. And because [hard duties] have not been done many [bastards] have become fatherless as per/Heb. 12, and this total full neglected sin OMISSION finds the God Result in Eze. 9 as fact. See Josh. 7:12 last part of the verse.


--Elijah
 
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In context, chastening come as seen in children (as the verses use as a whole there) of God that are Partakers. It was not 'spankings' persay that were the only chastisments that were born which were for our Maturity.

What were most cost effective were the harder [Duties] such [as required] keeping the room tidy, mowing the lawn, and doing school work [at home]. And in comparison to the Christians Required MATURE work, we find us needing the Lord's 'spankings'. So NO we do not do many times what we choose not [wanting to do]! OK??


And your question as 'i' see it has been [fatefully neglected] with the broadway & Rev. 17:1-5 ones who are prophesied as such, and as being past/tense Partakers. And the problem again seen?? 'i' see it as in clergy and leadership being cop/outs and in REFUSEING their REQUIRED DUTIES left by Christ.
And what are they? Surely not Matt. 23:15, but that of Matt. 28:20. And between these two is a big required difference.


Matt. 18:14-18 was the way that Christ designed it when He was here on earth. And because [hard duties] have not been done many [bastards] have become fatherless as per/Heb. 12, and this total full neglected sin OMISSION finds the God Result in Eze. 9 as fact. See Josh. 7:12 last part of the verse.


--Elijah
The scriptures you provided were very helpful in understanding the burden of your heart. Forgive me that I have not been able to always understand your posts. I agree with your cause and see the truth of it. I am moved to preach the Truth that sets men free, and for this I must establish that men's wills are enslaved by sin. There are elements in christianity that deny any enslavement exists and use the power of decision as their proof. Ironically they call disobedience to God proof of their freedom. So as I see it, they cannot be set free when they are blind to their captivity. I believe God is the only goodness in man, but men do not regard Him as such thinking they will to be good at their own discretion. This is shown when God says to Samuel, they have rejected me, because they sought a king to rule over them.
 
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God did create evil. Suffering happens to perfect us, as you have stated, to conform us to His image.
Our purpose is to attain the full stature of Christ, to particpate with Him to reveal His glory. Which was the entire plan all along, everything that happened, is happening and will happen is for this purpose, God was and is not surprised by anything that has happened, from the garden until now, nor will he be surprised in the future. It's all for revealing His glory!

Hi, 'i' highlighted the above for you to give your thoughts on?

How do you explain James 1:13?
'Let no man say when he is tempted. I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempted He any man.'

I find it impossible for evil to be created by a PERFECT GODHEAD?? I would give some examples, but you might think that it was off topic?

 
Hi, 'i' highlighted the above for you to give your thoughts on?

How do you explain James 1:13?
'Let no man say when he is tempted. I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempted He any man.'

I find it impossible for evil to be created by a PERFECT GODHEAD?? I would give some examples, but you might think that it was off topic?
Isaiah 45:7, God created everything, there is nothing that exists that He did not create.
God does not tempt us, He does test us though, He uses Satan to refine us, look at Job.
 
I realized once when thinking about this that part of the problem was me. I thought that a loving God owed me a good time here on a Earth, and an after party in Heaven. Then I realized: its not even about me, or any other human being. God wants us to be joyful, to be in communion with Him, and then experience deep joy and true happiness in Heaven. That said, when we are taught "God is love," what we aren't taught is that God's love is fierce, all-consuming, and often painful. God loves us and wants to perfect us, to make us strong men and women He can call His children. To that end, suffering and evil certainly serve a purpose.

I think back on my own relatively short life. If I hadn't endured suffering and evil, both as a result of my own sin and simply as a result of living in a Fallen World, I wouldn't be a Christian today. I mean, why bother? If you can handle your life yourself, what normal human being would ever choose God? We're all wicked from birth, with an anti-Christ nature, so what on Earth could push us towards our creator?

Evil. Suffering. Pain. These things draw us to God, who then uses them (and good things, too--God's not just about pain) to make us fully human, men and women He calls his Church.
 
I realized once when thinking about this that part of the problem was me. I thought that a loving God owed me a good time here on a Earth, and an after party in Heaven. Then I realized: its not even about me, or any other human being. God wants us to be joyful, to be in communion with Him, and then experience deep joy and true happiness in Heaven. That said, when we are taught "God is love," what we aren't taught is that God's love is fierce, all-consuming, and often painful. God loves us and wants to perfect us, to make us strong men and women He can call His children. To that end, suffering and evil certainly serve a purpose.

I think back on my own relatively short life. If I hadn't endured suffering and evil, both as a result of my own sin and simply as a result of living in a Fallen World, I wouldn't be a Christian today. I mean, why bother? If you can handle your life yourself, what normal human being would ever choose God? We're all wicked from birth, with an anti-Christ nature, so what on Earth could push us towards our creator?

Evil. Suffering. Pain. These things draw us to God, who then uses them (and good things, too--God's not just about pain) to make us fully human, men and women He calls his Church.
A very objective view. I know I called out to God in my distress.
 
Hi, 'i' highlighted the above for you to give your thoughts on?

How do you explain James 1:13?
'Let no man say when he is tempted. I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempted He any man.'

I find it impossible for evil to be created by a PERFECT GODHEAD?? I would give some examples, but you might think that it was off topic?
We are tempted by our flesh. All carnal service is vanity without an altruistic Love.
 
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Hi, 'i' highlighted the above for you to give your thoughts on?

How do you explain James 1:13?
'Let no man say when he is tempted. I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempted He any man.'

I find it impossible for evil to be created by a PERFECT GODHEAD?? I would give some examples, but you might think that it was off topic?





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Hi, my post was for the two of post 9 who say that God created evil. I don't buy that.
--Elijah
 
Why does God permit evil and suffering?


It's simple. It's for punishment.


Please look into this, it is so easy to learn that a child can understand it.
 
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Hi, 'i' highlighted the above for you to give your thoughts on?

How do you explain James 1:13?
'Let no man say when he is tempted. I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempted He any man.'

I find it impossible for evil to be created by a PERFECT GODHEAD?? I would give some examples, but you might think that it was off topic?





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Child Eye says:
We are tempted by our flesh. All carnal service is vanity without an altruistic Love.<!-- google_ad_section_end -->

Hi, my post was for the two of post 9 who say that God created evil. I don't buy that.
--Elijah
Elijah,
Did you read the verse I gave you?
Without evil, how do we know what good is?
 
Why does God permit evil and suffering?


It's simple. It's for punishment.


Please look into this, it is so easy to learn that a child can understand it.

That's not the only reason, we are being refined, conformed to His image, dying to our flesh. If we didn't suffer, we wouldn't do any of these things.
 
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