We are talking about a grandpa here so the discussion is not about premarital sex. But let's say you meant "having sex without being married" which most Christians would call a sin.
You quoted a number of verses about fornication but you didn't give any biblical definition of fornication. You merely quoted
1 Corinthians 7:2 which is only Paul's way of, supposedly, avoiding fornication. Now:
1- Jesus never said anything about sex.
2- fornication is not defined in the Bible.
3- as a matter of fact -- and I did mention this earlier in this thread -- Jesus was very clear the only law is Love , all commandments deriving from the Law of Love (
Matthew 22:36-40). How could two persons who are in love and who are having sex without being married oppose the Law of Love? (same question about two consenting adults having occasional sex within the limits I stated earlier?)
4- I would say that a married couple having a quick f*ck three times a day year round would fornicate according to the Christian understanding of fornication
5- therefore, both because of points #1, #2, #3 and #4, Paul's affirmation that marriage prevents fornication seems irrelevant to me
6- moreover Paul wrote:
"I also want the women to dress modestly, with decency and propriety, adorning themselves, not with elaborate hairstyles or gold or pearls or expensive clothes, but with good deeds, appropriate for women who profess to worship God" (1 Timothy 2:9-10) yet most Christians wouldn't mind a woman wearing peal earrings, having their hair dyed or occasionally wearing a fancy dress, would they?
7- even worse, Paul wrote:
"A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet." (1 Timothy 2:11-12) yet most Christians don't mind Christian women speaking out on forums or on social networks, do they?
8- yet even worse, in 1 Timothy 2:8 , Paul wrote
"Therefore I want the men everywhere to pray, lifting up holy hands without anger or disputing" even though no one else throughout the Bible says men should lift up their hands to pray. Then, in 1 Timothy 2:9 Paul wrote "
I also want the women...". Then again, in 1 Timothy 2:12, Paul wrote
"I do not permit a woman.." rather than
"Jesus does not permit" which means that, three times in a row,
Paul gave his own commands, not Jesus' or God's.
I am therefore asking you -- as well as all other members, of course:
1- why do Christians give so much importance to Paul's obsession with sexual purity when they don't mind Paul's extremist demands to women?
2- why do Christians give so much importance to Paul's obsession with sexual purity when Paul was sometimes arrogant enough to give his own commands?
3- why do Christians give so much importance to Paul's obsession with sexual purity although Jesus himself never said anything about sex?
4- why do Christians give so much importance to Paul's obsession with sexual purity when it actually contradicts the Law of Love as stated by Jesus himself in
Matthew 22:36-40 ?
Come on! Are we Paulists or are we Christians? Is Paul our shepherd or is Jesus our shepherd? (Psalms 23:1)