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Is the vaccine effective?
- Thread starter Serving Zion
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These people are modern day witches... Concocting poison in a cauldron
Meanwhile the FDA wants to with hold the data from this Pfizer experiment until the year 2076...
FDA wants to with hold experiment data for 55 years
FDA wants to with hold experiment data for 55 years
I see it all as judgement meant by the Lord to cause His people to repent. But that's just me!Meanwhile the FDA wants to with hold the data from this Pfizer experiment until the year 2076...
Maybe. I also see the evil one deceiving the masses...
He deceived me for 20 years when i was a prodigal so im very familiar with him and i know when im looking at him...
We are seeing his manifestation taking place with these injections...
The question is, how long will it last??? What do u think
"…10and with every wicked deception directed against those who are perishing, because they refused the love of the truth that would have saved them. 11 For this reason God will send them a powerful delusion so that they believe the lie, 12in order that judgment may come upon all who have disbelieved the truth and delighted in wickedness." - 2 Thessalonians 2:10-12
The devil is a tool in God's hands. I am also aware of the enemy.
We may have a break, though I believe we are close to the great tribulation. Myself, I just don't see things getting better before they get worse.
The devil is a tool in God's hands. I am also aware of the enemy.
We may have a break, though I believe we are close to the great tribulation. Myself, I just don't see things getting better before they get worse.
What do you expect?
Adoration
Member
As I read yet another day of this endless debate.... this question comes to mind.
I do not mean to judge anyone... or even belittle the real concerns that have been birthed from all this mess...
Covid has blindsided the world... and all communities have been affected.... many have lost their jobs... their small businesses and even their homes... and that does not even begin to cover the effect on mental health.
For almost two years now... I have "felt" like I am watching a very LONG tennis match... back and forth... back and forth.
HOW much is too much?? When does this conversation end and a solution begin??
As Christians... we are called to be set apart.... I am not seeing the set apart stuff yet... I am seeing division... and more division...
When comes the time where we ACCEPT that the world is EVIL... with many AGENDAS playing out all at the same time.. ( just like Pinky and the Brain ). This evil has been going on behind closed doors for CENTURIES... and we don't even know the half of it.
WHAT is the SOLUTION??? What are Christians supposed to be doing at this time??? ( besides complaining that their rights have been taken... and that the world is falling apart )
How are we supposed to be preparing and living our lives at this time?? What does this all mean??
Those are my thoughts about all this stuff lately.... I never did jump on the bandwagon... NONE of the "sides" were of interest to me... I have chosen to simply work on my relationship with God... It's been a summer of GREAT JOY for me... One that I will NEVER forget because of the GRATITUDE that overflowed within me. It seems that for me ... this new found GRATITUDE has been what has kissed my heart with such HOPE.... that no matter what is happening around me... that I am BLESSED.
Didn't quite know where I should put this little diddly. Addy's random thought for a cold November morning.
I do not mean to judge anyone... or even belittle the real concerns that have been birthed from all this mess...
Covid has blindsided the world... and all communities have been affected.... many have lost their jobs... their small businesses and even their homes... and that does not even begin to cover the effect on mental health.
For almost two years now... I have "felt" like I am watching a very LONG tennis match... back and forth... back and forth.
HOW much is too much?? When does this conversation end and a solution begin??
As Christians... we are called to be set apart.... I am not seeing the set apart stuff yet... I am seeing division... and more division...
When comes the time where we ACCEPT that the world is EVIL... with many AGENDAS playing out all at the same time.. ( just like Pinky and the Brain ). This evil has been going on behind closed doors for CENTURIES... and we don't even know the half of it.
WHAT is the SOLUTION??? What are Christians supposed to be doing at this time??? ( besides complaining that their rights have been taken... and that the world is falling apart )
How are we supposed to be preparing and living our lives at this time?? What does this all mean??
Those are my thoughts about all this stuff lately.... I never did jump on the bandwagon... NONE of the "sides" were of interest to me... I have chosen to simply work on my relationship with God... It's been a summer of GREAT JOY for me... One that I will NEVER forget because of the GRATITUDE that overflowed within me. It seems that for me ... this new found GRATITUDE has been what has kissed my heart with such HOPE.... that no matter what is happening around me... that I am BLESSED.
Didn't quite know where I should put this little diddly. Addy's random thought for a cold November morning.
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Paranoia - Of any population group maybe 20% will always be distrusting and paranoid, especially if they have no other way of telling truth from fiction, or risk from safety.
The covid vaccine is unbelievably safe. Now one year in, 100's of millions of people vaccinated and disease peaks stopped, a great success. And all possible because no RNA replication technology only developed recently. Stunning.
Anyone who wants to argue this is about control, is nuts. The whole of western democracy and science is based on putting forward a strategy, showing how it will work, and when its worked, using that as proof it was the right thing to do.
The problem is this strategy could also be used by dictators, extreme groups as an excuse to exploit others.
And one way to exploit it, is to defame innocent actors and groups as corrupt dictators wishing to kill and destroy the world as QAnon has done. And what to me is truly sad is how many christians have signed up to this junk, this evil, this slander and worst accusations you could make against anyone as truth.
We are commanded to think the best of everyone, to concentrate on that which is uplifting and worthy behaviour.
Slander, making up false accusations against others is sinful behaviour.
"You shall not give false testimony against your neighbour." Exodus 20:16
What is staggering is how many were prepared to listen to Trump and his suggestions the election was fraudulent.
Two examples strike me as clear. Dead people were on the electoral role, but no indication any votes were counted against them. The scanning machines did sometimes fail, but correction procedures were in place. Upon detailed investigations, no fraud has been found. Why on earth should a liar like Trump be more authorative than people employed to check everything is ok? Trumps advisors lied about everything for affect from the beginning so are the last ones to believe, yet he is the author of truth, and innocent people doing their jobs well and righteously are liars.
It suggests to me those who often claim the name of following Jesus do not know Him at all.
Sadly also the back lash against believers could well be quite sever.
The covid vaccine is unbelievably safe. Now one year in, 100's of millions of people vaccinated and disease peaks stopped, a great success. And all possible because no RNA replication technology only developed recently. Stunning.
Anyone who wants to argue this is about control, is nuts. The whole of western democracy and science is based on putting forward a strategy, showing how it will work, and when its worked, using that as proof it was the right thing to do.
The problem is this strategy could also be used by dictators, extreme groups as an excuse to exploit others.
And one way to exploit it, is to defame innocent actors and groups as corrupt dictators wishing to kill and destroy the world as QAnon has done. And what to me is truly sad is how many christians have signed up to this junk, this evil, this slander and worst accusations you could make against anyone as truth.
We are commanded to think the best of everyone, to concentrate on that which is uplifting and worthy behaviour.
Slander, making up false accusations against others is sinful behaviour.
"You shall not give false testimony against your neighbour." Exodus 20:16
What is staggering is how many were prepared to listen to Trump and his suggestions the election was fraudulent.
Two examples strike me as clear. Dead people were on the electoral role, but no indication any votes were counted against them. The scanning machines did sometimes fail, but correction procedures were in place. Upon detailed investigations, no fraud has been found. Why on earth should a liar like Trump be more authorative than people employed to check everything is ok? Trumps advisors lied about everything for affect from the beginning so are the last ones to believe, yet he is the author of truth, and innocent people doing their jobs well and righteously are liars.
It suggests to me those who often claim the name of following Jesus do not know Him at all.
Sadly also the back lash against believers could well be quite sever.
Adoration
Member
I don't think it's quite that simple... I have been watching on the outside looking in... due to the fact that I live as a recluse.
Many of these people are leaders in the church... who chose to take the stand against the mandates set forth...
I do see a connection in America with Trump and the election... and I'm not quite certain what that connection is... but it led to a serious mistrust... and many of the evangelical Christians have gone on the side of FIGHTING for their rights... as well as labelling the whole pandemic as a "plandemic". It's a phenomenon that has become a mind-set.
Here in Canada... many pastors took a stand to go against the government mandates.. and it caused a huge divide.
It's very interesting to me to see how this has played out.
I have NOT been vaccinated due to my lifestyle... I am good with that... I accept that this means I am OUT of society ( for lack of a better word )... My daughter has been vaccinated... I am good with that... and my question is simply... WHY did it go this way??? Why could this just not have been an issue of CHOICE rather than what it became?
jasonc
Member
I was going to not comment .while I don't buy the plandemic.to assume that a beaurcrats cares in all case is to not actually have to beg,sue them for legal promises of money to be received .
I quote the local vso
As you a vet know the game ,the government shafted you,to get yours you must return the favor.
The army treats it's soldiers as whores loves them while young and sexy ,discards them once old and sick.this applies in many areas of the government
I quote the local vso
As you a vet know the game ,the government shafted you,to get yours you must return the favor.
The army treats it's soldiers as whores loves them while young and sexy ,discards them once old and sick.this applies in many areas of the government
Exactly. The actions of many Christians and “Christians” during the U.S. elections and pandemic are short-sighted and worldly oriented, having the potential to cause actual persecution. Persecution should come only because of the gospel and upholding biblical truth, not because of ungodly Christian behaviour.
Adoration
Member
I think you and I have a similar belief here... Not sure why I am shocked about that ... but I am. LOL
I don't believe anyone can make this claim unrefutably. I do not believe due diligence and proper testing and follow-up analysis has been thoroughly and completely finished to provide reasonable assurance to this end and we are taking chances in light of the current pandemic situation. In other words, we are forgoing needed and trusted processes in the hope that the actions taken will prove to be good in the end. For the sake of everyone I hope and pray I am wrong.