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Is the vaccine effective?

Is the vaccine effective?

  • Yes

    Votes: 20 54.1%
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    Votes: 6 16.2%
  • Better than none

    Votes: 2 5.4%
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    Votes: 8 21.6%
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    Votes: 1 2.7%

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Exactly. The actions of many Christians and “Christians” during the U.S. elections and pandemic are short-sighted and worldly oriented, having the potential to cause actual persecution. Persecution should come only because of the gospel and upholding biblical truth, not because of ungodly Christian behaviour.
So why not have vaccine passports permanently not hep a ,b and yellow fever in liberal bastions because of the states that allow homeless to simply crap in the road and set up camp .typhus and hepatitis are local pandemics .see where that goes?
 
I don't believe anyone can make this claim unrefutably. I do not believe due diligence and proper testing and follow-up analysis has been thoroughly and completely finished to provide reasonable assurance to this end and we are taking chances in light of the current pandemic situation. In other words, we are forgoing needed and trusted processes in the hope that the actions taken will prove to be good in the end. For the sake of everyone I hope and pray I am wrong.
I do also AGREE with this assessment.
 
and I do think that is crux of the matter.... BOTH sides of this argument STARTED arguing before due time in which any FACTUAL information could be presented... and it has left a very bad taste in many a mouth.

I don't believe anything that ANYONE says... therefore I must trust that the PERSONAL decisions that I make for myself are between me and GOD.... and I think this is how this whole thing should have played out...

PEOPLE... Dearly BELOVED Children of the MOST HIGH GOD.... Pray... and ask Father what the BEST solution is for you and your families.... GOD will CARE for you DESPITE and INSPITE of whatever choice you have made.

This to me is what was SEVERELY lacking during this process for Christians... Instead of coming together as church communities SEEKING prayer and solution.... the FIGHT BEGAN before the horses got out of the gate...

I believe Trump caused A LOT of problems with his nasty rhetoric regarding things... and it started a trend.

Anyways... It was nice to have a healthy discussion for once.
 
It was before Trump

Hand ups don't shoot,they cling to their religion and guns,and deplorables. All said about those that vote conservative ,the first one is a lie .the defamation against a teen whom cnn lost millions in court to. The media is hard to trust
You can't tell the blacks and Hispanics to not trust the cops then obey them for mask and vaccine mandates in the same breath and expect the others to not see that idiotic statement
 
That could very well be true.... I never paid attention to world politics BEFORE this time... so... my assessment comes from what I have seen and witnessed.
I havev voted since 2006. The hacks spin stories to make it look to their view .

I was at a clinic or somewhere and the county out signs up about the hepatitis endemic here .get your shots .

That is very contagious .
 
So why not have vaccine passports permanently not hep a ,b and yellow fever in liberal bastions because of the states that allow homeless to simply crap in the road and set up camp .typhus and hepatitis are local pandemics .see where that goes?
There have been permanent vaccine “passports” for a long time, they’re called vaccine records. Wanting to go to certain countries overseas requires certain vaccinations to keep the person safe and prevent the possibility of them bringing something back. Very few people have a problem with that and I can all but guarantee that the anti-COVID-vaxxers wouldn’t hesitate to get vaxxed to go travel somewhere “exotic”. Having to have a vaccine record to move around locally is no different when there is a real danger from a virus.

That some think this is a “plandemic” and the vaccines contain microchips, liquid computers, graphene, or other nonsense, defies logic. The best way to do all that would have been to add such things to existing vaccines so no one would even be suspicious. To have supposedly done so with a new virus and health restrictions automatically feeds the conspiracy mind and raises suspicions. It shows that such people have not at all thought through the implications of what they believe.
 
That some think this is a “plandemic” and the vaccines contain microchips, liquid computers, graphene, or other nonsense, defies logic. The best way to do all that would have been to add such things to existing vaccines so no one would even be suspicious. To have supposedly done so with a new virus and health restrictions automatically feeds the conspiracy mind and raises suspicions. It shows that such people have not at all thought through the implications of what they believe.
Pack mentality... It's all the rage these days... LOL
 
There have been permanent vaccine “passports” for a long time, they’re called vaccine records. Wanting to go to certain countries overseas requires certain vaccinations to keep the person safe and prevent the possibility of them bringing something back. Very few people have a problem with that and I can all but guarantee that the anti-COVID-vaxxers wouldn’t hesitate to get vaxxed to go travel somewhere “exotic”. Having to have a vaccine record to move around locally is no different when there is a real danger from a virus.

That some think this is a “plandemic” and the vaccines contain microchips, liquid computers, graphene, or other nonsense, defies logic. The best way to do all that would have been to add such things to existing vaccines so no one would even be suspicious. To have supposedly done so with a new virus and health restrictions automatically feeds the conspiracy mind and raises suspicions. It shows that such people have not at all thought through the implications of what they believe.
You don't have carry them from state to state ,to get gas ,when I visited your country twice in no case was I ever asked in 1992,or 2004 to present a vaccine card .I spent hours in both spot .

Once in Vancouver and once in new foundland.customs officers are gonna ask for it .all the Canadians one did was where ya going ,fruits . The u.s the same .no canadian was asked at the return to present them to America

My state gets a ton of Canadians who drive here . I work with a few who visit .

You might want to rethink your nanny state love . Why not have breathalyzers in cars.i don't drink .never got drunk .never will .

You don't know ,we have yellow fever,duengue outbreaks and scarlet and a ton of mosquito born illness as they are vectors not once since 2000 can I recall any vaccine passports .
 

Out break in Miami .
I work a route called mosquito alley ,and yes they are that bad at times . My county led the research on mosquito born illness prevention .Walter Reed visited my county area called Brevard during the yellow fever pandemics and suggested to kill their breeding grounds .

I live near a mosquito research facility .near it a marsh .not a confidence that faculty tests for mosquito born ailments and plagues
 

Acute increase ,Pasco county is near Tampa . Yet no one suggested adults outside of a job , military requirements or exposure get a jab

I have both a and b military and job requirements.

I didn't have to present my vaccine card to travel out state
 

Yellow fever I have had that shot .my wife hasn't ,most won't .

How many Canadians travel to my state to visit Orlando .the Kissimmee river and it's lakes and lake o my state and the marshes are all connected to and part of the everglades .I visit Okeechobee often and did so yesterday .
 
Can't drink beer.
Can't eat fatty foods etc
There is no such laws here from where I live... I know some of the Indian reserves are DRY ( no liquor sold or allowed on the reserve )... but I have never heard of such a thing..

The safety helmet is the same as the seat belts... those laws have been in place for many years.
 
I didn't have to present my vaccine card to travel out state
I think the point here is that we are IN the middle of this pandemic... It's active and alive NOW...
The shots/vaccines that you speak of are NOT in pandemic proportions at this time... thus not
needed for anything other than proof for schools and travel abroad.
 
There is no such laws here from where I live... I know some of the Indian reserves are DRY ( no liquor sold or allowed on the reserve )... but I have never heard of such a thing..

The safety helmet is the same as the seat belts... those laws have been in place for many years.
You aren't made to wear a bike Hemet on Florida and a few states ,cops are exempt from seat belt laws as are certain jobs
 
I think the point here is that we are IN the middle of this pandemic... It's active and alive NOW...
The shots/vaccines that you speak of are NOT in pandemic proportions at this time... thus not
needed for anything other than proof for schools and travel abroad.
They are you don't live where it happens .

I have heard the county warningd
 
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