John MacArthur: Distinguished Calvinist Preacher.

At the time of regeneration, baptized in Christ and baptized in the Holy Spirit the same thing.

That’s not what the scriptures teach.

Now when the apostles who were at Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent Peter and John to them, who, when they had come down, prayed for them that they might receive the Holy Spirit. For as yet He had fallen upon none of them. They had only been baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. Then they laid hands on them, and they received the Holy Spirit.
Acts 8:14-17


  • Then they laid hands on them, and they received the Holy Spirit.

There are three distinct and different baptisms with three distinct and different baptizers.

  • We are baptized into Christ by the Holy Spirit. (Regeneration)

For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body—whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free—and have all been made to drink into one Spirit. 1 Corinthians 12:13

  • We are baptized in water by man.

I indeed baptized you with water, but He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit.” Mark 1:8

  • We are baptized with the Holy Spirit by Jesus Christ.





JLB
 
How do you understand the more challenging scriptures?

How do you know why any of the books of the Bible were written, what was going on at the time of writing (background and history)?

Grace and peace to you.

If you have a scripture you want to discuss, then post it and make your point.
 
How do you know why any of the books of the Bible were written, what was going on at the time of writing (background and history)?


What scripture do we go to to find out your question?
 
What scripture do we go to to find out your question?

2 Timothy 2:15


Biblical hermeneutics is the study of the principles and methods of interpreting the text of the Bible. Second Timothy 2:15 commands believers to be involved in hermeneutics: “Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a worker who . . . correctly handles the word of truth.” The purpose of biblical hermeneutics is to help us to know how to properly interpret, understand, and apply the Bible.

The most important law of biblical hermeneutics is that the Bible should be interpreted literally. We are to understand the Bible in its normal or plain meaning, unless the passage is obviously intended to be symbolic or if figures of speech are employed. The Bible says what it means and means what it says. For example, when Jesus speaks of having fed “the five thousand” in Mark 8:19, the law of hermeneutics says we should understand five thousand literally—there was a crowd of hungry people that numbered five thousand who were fed with real bread and fish by a miracle-working Savior. Any attempt to “spiritualize” the number or to deny a literal miracle is to do injustice to the text and ignore the purpose of language, which is to communicate. Some interpreters make the mistake of trying to read between the lines of Scripture to come up with esoteric meanings that are not truly in the text, as if every passage has a hidden spiritual truth that we should seek to decrypt. Biblical hermeneutics keeps us faithful to the intended meaning of Scripture and away from allegorizing Bible verses that should be understood literally.

A second crucial law of biblical hermeneutics is that passages must be interpreted historically, grammatically, and contextually. Interpreting a passage historically means we must seek to understand the culture, background, and situation that prompted the text. For example, in order to fully understand Jonah’s flight in Jonah 1:1–3, we should research the history of the Assyrians as related to Israel. Interpreting a passage grammatically requires one to follow the rules of grammar and recognize the nuances of Hebrew and Greek. For example, when Paul writes of “our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ” in Titus 2:13, the rules of grammar state that God and Savior are parallel terms and they are both in apposition to Jesus Christ—in other words, Paul clearly calls Jesus “our great God.” Interpreting a passage contextually involves considering the context of a verse or passage when trying to determine the meaning. The context includes the verses immediately preceding and following, the chapter, the book, and, most broadly, the entire Bible. For example, many puzzling statements in Ecclesiastes become clearer when kept in context—the book of Ecclesiastes is written from the earthly perspective “under the sun” (Ecclesiastes 1:3). In fact, the phrase under the sun is repeated about thirty times in the book, establishing the context for all that is “vanity” in this world.

A third law of biblical hermeneutics is that Scripture is always the best interpreter of Scripture. For this reason, we always compare Scripture with Scripture when trying to determine the meaning of a passage. For example, Isaiah’s condemnation of Judah’s desire to seek Egypt’s help and their reliance on a strong cavalry (Isaiah 31:1) was motivated, in part, by God’s explicit command that His people not go to Egypt to seek horses (Deuteronomy 17:16).

Some people avoid studying biblical hermeneutics because they mistakenly believe it will limit their ability to learn new truths from God’s Word or stifle the Holy Spirit’s illumination of Scripture. But their fears are unfounded. Biblical hermeneutics is all about finding the correct interpretation of the inspired text. The purpose of biblical hermeneutics is to protect us from misapplying Scripture or allowing bias to color our understanding of truth. God’s Word is truth (John 17:17). We want to see the truth, know the truth, and live the truth as best we can, and that’s why biblical hermeneutics is vital.

 
2 Timothy 2:15




Be diligent to present yourself approved to God, a worker who does not need to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
2 Timothy 2:15


This says we are to rightly divide the word of truth.

A reference to the scriptures.

Here was your question —

How do you know why any of the books of the Bible were written


The answer: as to why the books of the Bible were written —


But you must continue in the things which you have learned and been assured of, knowing from whom you have learned them, and that from childhood you have known the Holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work. 2 Timothy 3:14-15


  • All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.


  • that from childhood you have known the Holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.




JLB
 
Be diligent to present yourself approved to God, a worker who does not need to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
2 Timothy 2:15


This says we are to rightly divide the word of truth.

A reference to the scriptures.

Here was your question —




The answer: as to why the books of the Bible were written —


But you must continue in the things which you have learned and been assured of, knowing from whom you have learned them, and that from childhood you have known the Holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work. 2 Timothy 3:14-15


  • All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.


  • that from childhood you have known the Holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.




JLB
2 Timothy 4:13 When you come bring the cloak which I left at Troas with Carpus, and the scrolls, especially the parchments.

Charles Spurgeon’s comments

We do not know what the books were about, and we can only form some guess as to what the parchments were. Paul had a few books which were left, perhaps wrapped up in the cloak, and Timothy was to be careful to bring them. Even an apostle must read. . . . A man who comes up into the pulpit, professes to take his text on the spot, and talks any quantity of nonsense, is the idol of many. If he will speak without premeditation, or pretend to do so, and never produce what they call a dish of dead men’s brains—oh! that is the preacher. How rebuked are they by the apostle!

He is inspired, and yet he wants books!

He has been preaching at least for thirty years, and yet he wants books!

He had seen the Lord, and yet he wants books!

He had had a wider experience than most men, and yet he wants books!

He had been caught up into the third heaven, and had heard things which it was unlawful for a men to utter, yet he wants books!

He had written the major part of the New Testament, and yet he wants books!

The apostle says to Timothy and so he says to every preacher, “Give thyself unto reading.” The man who never reads will never be read; he who never quotes will never be quoted. He who will not use the thoughts of other men’s brains, proves that he has no brains of his own.

Brethren, what is true of ministers is true of all our people. You need to read. Renounce as much as you will all light literature, but study as much as possible sound theological works, especially the Puritanic writers, and expositions of the Bible. We are quite persuaded that the very best way for you to be spending your leisure, is to be either reading or praying. You may get much instruction from books which afterwards you may use as a true weapon in your Lord and Master’s service.
 
2 Timothy 4:13 When you come bring the cloak which I left at Troas with Carpus, and the scrolls, especially the parchments.
If you trust whatever books you're speaking of above, which we don't really know what they are,
Then you should surely pay attention to the early church fathers, whose writings we Do have and which do not agree with your faith system.
The only one you can agree with is Augustine,
A former gnostic and 400 years after Jesus.
 
2 Timothy 4:13 When you come bring the cloak which I left at Troas with Carpus, and the scrolls, especially the parchments.
I get that .I find time can fly when I escape into old history .

How more so with the theology exposition?
 
Do you mean systematic theology?
Any book on solid theology .
While certainly not the Bible ,but we'll sermons from the pastor are based on his views of the bible .

I once was like jlb but I noticed that certain parts of the bible are strange and sought answers (eschatology) and then it lead me to the Torah and that too isn't easy as they both have richness.there is more to Moses then the the ten commandments and pharaoh.
 
Any book on solid theology .
While certainly not the Bible ,but we'll sermons from the pastor are based on his views of the bible .

I once was like jlb but I noticed that certain parts of the bible are strange and sought answers (eschatology) and then it lead me to the Torah and that too isn't easy as they both have richness.there is more to Moses then the the ten commandments and pharaoh.
I agree with you. There are many Christians who will not read anything outside of the Bible, they believe the Holy Spirit will teach them and that is all that is needed. That is wrong thinking and pride can influence anyone's thought process on the Scriptures. This is how cult leaders get started and false teachings.

I need to study and be taught by men of God. We are human and learn by repetition.

Acts 8:30-31 And Philip ran up and heard him reading Isaiah the prophet, and said, “Do you understand what you are reading?” 31 And he said, “Well, how could I, unless someone guides me?” And he invited Philip to come up and sit with him.

Someone will be along soon to tell me I am wrong (sarcasm)

Grace and peace to you.
 
I agree with you. There are many Christians who will not read anything outside of the Bible, they believe the Holy Spirit will teach them and that is all that is needed. That is wrong thinking and pride can influence anyone's thought process on the Scriptures. This is how cult leaders get started and false teachings.

I need to study and be taught by men of God. We are human and learn by repetition.

Acts 8:30-31 And Philip ran up and heard him reading Isaiah the prophet, and said, “Do you understand what you are reading?” 31 And he said, “Well, how could I, unless someone guides me?” And he invited Philip to come up and sit with him.

Someone will be along soon to tell me I am wrong (sarcasm)

Grace and peace to you.
If you follow the teaching and the leading of the Holy Spirit , how would this create a problem ?

John14
26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

The eunuch from Ethiopia did not yet have the Holy Spirit inside him to guide him so he asked Philip a Christian who did have the Holy Spirit to provide help with understanding the scripture .
 
If you only follow the teaching and the leading of the Holy Spirit , how would this create a problem ?

John14
26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

The eunuch from Ethiopia did not yet have the Holy Spirit inside him to guide him so he asked Philip a Christian who did have the Holy Spirit to provide help with understanding the scripture .
If you only follow the teaching and the leading of the Holy Spirit , how would this create a problem ?

How do you know its the Holy Spirit? Does He talk to you?

Grace and peace to you.
 
How do you know its the Holy Spirit? Does He talk to you?

Grace and peace to you.
Hasn't the Holy Spirit at times prompted you on a bible scripture you need at times during your day to day activities ?
The Holy Spirit brings it to your mind in an instant without any real thinking on your part .
 
Hasn't the Holy Spirit at times prompted you on a bible scripture you need at times during your day to day activities ?
The Holy Spirit brings it to your mind in an instant without any real thinking on your part .
Agreed, but not verbally talking to me.
 
Agreed, but not verbally talking to me.
It is not a common occurrence that it is verbal for me .
A lot of the time it is like a bible verse just pops into my mind for the situation , is it like that for you ?
 
It is not a common occurrence that it is verbal for me .
A lot of the time it is like a bible verse just pops into my mind for the situation , is it like that for you ?
Yes, most definitely. Or I may be reading the Bible and a verse that correlates to what I am reading will jump in my mind.

Happens in prayer as well.

Grace and peace to you.
 
I agree with you. There are many Christians who will not read anything outside of the Bible, they believe the Holy Spirit will teach them and that is all that is needed. That is wrong thinking and pride can influence anyone's thought process on the Scriptures. This is how cult leaders get started and false teachings.

I need to study and be taught by men of God. We are human and learn by repetition.

Acts 8:30-31 And Philip ran up and heard him reading Isaiah the prophet, and said, “Do you understand what you are reading?” 31 And he said, “Well, how could I, unless someone guides me?” And he invited Philip to come up and sit with him.

Someone will be along soon to tell me I am wrong (sarcasm)

Grace and peace to you.
I see this same mistaken attitude on several message boards
 
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