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  1. TimothyW

    Eternal damnation

    Whatever. You can't show the verse, therefore it doesn't exist. You bluff has been called, you lose the hand. Ante up for the next round.
  2. TimothyW

    Eternal damnation

    Show the verse where Jesus says the wicked will go to hell where they will experience eternal conscious torment. I have been through the gospels many times and Jesus NEVER says that. If you would just show me the verse you think says that, I won't HAVE to believe you, I will see it for myself...
  3. TimothyW

    Eternal damnation

    Thanks Tim. It is plainly obvious that there is no verse in the gospels that has Jesus saying that the wicked will be eternally tormented in hell. If there was such a verse, at least ONE of these good Bible scholars would have produced it. The other reason I know that there is no such verse in...
  4. TimothyW

    Eternal damnation

    If there was such a verse you would have posted by now. You aren't fooling anyone. Now is the the time to post or get off the can. Which verse? Which verse?
  5. TimothyW

    Eternal damnation

    You haven't shown even ONE (1) Verse where Jesus said that the wicked will experience eternal torment. This is because there is no such verse. I think you know this.
  6. TimothyW

    Eternal damnation

    I don't need to argue with you. If Jesus actually said that there was to be eternal conscious torment in hell you would have posted the verses already instead of just making mouth noises. Jesus said that the way is wide that leads to destruction. I believe HIM. That is enough. You can go now.
  7. TimothyW

    Eternal damnation

    Jesus absolutely did not say that there was to be eternal conscious torment in hell, and I think that you know that He never said that.
  8. TimothyW

    Eternal damnation

    Oh? Where did Jesus say that there was to be eternal conscious torment in hell? Please be specific. Jesus said that the road is wide that leads to destruction. Do you know more that He knows?
  9. TimothyW

    Eternal damnation

    I don't think that believing God's truth is a matter of picking and choosing. Since God says there is a second death, why on earth do you not believe that there really IS a second death? A death where the wicked die permanently after having been resurrected from their first death for judgment...
  10. TimothyW

    Eternal damnation

    I still wonder about that. The Bible says that the wages of sin is death. I don't know why people prefer to believe that the wages of sin is eternal torment.
  11. TimothyW

    Eternal damnation

    A lot of people are questioning the traditional view of hell. The traditional view is that hell consists of eternal conscious torment. When I read the Bible, I do not see adequate proof of eternal conscience torment (ECT). I see passages like John 3:16 that say that those who reject God will...
  12. TimothyW

    Bible Study Is Matthew 28:19 a scribal addition?

    Hi John, This is an interesting question. The passage seems to read much more smoothly without the section from "baptizing" to "ghost". Here is the passage with the phrase taken out: Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And...
  13. TimothyW

    Is it Wrong to Think About Hell All the Time?

    :thumb
  14. TimothyW

    Is it Wrong to Think About Hell All the Time?

    rofl
  15. TimothyW

    Is it Wrong to Think About Hell All the Time?

    You're mistaken. Jesus said exactly what I am saying, which is why I believe it. Jesus said "the gate is wide that leads to destruction" and "fear the one who is able to destroy both body and soul".
  16. TimothyW

    Is it Wrong to Think About Hell All the Time?

    Those verses do not say "People send themselves to hell". Look at them yourself. Hell is not even in the verses you quoted. Please do not be divisive. Please do not be divisive.
  17. TimothyW

    Is it Wrong to Think About Hell All the Time?

    Don't forget that the gnashing of teeth and all of the weeping is followed by destruction in the furnace. Perhaps that it why Jesus never said how long the wicked will be gnashing before they are destroyed??? I don't "take misguided comfort out of believing that the weeping lasts only for a...
  18. TimothyW

    Is it Wrong to Think About Hell All the Time?

    He says "eternal" fire. He didn't say "non-destroying" fire. The eternal fire consumes whatever is put into it. The destruction of Sodom is an example of something that has been destroyed by eternal fire, and the Bible says that is an example of the coming destruction of the wicked on the day of...
  19. TimothyW

    Is it Wrong to Think About Hell All the Time?

    What do you think the fire does? What kind of fire doesn't burn up what is put into it? Why do you assume that the fire doesn't burn? Why do you ignore all of the passages that say that the wicked will be destroyed? Why do you think that saying they will go into fire proves that they won't be...
  20. TimothyW

    Is it Wrong to Think About Hell All the Time?

    My point always was that "People send themselves to hell" is not written anywhere in the Bible. And It Is Not. Period. End of Story.
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