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  1. OzSpen

    Talk Doc Heiser thread

    Wondering, Unfortunately I do not know the praises you have given me about Dr. Heiser. I lived not far from his abode in Washington State when I studied for my BA in Kirkland WA. Please tell me more about Dr. Heiser. His bibliography reads like he was a clever man whom God used. My first book...
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    Question about Bible Version....

    You've changed the topic, so you've committed a red herring logical fallacy. Oz
  3. OzSpen

    Question about Bible Version....

    TES, Its because of the grammatical rule that a noun or pronoun must agree with its antecedent in gender, number and case. In this case, "they" is plural "one person" is singular. Using the historical use of the wrong gender, commits a genetic logical fallacy. Oz
  4. OzSpen

    Question about Bible Version....

    That doesn't make it correct English grammar!
  5. OzSpen

    Question about Bible Version....

    That doesn't make the English correct in agreement of the cases.
  6. OzSpen

    Question about Bible Version....

    T.E. The translation, "each one ought to examine themselves" runs into the problem that the subject is singular, "each one," and the referrant, "themselves," is plural. Technically, the correct translation should be, "each one ought to examine himself or herself," but that is clumsy. Therefore...
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    Question about Bible Version....

    D-D-W, However, that does not make the "man" use correct when it is the generic for men and women (based on context). Oz
  8. OzSpen

    Question about Bible Version....

    Louis, The NIV is a dynamic equivalance translation (meaning-for-meaning) instead of a formal equivalence translation (i.e. word-for-word). The NIV will change "man" to someone if that is the meaning in context. The NIV is not a PC translation by a dynamic equivalence. So if adelphoi is used...
  9. OzSpen

    Why the Church Gathering Has Changed

    andy, What are you and I doing to teach the biblical way of gathering, in our own churches? I have little opportunity to do that as I'm not in the leadership team. It's a frustrating experience. Oz
  10. OzSpen

    Why the Church Gathering Has Changed

    Andy, Can it function at its optimal best in the current congregational worship with one-person as preacher and exercising his spiritual gift as preacher-teacher? Oz
  11. OzSpen

    Why the Church Gathering Has Changed

    FHG, That's my understanding of how the spiritual gifts work and their purpose for the body of Christ. Oz Andy, Would the priesthood of all believers function best in a house church? I've only been to one house church in my region and there was so much chaos with people falling over and...
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    Why the Church Gathering Has Changed

    FHG, That's my understanding of how the spiritual gifts work and their purpose for the body of Christ. Oz
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    Why the Church Gathering Has Changed

    Pentecostal is the correct spelling.
  14. OzSpen

    Why the Church Gathering Has Changed

    FHG, If I relied on my feelings of the Holy Spirit, I would not attend most church services. My Christian experience does not run on feelings. It is based on my relationship with the Lord Jesus. Oz
  15. OzSpen

    Why the Church Gathering Has Changed

    Please stick with the content of 1 Cor 14:26 (NIV): "What then shall we say, brothers and sisters? When you come together, each of you has a hymn, or a word of instruction, a revelation, a tongue or an interpretation. Everything must be done so that the church may be built up." It does not...
  16. OzSpen

    Why the Church Gathering Has Changed

    It didn't take many posts to move away from the intent of the OP. I'm asking: "Why is 1 Cor 14:26 (NIV) being violated in many/most of today's churches?" Every-person ministry is the model Paul taught. Oz
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    Why the Church Gathering Has Changed

    It really is Justin's comments are out of line with Paul's teaching in 1 Cor 14:26 (NIV). Oz
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    Why the Church Gathering Has Changed

    The early church was raised in this teaching: "What then shall we say, brothers and sisters? When you come together, each of you has a hymn, or a word of instruction, a revelation, a tongue or an interpretation. Everything must be done so that the church may be built up" (1 Cor 14:26 NIV). The...
  19. OzSpen

    How to approach reading the Bible in its entirety?

    Don't overlook the possibility the reader could encounter Jesus through reading the Bible 100 times.
  20. OzSpen

    Describing Evangelicals

    Niblo, Excellent explanation. I was reading D A Carson's commentary on The Gospel According to John (IVP UK/Eerdmans USA 1991) and he wrote that "born of water and the Spirit" has 3 factors in the interpretation: (1) The expression is parallel to "from above" (v. 3) and so only one birth is in...
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