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  1. OzSpen

    God and chance

    Blade, “Time and chance” are not to be seen as above the powers and reign of God. We know this because they are things “under the sun,” under God’s control. This is indicated by the use of the singular verb, yikreh, which combines them into one compact idea, as in Isa 13:22 (judgment) and Ezek...
  2. OzSpen

    God and chance

    Excellent explanation. Oz
  3. OzSpen

    God and chance

    RevSRE, I consider that the biblical teaching is that God is absolutely sovereign and that sovereignty includes the free will decisions of human beings. This is a brief overview of God’s sovereign attributes: God is before all things (Ps 90:2; Col 1:17); All things were created by God (Jn...
  4. OzSpen

    God and chance

    Rev, I'm still struggling to understand how "any chance occurrence in the lives of people" can happen under the umbrella of the sovereign Lord. Can you help me to understand how these fit together in God's plan? Sovereignty and chance don't seem to be a good match. Oz
  5. OzSpen

    God and chance

    Since when did the Bible NOT support the writing of theology, even in one verse? Oz
  6. OzSpen

    Is believing/faith a work ?

    We are discussing the MEANING of the word and not the GRAMMAR of the word. Do you get it yet?
  7. OzSpen

    Is believing/faith a work ?

    You are not giving the meaning of pisteuō from a reliable source. We are NOT discussing whether it is a verb, noun, adjective or relative pronoun. We are discussing the MEANING of the word in a given context, considering the syntax of the sentence. Oz
  8. OzSpen

    Is believing/faith a work ?

    Roger, What is the "it" that is a gift of God according to Eph 2:8-9, based on the grammar? Oz
  9. OzSpen

    Is believing/faith a work ?

    No, the nouns are grace, faith and it. The grammar indicates "it" refers to the phrases "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves." "It" cannot refer to numerous things. it refers to the antecedent. Oz
  10. OzSpen

    Is believing/faith a work ?

    You've added to Scripture. What you said here is not in the Bible.
  11. OzSpen

    Is believing/faith a work ?

    The "it" is salvation. JLB, Why don't you accept God's gift of a teacher whom I quoted? You are denigrating God's gift. Why should I listen to you, a teacher, and not the teacher whom I quoted, one of the greatest Greek exegetes of all time, Dr A T Robertson? Oz
  12. OzSpen

    Is believing/faith a work ?

    "It" cannot refer to "grace" or "faith" as "it" is neuter gender and "grace" and "faith" are feminine gender. The nouns must agree with antecedents in gender, number and case. Oz
  13. OzSpen

    Is believing/faith a work ?

    I answered with an exegetical answer. If you don't believe me, please provide an exegetical answer to refute my answer. Bye, Oz
  14. OzSpen

    Is believing/faith a work ?

    JLB, You are not answering the exegesis I presented to you. What is the antecedent of "that" and what is its gender, number and case? Greek nouns, pronouns and relative pronouns agree with their antecedents in gender, number, and case. "That" is neuter and CANNOT refer back to the feminine...
  15. OzSpen

    Is believing/faith a work ?

    brightfame52, From where did you gain that meaning? Out of the mind of bf?? Bauer, Arndt & Gingrich's Greek Lexicon gives the meanings as: (a) "Believe in something, be convinced of something"; (b) With hoti, "believe that"; (c) "Believe concerning someone that"; (d) "I believe that he...
  16. OzSpen

    Is believing/faith a work ?

    JLB, To the contrary: Eph 2:8-9 (Got Questions). Dr Michael L Williams commentary on Eph 2:8-9 deals accurately with the Greek grammar: Grammatically, "that" cannot refer back to "faith" because of the genders of the words. Oz
  17. OzSpen

    Is believing/faith a work ?

    bf, Bible verses please! Oz
  18. OzSpen

    what music are we listening to?

    evenif, I listen to this song over and over and am so encouraged by its being sung by Dottie Rambo and the Crabb Family, "Tears will never stain the streets of that city." Oz
  19. OzSpen

    God and chance

    Jason, Why don't you find the verse in Proverbs so we can discuss it? However, Ecclesiastes mentions "time and chance." What is the writer talking about? Oz
  20. OzSpen

    God and chance

    FHG, You didn't answer my question: Is God a God of time and chance? What does chance mean in Ecclesiastes? Oz
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