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  1. Nathan

    OSAS winning Christ? OSNAS just hanging on?

    God is eternal. Have you fall for the lie of Satan that you can be eternal like God? Genesis 3:4 (ESV) 4 But the serpent said to the woman, "You will not surely die.
  2. Nathan

    Saved by Grace Through Faith, Not by Works

    Do you believe those people are eternal like God?
  3. Nathan

    OSAS winning Christ? OSNAS just hanging on?

    Do you believe you are eternal like God?
  4. Nathan

    OSAS winning Christ? OSNAS just hanging on?

    Christ was crucified before the foundation of the world. I assure you, the horse is pulling the cart. Why do people who oppose what I say always find a way to try and discredit me? Why the personal attacks?
  5. Nathan

    God Is Soooo Out Of Touch

    Mockery of Who?
  6. Nathan

    OSAS winning Christ? OSNAS just hanging on?

    Does something which is dead mean it's alive? Does truth mean it can be false? How do you come to the conclusion that eternal can have a beginning? Seriously Cygnus, you are trying to redefine what words mean. If your going to redefine that eternal can have a beginning, are you also going to...
  7. Nathan

    Saved by Grace Through Faith, Not by Works

    When God gives His life we become alive, we know Him, we understand Him. What happens when people deny Gods eternal life? Can people retain Gods eternal life if they deny Him?
  8. Nathan

    OSAS winning Christ? OSNAS just hanging on?

    I do not understand. Do you believe you are eternal like God?
  9. Nathan

    OSAS winning Christ? OSNAS just hanging on?

    No one can take salvation with them. I think you are not reading what I post. I never said that. Yep. I misread your post. Sorry. Jesus is the eternal life. If a person leaves Him, they leave life. 1 John 5:20 (ESV) And we know that the Son of God has come and has given us understanding...
  10. Nathan

    OSAS winning Christ? OSNAS just hanging on?

    Your a false accuser. I never said I can do anything to "get unsaved". Does God say that no one can leave Him? If so, where? Does God warn people not to leave Him? Why? Do you believe you are eternal as God is?
  11. Nathan

    OSAS winning Christ? OSNAS just hanging on?

    The same can be said in reverse. You have not shown different from your side. No one can take salvation with them. I think you are not reading what I post. I never said that. If you want to have a serious discussion I'm still here. Maybe starting out with some questions can help. Can a...
  12. Nathan

    OSAS winning Christ? OSNAS just hanging on?

    God saves us in Christ. He does not force us to be saved, and He does not force us to remain. He wants us to, and has made a way. If a person decides they do not want salvation, which is freedom from sin, God does not force them to remain. Think of salvation as Gods house. He pays all the...
  13. Nathan

    OSAS winning Christ? OSNAS just hanging on?

    No, I do NOT believe it is my continual believing that keeps me saved. Only a foolish person would believe that. God saved me in Christ. Its a DONE DEAL. I believe this. It was NOT based on my belief. God saved every one of us in Christ - you either believe it or you deny it. I choose to...
  14. Nathan

    Saved by Grace Through Faith, Not by Works

    Eternal life, by definition, has no beginning or end. Eternal life does not 'begin' in us, it lives in us. Only God is eternal.
  15. Nathan

    OSAS winning Christ? OSNAS just hanging on?

    There should be a CLEAR distinction made between those who are weak in the faith, and those who flat out deny it. To be weak in the faith is one thing, and those are the ones who you find going back and forth between doubt and strong encouragement. This weakness can be overcome, and it is why...
  16. Nathan

    OSAS winning Christ? OSNAS just hanging on?

    Yes. If a person who has come to the knowledge of Jesus being the Son of God, dying in place for their sin, setting them free from sin - then they choose to deny His Salvation and be enslaved to sin, they will not return to Christ. Heb 6:4-6 For it is impossible, in the case of those who have...
  17. Nathan

    OSAS winning Christ? OSNAS just hanging on?

    That is not proof. That is an opinion. I have never minded conversing with people about this topic who actually want to discuss it, but it seems that some just want to put down others and never truly talk about the topic. Salvation is from God, it is with God, and cannot be had apart from God...
  18. Nathan

    OSAS winning Christ? OSNAS just hanging on?

    I am not going to respond to all of your different posts. I have the strong feeling you are trying to overwhelm me by flooding so many posts that say the same thing over and over. If you want to have an intelligible conversation about this, then I am all ears. I have provided support. This...
  19. Nathan

    THE UNFORGIVEN SIN

    I submit that He was separated from the Father because if He was not then we are still in our sins. Nothing can change the clear words of the prophecy concerning the body being in the grave and the soul being in Sheol. If someone chooses to believe other than what God declared through His...
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