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  1. Nathan

    Generator circuit breaker question...

    I'm not up to speed on motor home wiring, but in a building without wheels(lol) there is a transfer switch that disables the possibility of having the generator feed the panel at the same time 'normal' power is. Keeps the linemen safe during storms. :) I would think a motor home would have some...
  2. Nathan

    Are we born condemned with Adams sin...or innocent at birth?

    Hmmmmm, can Jesus be a Savior to someone who does not need saving? Do those 'innocent' children who die need a savior? Hmmmmmm, does death happen to that which contains no sin?
  3. Nathan

    Salvation

    Your ridicule is not lost on me. 1 John 3:10 By this it is evident who are the children of God, and who are the children of the devil: whoever does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor is the one who does not love his brother.
  4. Nathan

    OSAS winning Christ? OSNAS just hanging on?

    I think John is clear enough to say exactly what he meant to say. He is quite clear, those in Christ don't practice sin, those not in Christ are evident by what they do. Twisting what he says to fit a theology is the same as not believing what he says. 1 John 3 6 No one who abides in him...
  5. Nathan

    OSAS winning Christ? OSNAS just hanging on?

    John is explaining how we can know if a person is in Christ, or not in Christ. 1Jo 3:4-10 Everyone who makes a practice of sinning also practices lawlessness; sin is lawlessness. You know that he appeared in order to take away sins, and in him there is no sin. No one who abides in him keeps...
  6. Nathan

    OSAS winning Christ? OSNAS just hanging on?

    Notice what Paul says, "when you sin against your brothers IN THIS WAY....". He is stating that when someone puts a stumbling block in front of another brother, even if it is NOT sin to do it himself, he does sin against Christ because he is causing that brother to stumble - even if it is not...
  7. Nathan

    Salvation

    [edited] :) Peter actually said count the patience of our Lord as salvation, not count salvation as the patience of our Lord. There is a difference. Think of it this way, if I told my wife "I did the laundry today because of my love for you", she very doubtfully would believe that only...
  8. Nathan

    OSAS winning Christ? OSNAS just hanging on?

    I think that this is a common held belief, but is there Biblical support for it?
  9. Nathan

    OSAS winning Christ? OSNAS just hanging on?

    I don't make a practice of sinning, do you?
  10. Nathan

    OSAS winning Christ? OSNAS just hanging on?

    Cygnus, Do you make a practice of sinning?
  11. Nathan

    OSAS winning Christ? OSNAS just hanging on?

    No missunderstanding here. The verse is plain for all to see. Do you not believe what the verse says? 1Jo 3:8-9 Whoever makes a practice of sinning is of the devil, for the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the works of the devil. No...
  12. Nathan

    OSAS winning Christ? OSNAS just hanging on?

    No, some people do not even know about God - yet they sin willingly. Think about the example I gave you. Sometimes we do things that others want us to do - but it does not mean we are slaves to them. Sometimes we do it because we want to, sometimes we do it even when we don't want to, but it...
  13. Nathan

    OSAS winning Christ? OSNAS just hanging on?

    I am not sure if you have ever read this, but it may help you understand things better. 1Jo 3:9 No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God’s seed abides in him, and he cannot keep on sinning because he has been born of God.
  14. Nathan

    OSAS winning Christ? OSNAS just hanging on?

    Can someone serve two masters at one time? There is a difference between being a slave of something and doing something. Has someone ever asked you to do something and then you did it? Were you their slave?
  15. Nathan

    OSAS winning Christ? OSNAS just hanging on?

    Do you know what sin is? It is 'missing the mark'. There are intentional and unintentional sins. Can a person in Christ intentionally continue to sin? You still did not answer my question - where do you find that when we sin we are against Jesus?
  16. Nathan

    Salvation

    Yes to which question?
  17. Nathan

    OSAS winning Christ? OSNAS just hanging on?

    That is not true. My theology is based on Scripture, what is your statement based on? Where do we learn that every time we sin we are against Jesus? 1Jo 2:2 He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world. Heb 7:25 Consequently, he is...
  18. Nathan

    Salvation

    My intent was to find out what everyone else viewed salvation as. We have been having quite a few discussions on it, so I wanted to get a baseline for what people thought it was. I really did not intend to have a ongoing discussion about it, but rather just an idea of others beliefs. As far...
  19. Nathan

    "Believe" in the present tense

    I do have eternal life. It is Christ in me. It is not anymore complicated than that. If you would not cut out the clear teaching(which was included in my post you quoted) you would see that "our" life is Christ - not a life that is something we possess. You have yet to show that life is...
  20. Nathan

    Salvation

    What is the saving - that happened in the past? What is the "state" of salvation?
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