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  1. thethinker

    Why is there infant baptisim?

    th Circumcision was commanded to be put on the 8 day old infant BEFORE God founded Israel. Under the old covenant they were to have their hearts circumcised (Deuteronomy 10:16). Fact is, there is no explicit prohibition against putting the new covenant sign of baptism on our children. As...
  2. thethinker

    Did Jesus preach to people in hell?

    Hades was the grave of the SOUL. Hades was located in the deepest regions of the earth. Souls went to hades to await the resurrection.
  3. thethinker

    Why is there infant baptisim?

    Wasn't God taking away the so called "beautiful gift of free will" when He commanded that 8 day old infants be circumcised? Why didn't God let the child grow up to decide for himself if he wanted to be a member of the covenant community?
  4. thethinker

    The difference between the rapture and the second coming

    Jesus' legal status was through Joseph. Therefore, the curse applied to Jesus. He could NOT sit on the throne of David in Judea. But He did ascend to the throne of David in heaven (Acts 2:29-36). God exalted the throne of David to heaven as promised. 29 “Brothers, I may say to you with...
  5. thethinker

    The difference between the rapture and the second coming

    This is NOT proof that Zechariah 14 is Messianic. The LORD came to Mt. Sinai with His saints (Exodus 19; Deuterronomy 33). It talks about His "right hand" and the people sitting at His "feet." Zechariah 14 is about an old testament coming of YHWH. This is substantiated by the fact that the old...
  6. thethinker

    The difference between the rapture and the second coming

    Paul quoted Isaiah 45 which is about the saved. It says that every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess that in the Lord he has righteousness (Isaiah 45:23-24). It is every knee and every tongue of the saved that is in view. Paul said that the LAST enemy is to be destroyed at the...
  7. thethinker

    The difference between the rapture and the second coming

    God cursed Jeconiah The curse was that the sons of Jeconiah could not sit on the throne of David in Judah. Jesus sits on the throne of David in heaven (Acts 2:29-35). God exalted David's throne to heaven.
  8. thethinker

    The difference between the rapture and the second coming

    s First, this is NOT a new testament scripture. I asked for scriptures from the new testament. Second, Zechariah 14 is NOT a Messianic prophecy. It is about and old testament coming of YHWH. See my post #78 yesterday inwhich I said, Zechariah 14 is about and old testament coming of YHWH. It...
  9. thethinker

    The difference between the rapture and the second coming

    I just joined in and would rather not scroll back. And I am sure you have posted much on the subject. I am equally certain that you have posted NOTHING from the new testament which EXPLICITLY says that Christ is returning to the earth. No such explicit statement can be found.
  10. thethinker

    The difference between the rapture and the second coming

    For the future: "Be ready to give an answer to every man who asks you for a reason for the hope that is in you."
  11. thethinker

    The difference between the rapture and the second coming

    Zechariah 14 is about and old testament coming of YHWH. It is NOT Messianic at all. It is anthropomorphism. The exact same language is used whem YHWH came to Mt. Sinai to give the law. It says that He came to Mt. Sinai and the people "sat at His feet." What is your proof from the context that...
  12. thethinker

    The difference between the rapture and the second coming

    No! In Matthew 24 they see the Son of Man in the sky (24:30 NASB). This agrees with Paul who said that He descends to the clouds, and that His people meet Him in the air. So there is no coming to the earth. Paul said that the LAST enemy is destroyed at the resurrection. Last means last! The...
  13. thethinker

    The difference between the rapture and the second coming

    I am not interested in post 2. I am interested in 1 Corinthians 15. Paul said that the resurrection is the END. The LAST enemy (death) is destroyed at that time. Last means last.
  14. thethinker

    The difference between the rapture and the second coming

    No, there is NOT a distinction. The LAST enemy is destroyed at the resurrection. Death is the LAST enemy. Paul said this is the END.
  15. thethinker

    Creation-Evolution debate/Bill Nye versus Ken Ham (02-04-14)

    http://debatelive.org/?utm_source=debate-update-20140204-group&utm_medium=email&utm_content=body-link&utm_campaign=bill-nye-ken-ham-debate
  16. thethinker

    pre trib rapture a dangerous ploy to deceive

    The "end' is the end of the mediatoral kingdom. "Then comes the end when He may have delivered up the kingdom to the Father." At that time all Christ's enemies are destroyed (rendered powerless), and the eternal kingdom is ushered in. Paul uses no future tense verbs in his dissertation. Please...
  17. thethinker

    pre trib rapture a dangerous ploy to deceive

    I don't believe that Christ's enemies are destroyed before the millennium. I have publically denied that there is a millennium. It is the Premillennialists that believe that Paul's last trumpet is blown BEFORE the millennium. But if the last enemy is destroyed at the last trumpet, and if the...
  18. thethinker

    pre trib rapture a dangerous ploy to deceive

    On what do you base your assertion that Jesus "will be" (future tense) ruling? First, Paul used no future tense verbs in reference to Christ's reigning. He said, "He must reign until...." Second, Paul was referring to that reign of Christ which began when He ascended to the right hand of God...
  19. thethinker

    pre trib rapture a dangerous ploy to deceive

    I am also an educated man. Just sayin....
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