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    Why every Christian has to stand before Judgement

    Is not born of God a judgement already made? When the Gentiles heard this, they were glad and honored the word of the Lord; and all who were appointed for eternal life believed.
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    Jesus the Man Before John !

    Michael is one of the chief princes. Jesus is the only like to like begotten Son of the Father. The writer of Hebrews took pain as He contrasted Jesus's Sonship vs the Angels of God in Hebrews 1. About the Son. Are you a JW?
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    Jesus the Man Before John !

    I agree to disagree. no point in having a continuous disagreement
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    Jesus the Man Before John !

    Jesus was and is a living being. If you do not believe His spirit was a Son of the Father before the world began despite all your word play I disagree with you. Jesus is not my Heavenly Father. God is. We have the same Father and the same God. (My Jesus and I) God brought all things into...
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    Jesus the Man Before John !

    Ok we will disagree. But according to you God brought about the Logos. If I am correct in this then explain how His offspring can't be His Son at that beginning. He's eternal because He lives by the Deity in Him, (the Father), and never dies. Just as we live by Him and never die. He is before...
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    Jesus the Man Before John !

    So I don't understand your message. But I know my Lord. -Begotten but not made -A Son of the Father though Nicene creed- born of the Father before all ages. God from God, Light from Light, true God from true God, begotten, not made, consubstantial with the Father The Son who was, His spirit...
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    Jesus the Man Before John !

    Jesus is begotten. The Father is unbegotten. Eternally begotten or 1st begotten. He is a Son. He calls God His Father and His God. I believe in one Lord Jesus Christ, the Only Begotten Son of God, born of the Father before all ages. God from God, Light from Light, true God from true God...
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    Jesus the Man Before John !

    I mean God has always been His Father. Thus, He has always been the Son. I don't read the Father has always existed. I don't read the Father has a beginning either. I did read no God existed before the Father nor one after Him. Therefore "if" the Father has a beginning it could not be by any...
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    Jesus the Man Before John !

    He was not denying God's Son has the Fathers nature.
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    Jesus the Man Before John !

    Jesus has always been the Son. Whether you state eternally begotten by the Father alone before all worlds or First begotten by the Father alone before all worlds. In Him all the fullness of God was pleased to dwell. Col 1:19 - Gifted from the will of another. The other who reconciled all things...
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    Jesus the Man Before John !

    Jesus, His spirit, was before Adam. The Son of man, the new man, was born after Adam. Anyone, whether in heaven or earth, reconciled to God will be by Christs blood in the cross. Anyone raised on the last day is by Christ Jesus. I assume His mediator role ends when the last enemy of God, Death...
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    Jesus the Man Before John !

    You couldn't state Jesus was with God in the beginning because the Son of Man didn't exist then. The Logos became flesh when He was born into this world as a man. John refers to the Son who was as the Word; the Word of life; the eternal life with the Father in the beginning. Jesus is the Word of...
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    Jesus the Man Before John !

    The identity of the mediator is given as the Son of Man, Christ Jesus. That has nothing to do however with the nature of the Son who was before the world began and is in the form of God not man in any sense of the meaning of the word man. The logos became flesh. The Son of Man.
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    Jesus the Man Before John !

    The word man does not mean mediator nor vise versa. In no sense of the use of the word man or Hebrew word for Adam can the meaning be used to define the Son who was in whom dwells all the fullness of the Fathers Deity. We use "God" as He has the Fathers very nature in Him. God was the Logos...
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    Jesus the Man Before John !

    He was not the Son of Man at that point in the beginning with the Father. You can call Him a man then and we will disagree. God was the Logos is what I read. He has the preeminence in all things. The creation, the church, the resurrection.
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    Jesus the Man Before John !

    I believe Adam was the first man. God's Firstborn was not a man. Hebrews 1 about the Son. Yes, God didn't create, bring forth, or form wisdom as the first of His works in regard to proverbs 8. He already had all wisdom and knowledge in Himself. Jesus is the beginning of the creation of God. The...
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    Jesus the Man Before John !

    He wasn't a man then nor did any man exist before the world began. The testimony is about the Son of Man they saw, heard and touched. The eternal life who was with the Father from the beginning. John referred to Him as the Word and the Word of Life at that point not any man. When the Logos...
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    Jesus the Man Before John !

    Put to death in the "flesh". Alive in the Spirit. Jesus never dies. Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell.
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    Jesus the Man Before John !

    A man is a human being. Man was created by God from the dust of the earth. The Logos became flesh. How do you say then that the Son who was is defined as a "man"? Perhaps I don't understand your message then.
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    Jesus the Man Before John !

    The Son who was before the world began was not a man, (flesh and blood). The Logos became flesh. I'm not sure why you read Him as a man before John but His soul was before John. A body was prepared for Him. Therefore, when Christ came into the world, he said: “Sacrifice and offering you did not...
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