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    Some of the best NT verses threatening loss of salvation

    After the sinner repents and is saved, is he always saved?
  2. M

    Some of the best NT verses threatening loss of salvation

    Never was saved. There is a reason why Jesus said the second person had no root. Keep the premise. He has no root. This is why he falls away. Matthew 13:6 but when the sun rose they were scorched; and since they had no root they withered away. Matthew 13:21 yet he has no root in himself, but...
  3. M

    Some of the best NT verses threatening loss of salvation

    What happens after he finds his sheep which was lost in the wilderness? There is rejoicing. But then the rejoicing is premature if the sheep can become lost again. Can the sheep lose their salvation?
  4. M

    Some of the best NT verses threatening loss of salvation

    The second person has no root in himself, believes for a while, but then he falls away. So he is not saved.
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    It Is Finished...

    28 After this Jesus, knowing that all was now finished, said (to fulfil the scripture), “I thirst.” 29 A bowl full of vinegar stood there; so they put a sponge full of the vinegar on hyssop and held it to his mouth. 30 When Jesus had received the vinegar, he said, “It is finished”; and he bowed...
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    Some of the best NT verses threatening loss of salvation

    The parable says the sheep was lost, then found. It doesn't say lost then found then lost again then found again etc. Jesus said the sheep hear his voice. He calls his own sheep by name and he leads them out. When he has brought out all his own, he goes before them, and the sheep follow him...
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    Some of the best NT verses threatening loss of salvation

    He calls his sheep through the gospel. The idea is the sheep was lost like lost in the wilderness. In peril. In danger. Lost in the big city, homeless, without hope. The sheep do not become lost after they are found. They are in the Father's hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is...
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    Some of the best NT verses threatening loss of salvation

    What does it matter? It's a parable. It shows us how much God cares about us; that he is unwilling to let even one of his sheep perish. He'll search for us until he finds us. How great is his love for his sheep.
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    Some of the best NT verses threatening loss of salvation

    “See that you do not despise one of these little ones; for I tell you that in heaven their angels always behold the face of my Father who is in heaven.[f] 12 What do you think? If a man has a hundred sheep, and one of them has gone astray, does he not leave the ninety-nine on the mountains and...
  10. M

    Some of the best NT verses threatening loss of salvation

    The parable says the sheep was lost. Then it is found. Does the sheep become lost after it is found? No. Once the lost sheep is found, there is rejoicing.
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    It Is Finished...

    I'm not interpreting John 17:4. I'm quoting Jesus. And there's obviously a connection between the prophesy and his words. This was the last prophesy which was fulfilled before he died. Jesus accomplished what the Father gave him to do. The prophecy was fulfilled. And then he died. So you...
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    It Is Finished...

    Yes. He accomplished all that the Father gave him to do. He said this before he was crucified. John 17:4 I glorified thee on earth, having accomplished the work which thou gavest me to do; 21 They gave me poison for food, and for my thirst they gave me vinegar to drink. Ps. 69:21 Jesus was...
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    Some of the best NT verses threatening loss of salvation

    This is not about sheep getting lost. The parable says the sheep was lost, and then he was found. It doesn't say anything about becoming lost after being found. So after finding his sheep, does the shepherd lose him again? No. Psalm 23:1-3 23 The Lord is my shepherd, I shall not want; 2...
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    Some of the best NT verses threatening loss of salvation

    No. In this parable the sheep represents the sinner who is found. It doesn't say anything about becoming lost after being found.
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    It Is Finished...

    You can say he accomplished what he was sent to do, or his work on earth was finished. He accomplished all that the Father gave him to do. Or you can say the prophecy Ps. 69:21 was fulfilled when they gave him vinegar to drink. John 19:30 When Jesus had received the vinegar, he said, “It is...
  16. M

    Some of the best NT verses threatening loss of salvation

    So the sinner repents and there is joy in heaven. So the sheep that was lost is now found. The parable doesn't say anything about losing salvation. It doesn't say anything about becoming lost after being found.
  17. M

    Some of the best NT verses threatening loss of salvation

    Tell her if she thinks God is her Father, she better wisen up or he'll take a paddle to her behind.
  18. M

    Some of the best NT verses threatening loss of salvation

    Tell her Jesus did good works, so we should do good works. Or you can quote Paul. Ephesians 2:10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them.
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    Some of the best NT verses threatening loss of salvation

    The Christian faith is faith in God the Father through Jesus Christ the Son. A Christian is a disciple of Christ. Before we had the word of God, we had Creeds to tell us what we must believe. But now the tables have turned. Now it's our turn to test the spirits to see if they are of God. For a...
  20. M

    Some of the best NT verses threatening loss of salvation

    Jesus said he who endures to the end will be saved. Mt. 10:22 Mt. 24:22 This man doesn't endure. What does having a rocky heart say about his belief? No where in the Bible does it say he who believes for a while is saved or will be saved. You almost sound like a Calvinist.
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