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    Paul was not saved by faith

    I think I see the problem here, and it is with the definition of faith. You seem to be defining it as Blind Belief, accepting something as true without proof. The Greek Word for faith goes beyond this though, and entails trust. Trusting in God for our salvation, and putting our faith in the...
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    Is it Wrong to Think About Hell All the Time?

    Let's use an illustration. A person commits a crime, such as stealing. They know that it's against the law, and they chose to break it. Yet, it is the judge who pronounces the sentence and sends the person to jail, even though they are responsible for the choices that lead them there. You...
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    Is it Wrong to Think About Hell All the Time?

    People don't walk into hell of their own choosing, they are cast into hell by God as punishment on account of their choices that they made in life. People who try to remove God from his influence over hell and just say, "people send themselves to hell," misses the aspect of God's justice that...
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    Is it Wrong to Think About Hell All the Time?

    Thank you. So easy to find information nowadays huh?
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    Is it Wrong to Think About Hell All the Time?

    Because the resurrection hasn't happened yet. Do you know what an allegory is?
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    Is it Wrong to Think About Hell All the Time?

    Parables and allegories don't do too well when interpreted literally. Like Lazarus was literally lifted up physically by angels into heaven, and that the Rich Man was buried, but still had a body.
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    Is it Wrong to Think About Hell All the Time?

    I am saying that people interpret God's Word in such a way to make it contradictory, I don't think Jesus in anyway meant to create contradictory theology.
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    Is it Wrong to Think About Hell All the Time?

    Indeed, I will believe in what is coherent and makes actual sense of what Jesus is saying, rather than it contradicting other theology.
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    Is it Wrong to Think About Hell All the Time?

    No, I do not think the wicked are conscious after death until they are resurrected. The Old Testament is especially clear in teaching that the dead know nothing, and that being in Hades means the end of all activity. Literally the only text that could be conveyed as the wicked being conscious...
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    Is it Wrong to Think About Hell All the Time?

    So you have no answer to why Jesus would be teaching bad theology? If someone was in hell with a resurrected body, then their brothers would not still be living on earth, period. This and many other reasons are why myself and others do not regard this as Jesus taking a moment to randomly teach...
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    Is it Wrong to Think About Hell All the Time?

    I don't think you're getting it. The Rich Man in Hades had a body, why else would he ask Lazarus to pour water on his tongue? You yourself said their bodies were currently in the grave. Please explain how you reconcile this?
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    Is it Wrong to Think About Hell All the Time?

    This too does not fit the text, as it was not after the second resurrection. You see him pleading with Abraham to let Lazarus rise from the dead (sound like anything that happens concerning Jesus) to warn his 5 brothers (who else has 5 full brothers.. Judah). So his brothers were still alive...
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    Is it Wrong to Think About Hell All the Time?

    It is a parable told in allegorical form. You don't seriously think we have bodies with tongues and such in Hades do you?
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    Is it Wrong to Think About Hell All the Time?

    It is called Tartarus in the Greek, not Gehenna which Jesus used. Of course, translators presuppose their theology and go ahead and translate it the same thing and the reader has no idea that the writer uses a different word. εἰ γὰρ ὁ Θεὸς ἀγγέλων ἁμαρτησάντων οὐκ ἐφείσατο, ἀλλὰ σειροῖς ζόφου...
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    Bible Study The limitations of God-given human sovereignty

    God is sovereign, in that he rules and reigns over the universe, but he has control over his sovereignty and has allowed human beings a measure of freedom over his Creation in giving them dominion. He then holds us responsible, because we are accountable for the actions we commit or don't...
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    Is it Wrong to Think About Hell All the Time?

    The problem is, we can ask several people who claim to have these experiences and we will get several different responses and descriptions. Hence, I don't put much stock in these kinds of things. I would rather trust in what the Bible says, which is generally contrary to people's descriptions.
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    Is it Wrong to Think About Hell All the Time?

    In Scripture, Gehenna... "hell" is supposed to be a place where the final judgment go. It is a common mistake to view hell as some kind of current place that you go to immediately after death.
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    The Charismatic Church movement

    Where are you getting "riddle" from. It seems your whole interpretation relies on an inserted word.
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    Too contraversial for some here.

    I don't see this as cozying up to Rome, but rather him stating that Protestants made a mistake in the opposite direction, elevating the Bible too much and sometimes forgetting the Word of God, Jesus. I don't see him elevating tradition, but rather Jesus in what he wrote. The only similarity in...
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    Too contraversial for some here.

    That is always the case with people who hold to a too strong a position of the perspicuity of Scripture (the ease of being understood). The "it plainly states this, I asked God and he showed me," stance to Scripture ends discussions as such a person's interpretation is deemed nearly infallible...
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