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    The Five Points of Calvinism

    As someone who is not a Calvinist, I wholly agree with these statements. :)
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    1 Thess 5:4-10 teaches eternal security

    Sure no problem, you can find the text here: "No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God’s seed abides in him, and he cannot keep on sinning because he has been born of God. By this it is evident who are the children of God, and who are the children of the devil: whoever does not...
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    1 Thess 5:4-10 teaches eternal security

    I dodge nothing, I responded and showed you where I responded in post #33. Please do not make false claims about what I did and did not address. You do not agree with my response. That's fine, I welcome people to disagree with me, just don't make claims that I am hiding from some part of your...
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    1 Thess 5:4-10 teaches eternal security

    I understand that it is your opinion that you think you have refuted me, but I have responded to your arguments and readers can decide for themselves who was most true to the Scriptures. At this point we are pretty much going in circles, and as there is no real new content to respond to I...
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    1 Thess 5:4-10 teaches eternal security

    Good to hear. :) Same here! I don't have a problem with OSAS, I do have a problem with Hypergrace teachings, that say a person can live however they please and still be saved. Which is why I am posting in this thread so much. Indeed, I think the parable of the talents has bearing here...
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    1 Thess 5:4-10 teaches eternal security

    Sanctification is a process, and fruit will come with each Christian if God is truly at work in them. Faith without works is dead, and cannot save. I certainly don't tell them that they can just sit there and do nothing. God's grace isn't just to save people, it is to transform them into the...
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    1 Thess 5:4-10 teaches eternal security

    I disagree that you provided proof, as I indicated that the word could mean awake, but could denote being vigilant, but that's not the case for every usage of this word. I think that's basically irrelevant now, as that is not the position I would personally defend, though many scholars hold...
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    1 Thess 5:4-10 teaches eternal security

    This is a misrepresentation, I will show you below where I addressed it. No dismissal was made. Romans 6:23, let's take a look at it. "For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord." Romans 6:23 (ESV) This is why I call it Eternal Security...
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    1 Thess 5:4-10 teaches eternal security

    I don't ignore this, I already dealt with this. Once you have made a point, refrain from flooding the forum with numerous posts making the same point over and over with nothing new to support it. The "pledge," you mentioned actually comes from the Greek word "arrhabṓn" which means receiving...
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    1 Thess 5:4-10 teaches eternal security

    Severed from Christ... sorry there is only one way to the Father, and no one gets there apart from Christ. No discussion of what "sealed," actually means? In the historical context, you would seal documents for legal purposes, this way if the seal was broken the document would be void because...
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    The Five Points of Calvinism

    Those given to Christ will be saved, as he says in that very text of John 6:39 that he will lose nothing, and raise them up on the last day. If that's not salvation then I don't know what is.
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    1 Thess 5:4-10 teaches eternal security

    Good to hear. Romans 6:23, let's take a look at it. "For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord." Romans 6:23 (ESV) This is why I call it Eternal Security in Christ, because that is the way Paul phrases it. That the free gift of God isn't...
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    1 Thess 5:4-10 teaches eternal security

    I said that the "being alive," was a possible interpretation, indeed I offered it as the second option. See here: "It could mean that they are asleep, as in unprepared and inattentive to the signs of Jesus' coming. This would make sense as the daytime and nighttime distinction isn't a...
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    The Five Points of Calvinism

    v3 is one of the most famous texts in Scripture, I understand what it says. "And this is eternal life, that they know you the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent." John 17:3 (ESV) Let's compare. "I in them and you in me, that they may become perfectly one, so that the world may...
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    1 Thess 5:4-10 teaches eternal security

    That's not what the text says. "You are severed from Christ, you who would be justified by the law; you have fallen away from grace." Galatians 5:4 (ESV) Severed from Christ, and fallen away from grace for seeking to be justified by the Mosaic Law. Also here, in talking about being grafted in...
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    The Five Points of Calvinism

    I doubt it, this text seems to cast some doubt on that. "But there are some of you who do not believe.” (For Jesus knew from the beginning who those were who did not believe, and who it was who would betray him.)" John 6:64 (ESV)
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    The Five Points of Calvinism

    Do you think Jesus gave him eternal life as stated in John 17:2? This is spoken generally about the disciples, and I don't think he would be qualifying his statements every time to exclude Judas, it seems assumed until it is stated that he has been lost for the fulfillment of Scripture.
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    The Five Points of Calvinism

    Judas was never elected to salvation, he is the son of perdition, destined to destruction.
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    The Five Points of Calvinism

    Jesus was given authority to give them eternal life, so yes. "since you have given him authority over all flesh, to give eternal life to all whom you have given him." John 17:2 (ESV) My observations were concerning the identity of the group, not the nature of eternal life. You say that Jesus...
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    1 Thess 5:4-10 teaches eternal security

    I hold to the view that eternal security is found only in Christ, and one is united with Christ by faith. If one is in Christ then they share in the Covenant blessings, though if they fall away in unbelief or seek to be justified by the Mosaic law then they are cut off from Christ and no longer...
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