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  1. john darling

    God or money?

    No, that will not help you to better understand, because I am not the one causing any confusion here. It is a recurring theme (which I've tried before) that when people who disagree with my position want me to talk about myself, they invariably find something wrong and use me as an excuse to...
  2. john darling

    God or money?

    The ideal is to obey Jesus. If you want to look at all the failures and conclude that obedience to Jesus just doesn't work, that's on you, but don't try to pretend such a stance can still be called Christianity. When you stand before God, he will not care how many people you point the finger...
  3. john darling

    God or money?

    Sometimes doing the wrong thing for the right reason can be right in God's eyes. But that's not really what you're describing here. You're talking about service to mammon while slipping a payment to God here and there to make it all seem ok. Here's a real-world example to show why this kind of...
  4. john darling

    God or money?

    This is a pretty dishonest strategy for getting around the issue. The ideal of communal living does not fail. The principles on which it is based are sound and good. People fail, so you've taken those failures and said, "See! It doesn't work, so I'm gonna do it the worldly way and just pretend...
  5. john darling

    God or money?

    Demand payment for your love so you can support the kingdom of love. That makes no sense. Or gamble it all away. What does God care, right? Because Jesus died for your sins you can just claim salvation and it's all rainbows for you. Talk some jargon about Paul making tents. Some skewed...
  6. john darling

    God or money?

    You have been told that money is always needed. Always. All life revolves around you getting top dollar. You have seen it demonstrated in practical reality that no one will help one another without money. In your whole life mostly what you've seen are examples of people who will not help one...
  7. john darling

    God or money?

    No, Paul never teaches that we should only work for the sake of claiming what we are owed (i.e. payment for our time). If we owe no man anything, then there is, by definition, no obligation. But, in the system you support, no one would work if they did not get paid. If you work, you are owed...
  8. john darling

    God or money?

    Nah. I'm discussing the words a member posted here about himself. Even Stovebolts recognized that JohnDB gaffed a bit by boasting that he only works for money, and top dollar at that. Yes. The implication is that, when talking about the ideal of God vs money, you can usually spot who has a...
  9. john darling

    God or money?

    Yeah, in the worldy system we currently live in, where money makes the world go round, it's difficult for people to get the help they need when they don't have money to pay for that help. That is exactly the problem.
  10. john darling

    God or money?

    I think imagination needs to be an important part of this discussion. For example, consider Nathan12's earlier comments. He cannot imagine a situation in which Jesus can be preached without a reliance on money. His dependence on money is so ingrained that he likens a system where we work for...
  11. john darling

    God or money?

    Hi JDB. I make no claims about you. However, the more you post about it the more I am reminded of the question, if you throw a stick into a pack of dogs, how do you know which one you've hit?
  12. john darling

    God or money?

    Hi JohnDB. I'd rather the topic not be about me. Jesus is the cornerstone and my understanding of this issue is based on his teachings. Why do you think a video about working for love vs working for money supports the anti-christ?
  13. john darling

    God or money?

    Where does this happen in the video?
  14. john darling

    God or money?

    Hi JDB. Thanks for watching the video. I'm curious to know what fear you think the video is promoting.
  15. john darling

    God or money?

    Hi Nathan Can you imagine any situation in which one may not need to be dependent on money in order to teach others about Jesus?
  16. john darling

    God or money?

    Hi wondering. Thanks for the response. What do you think are some examples of people allowing money to take their attention away from God?
  17. john darling

    God or money?

    Hi all. Over on a couple different threads the topic of Jesus and money has come up consistently so it seems worth starting a thread dealing with just that one issue. To start things off, I'd like to post a short (12 minute) video which details the issue well, though I don't mind if you'd like...
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  18. john darling

    3 Important truths for spiritual clarity.

    He said they'd be destroyed. That seems pretty stern to me. It's similar to this one; "Every tree that doesn't bear fruit will be cut down and thrown into the fire". Matthew 7:19 Or this one; "But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them...
  19. john darling

    3 Important truths for spiritual clarity.

    Hi JDB. The rapid fire issues you've presented seem a little aggressive. How about we slow it down a bit and you can choose one of those issues for me to deal with. Does that sound fair?
  20. john darling

    3 Important truths for spiritual clarity.

    Hi Wondering. Fair enough. Here's the explanation from the youtube page itself. "Three Important Truths for Spiritual Clarity" shows just how easy it is to clear up the confusion that so many people have about who to believe and who not to believe. Do people really want to know God's will for...
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