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  1. john darling

    how many people will take the mark of beast . I believe no one will take it

    This is what I'm talking about. Does't deal with what the prophecy actually says. The prophecy doesn't say anything about any sinless person. It says a mark will be introduced which will be used to control buying and selling. If you choose to take the Mark you will be subjected ot the...
  2. john darling

    how many people will take the mark of beast . I believe no one will take it

    Same here. Doesn't deal with what the prophecy actually says.
  3. john darling

    how many people will take the mark of beast . I believe no one will take it

    What's most significant about this post is that it's a complete dismissal of the issue. Doesn't deal with the prophecy at all.
  4. john darling

    how many people will take the mark of beast . I believe no one will take it

    Hi JCitoL. Ultimately it's up to God to decide what he'll do with each individual. However, the warnings in the Revelation are fairly clear. There is still the possibility that microchip implants will not be the Mark, but the similarity between the two really is too difficult to brush aside...
  5. john darling

    how many people will take the mark of beast . I believe no one will take it

    Hi JCitoL. Thanks for your comments about the poor. The systems of man are not interested in people who have no money. That is the point of money in the first place. If you don't have it then your life has no value. Remember the phrase "earning a living"? It was used recently on this thread...
  6. john darling

    how many people will take the mark of beast . I believe no one will take it

    Hi JohnDB. Can I get some clarification from you on this part. By, "how it functions" do you mean the part about how the Mark will be used to control buying and selling? The Beast will be known by more than 1 characteristic. Yup, it will make war with the saints. It will also be...
  7. john darling

    how many people will take the mark of beast . I believe no one will take it

    Here's what the prophecy says about the Mark. REV 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: REV 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the...
  8. john darling

    how many people will take the mark of beast . I believe no one will take it

    Hi JohnDB. I think it may be helpful to slow down a bit. I'm not talking about who is or is not wicked. In the end we're all sinners. This is a discussion about the Mark of the Beast. I've chosen to discuss what the prophecy says about the Mark, i.e. that its purpose will be to control...
  9. john darling

    how many people will take the mark of beast . I believe no one will take it

    Hi Jason. Thanks for this clarification, though I'm still a little confused. I had the impression that you originally shared this story as an example of helping someone for love. But, when you say non-commissioned officers take care of lower enlisted, it could be taken that you were somehow...
  10. john darling

    how many people will take the mark of beast . I believe no one will take it

    Nah, I'm just talking about the teachings of Jesus and the testimony of Jesus is the answer to the Mark of the Beast (Revelation 19:10). It's a discussion. Agreed. I'm not trying to elevate you, though I don't see why you'd have a problem with being elevated to preaching since we're all...
  11. john darling

    how many people will take the mark of beast . I believe no one will take it

    Hi Jason. I'm still curious about why you worked on the car for free. Would you mind sharing the reason? Ordinarily I wouldn't ask about personal details like this but since you volunteered the example I think it could help to shed some light on the issues being discussed. Thanks.
  12. john darling

    how many people will take the mark of beast . I believe no one will take it

    Why would you do that? Are you saying you disagree with what the majority of posters here are saying about how if you don't work you shouldn't eat? Since you did that work for love, I hope you didn't eat anything on that day because according to what people here have shared, you'd be going...
  13. john darling

    how many people will take the mark of beast . I believe no one will take it

    Why would you do that? Are you saying you disagree with what the majority of posters here are saying about how if you don't work you shouldn't eat? Since you did that work for love, I hope you didn't eat anything on that day because according to what people here have shared, you'd be going...
  14. john darling

    how many people will take the mark of beast . I believe no one will take it

    This is another of those double minded areas. Obadiah talks about "accepting" a wage, as though it's some kind of gift being offered. People don't "accept" wages. They demand them. That's the whole purpose of money. If someone doesn't pay, they don't get the service. Here, Obadiah explains...
  15. john darling

    how many people will take the mark of beast . I believe no one will take it

    Hi JohnDB. When using scripture it's helpful to get the context. For example, would you same the same thing about a prostitute? The laborer is worthy of his wages? No, obviously not. There was a context to the comment Jesus made about the laborer being worthy of his hire. He'd just sent...
  16. john darling

    how many people will take the mark of beast . I believe no one will take it

    Thanks for saying this, Obadiah. If I ever need a witness as to my position on the love of money, I will definitely call on you! :biggrin It's not narrowminded to be consistent in my position or to disagree with you. For example, you disagree with my position, but I don't think you are...
  17. john darling

    how many people will take the mark of beast . I believe no one will take it

    Hi Obadiah. I don't think disagreement with your position is the same as narrow mindedness. For example in your quote above, you talk about "extreme greed" as though just a little bit of greed is okay. Can you see how that just becomes a convenient doctrine? You can excuse any need to deal...
  18. john darling

    how many people will take the mark of beast . I believe no one will take it

    Except that's not what the prophecy says. It says people won't be able to buy or sell without the Mark. It doesn't say Satan won't be able to buy or sell. It doesn't say the people buy and sell people. It just says they won't be able to buy or sell without the Mark of the Beast. Revelation...
  19. john darling

    Is poverty man-made?

    Hi NNS. I agree that poverty is a consequence but if it's true that the rich try to keep the poor in poverty then surely the consequences that (at least some of) the poor face are man-made consequences. I also question this idea of keeping the poor in poverty through various schemes and...
  20. john darling

    Is poverty man-made?

    Hi Kiwidan. Thanks for sharing those thoughts. However, I think this could possibly relate to the concern Kidron was hinting at when he asked me, "what about a job" and later suggested that I would hesitate to "pick up a shovel". It's a valid concern. What do we do when some people do the...
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