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  1. john darling

    Is poverty man-made?

    Thanks for making this point, Jason. I think it would be good to link some of these conclusions and observations to the things Jesus and his followers said.
  2. john darling

    Is poverty man-made?

    Hi Mike. Thanks for sharing these thoughts. I agree with your assessment that even the poor in America (generally speaking) are much wealthier than the poor in many other countries. It's an important point to get the right perspective so I'm glad you mentioned that. I'm curious what you mean...
  3. john darling

    Is poverty man-made?

    No, I didn't realize that, but again, I'm not particularly surprised by it. That's interesting. Would you mind giving a few examples to illustrate the point?
  4. john darling

    Is poverty man-made?

    Hi Kidron. I think you may have misunderstood my meaning. I'm suggesting that there are enough resources in the world for all of us to live quite comfortably, but that doing so will take a lot of thought and consideration on how to best share those resources in a fair and just way. From what...
  5. john darling

    Is poverty man-made?

    Thanks for sharing these comments, Steve. That's quite interesting about the trash bags thing. I'd not heard that before but I would no be surprised if it turned out to be accurate.
  6. john darling

    how many people will take the mark of beast . I believe no one will take it

    Hi Obadiah. I'm pretty sure I do have an open mind and I re-read your post quite carefully. You didn't address what Jesus said about the two masters (i.e. God and money). So, no, you've not addressed the point I made based on Matthew 6:24. Would you be okay to do that now? In particular I'm...
  7. john darling

    Is poverty man-made?

    Thanks for sharing that, Blake. It still seems to fall into the "man-made" category, though, even if it's self-man-made. Do you have any suggestions on how to over come that particular "mind-set" issue?
  8. john darling

    how many people will take the mark of beast . I believe no one will take it

    I'm still waiting for an answer to my question about this comment from you, smaller. You're basically saying that it doesn't even matter if people take the Mark, because "nothing can separate us from the love God in Christ". This basically makes the prophecy worthless as a warning of any...
  9. john darling

    how many people will take the mark of beast . I believe no one will take it

    Hi Obadiah. You say you are convinced that it's okay to love working for money. I'm guessing you don't see any difference between "the love of money" and "love working for money" but I'd seriously question why that is. You put the word "love" in quotes. Why? Can you be more clear about what...
  10. john darling

    Is poverty man-made?

    Hi all. I'm curious what others think about this question. My position is that yes, it is man made. From what I have experienced there are enough resources in the world for everyone's needs. Not only that, but there is enough for everyone to live quite comfortably. If you take the position...
  11. john darling

    how many people will take the mark of beast . I believe no one will take it

    I think this is only true when we believe it is true. Money only has as much value as we choose to give it. Jesus wants us to start working for a new motivation; love. (Matthew 6:24-34) Thanks for sharing this insight, Kiwidan. I particularly liked the part about how we deny loving money...
  12. john darling

    how many people will take the mark of beast . I believe no one will take it

    Hi JCitoL. No, in your previous post you told me, "it's obvius". In the post before that you didn't answer, either. I've read them very carefully because I'm interested in the answer.
  13. john darling

    how many people will take the mark of beast . I believe no one will take it

    Hi JCitoL. I don't think it's obvious. I think we've had A LOT of disagreement about this issue of money, which is why I want to get it very clear when you say, "some things you've said (about money) are true". Even though you may see it as obvious, I would really appreciate if you would...
  14. john darling

    how many people will take the mark of beast . I believe no one will take it

    Hi JCitoL. I think you may have misunderstood my comments. You said, "some things that you said here are true". I'd like to know which of the things I said you think are true. I think the discussion will be much more productive if we address some of these specific areas where we apparently...
  15. john darling

    how many people will take the mark of beast . I believe no one will take it

    Hi Smaller. You've not answered the question. Which part of the Revelation is addressed to the Devil and his messengers? Also, another question you've not answser is the difference between taking the Mark of loyalty to the Beast and worship of the Beast. You clearly said there is a...
  16. john darling

    how many people will take the mark of beast . I believe no one will take it

    Hi JCitoL. Thanks for your response. It sounds like we may have some agreement here. Would you mind clarifying which parts of my post you thought were true? Considering how much disagreement we have, it may make for a more productive discussion if we could spend some time focusing on our...
  17. john darling

    how many people will take the mark of beast . I believe no one will take it

    Which teachings from the Revelation (which is where the prophecy we're discussing is found) are "meant for the devil and his messengers"? The opening line says the Revelation is meant for the servants of Jesus, but you say some of it is meant for the devil. Why? The Mark of the Beast prophecy...
  18. john darling

    how many people will take the mark of beast . I believe no one will take it

    Hi JCitoL. Thanks for asking this question. I think it's a very good one and I'm happy to hear you say that you do not live for money. I think that's a very good step in the right direction. As for your question, "is it possible to live without money"? I think the answer is fairly simple...
  19. john darling

    how many people will take the mark of beast . I believe no one will take it

    This is the kind of response which I would view as evidence that you've got a genuine problem with money. You claimed there is a distinction between taking the Mark of the Beast and worship of the Beast. I asked you for evidence of that and your response is to ask if I'm talking about humans...
  20. john darling

    how many people will take the mark of beast . I believe no one will take it

    Hi JCitoL. To me, it sounds like you are trying to say two things at once. Because you believe the monetary system is a good thing, you feel a need to justify it but because there are very clear examples where Jesus preaches against faith in the monetary system your defenses come out sounding...
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