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  1. john darling

    how many people will take the mark of beast . I believe no one will take it

    I smaller. Thanks for providing these responses. I feel they get much closer to the heart of the issue. Can you please clarify what you see is the difference between taking the Mark of the Beast and worshiping the Beast? How are they different? Excellent. However, one problem I've...
  2. john darling

    how many people will take the mark of beast . I believe no one will take it

    If God tells them not to get tattoos and they do it anyway, yes it DOES say something about their "internal state of affairs". The context of the Mark prophecy is that we are told not to take it (Revelation 14:9-11). Sure, the Mark is the counterfeit of God's seal. Christians live and work...
  3. john darling

    how many people will take the mark of beast . I believe no one will take it

    Hi JCitoL. No, I'm not trying to make you look foolish, but I think this comment from you a good indication that there really is a problem. You don't think it's even a tiny bit strange that you somehow think the topic of this thread is about eating meat? Here's a basic summary of what...
  4. john darling

    how many people will take the mark of beast . I believe no one will take it

    I feel like I've been trying pretty hard to avoid comments which could come across as inflammatory or condescending, but at some point I feel I need to say, "that's just plain wrong". A prophecy from nearly 2000 years ago accurately predicted what's actually starting to happen in world economics...
  5. john darling

    how many people will take the mark of beast . I believe no one will take it

    Hi JCitol. That's strange. When you said that,"it really is so that the attachment to certain possessions could hamper the spiritual growth of the worshiper under certain circumstances", what you really meant was something about curses which cause people to eat abnormally? Huh. I think it's...
  6. john darling

    how many people will take the mark of beast . I believe no one will take it

    It's not clear to me what you are suggesting here, but it looks like you are making a distinction between taking the Mark and worshiping the Beast. Is that correct? In other words, one can take the Mark for buying and selling, so long as one does not physically bow down to the Beast? Please...
  7. john darling

    how many people will take the mark of beast . I believe no one will take it

    hi JC. In an earlier post I asked you for some examples of what this, "attachment" to "certain possessions" actually means. What are these "certain possessions"? How do they "hamper the spiritual growth" of the worshiper and what are these "certain circumstances? Instead, you respond with...
  8. john darling

    how many people will take the mark of beast . I believe no one will take it

    Hi Ezrider. I see the warning in the Revelation against the Mark as genuine. We will all have a choice in whether to accept the Mark or reject it. (Revelation 14:9-10) If we didn't have some choice in the matter then it would be pointless to include the location and purpose of the Mark and a...
  9. john darling

    how many people will take the mark of beast . I believe no one will take it

    HI Ezrider. Thanks for sharing that. However, what I see missing from your interpretation is an explanation about the "buy and sell" aspect of the Mark. The prophecy says no one will be able to buy or sell without it. How do you see it working that no one will be able to buy or sell without...
  10. john darling

    how many people will take the mark of beast . I believe no one will take it

    It's okay EZrider. Thanks for your explanation but I'd rather continue discussing the Mark of the Beast on this particular thread. A thread on the Image of the beast could be interesting if you wanted to start one.
  11. john darling

    how many people will take the mark of beast . I believe no one will take it

    Hi JCitoL. Thanks for sharing this. Can you give some examples of these circumstances? Excellent. Can you please reference the teachings Jesus gave on how to avoid the deception/delusion of attachment to material possessions?
  12. john darling

    how many people will take the mark of beast . I believe no one will take it

    Ahh, I just noticed this comment from JCitoL. It's exactly what I was just saying in response to smaller. It's in reference to a pic I posted of a woman using a smart watch on her wrist to pay for her travel fee on a subway (in the UK, I think). I don't think it's THE Mark, but it's certainly...
  13. john darling

    how many people will take the mark of beast . I believe no one will take it

    Sorry smaller, but you really did walk right into this one... MT 7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: MT 7:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto...
  14. john darling

    how many people will take the mark of beast . I believe no one will take it

    Hi Smaller. There is a reason why posts are seperated in to topics. I understand that some themes can be connected to quite a larger body of information. However, sometimes we want to discuss a specific piece of the picture. That's what I'm doing with the Mark of the beast. But as for...
  15. john darling

    how many people will take the mark of beast . I believe no one will take it

    An intersting point about the prostitute in Revelation 18 being named "Babylon" is that the Kingdom of Babylon, from history, practically invented money in the form of large gold bars with which they traded. The benefit of being able to trade gold bars instead for 500,000 goats as opposed to...
  16. john darling

    how many people will take the mark of beast . I believe no one will take it

    Friend just sent me this pic. This kind of cashless technology is becoming more popular; tap-and-pay with the hand. I posted something very similar to this gadget in post #7, when Barclays bank released a new series of gadgets for tap-and-pay payment including a wrist band, sticker, and key...
  17. john darling

    how many people will take the mark of beast . I believe no one will take it

    When you're ready to deal with the quotes I posted from Jesus about our dependence on money and the things money can buy, let me know.
  18. john darling

    how many people will take the mark of beast . I believe no one will take it

    Hi Diane. Thanks for sharing those comments. I think it's fine that you didn't read the whole thread (I do that too!). Besides, I think you're the first person to mention this interpretation so far on this thread. The difference between God's seal and the Mark of the Beast is that one is the...
  19. john darling

    how many people will take the mark of beast . I believe no one will take it

    The word "materialism" isn't found in the Bible and on that basis you're prepared to disregard all these teachings from Jesus about money and our dependence on material possessions? It really does sound like you've decided your personal theory is more important than what Jesus (or the prophecy)...
  20. john darling

    how many people will take the mark of beast . I believe no one will take it

    Hi JCitoL. Thanks for posting some clarification on how you arrived at the conclusion that "buy and sell" isn't really talking about what we do with money or material goods. However, I think your evidence doesn't really support that. The examples you've given talk about actual buying and...
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