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  1. R

    There is an alternative to trinitarianism/ non-trinitarianism.

    The Logos became flesh that is a body was prepared for "Him". Man was only able to kill His body according to the power given over Jesus from above to fulfill the Fathers will to reconcile all things to Himself through Christs blood on the cross as beforehand in the garden Jesus submitted to...
  2. R

    There is an alternative to trinitarianism/ non-trinitarianism.

    I replied to your comment in regard to Jesus and Abraham. The Logos was who Jesus, a living being, was referred to. They are not two people but one. The mind contains memories. Jesus testified to what He saw and heard in the Fathers presence from His mind. The only such eyewitness of God. The...
  3. R

    There is an alternative to trinitarianism/ non-trinitarianism.

    The body yes. My mother's womb was my beginning. Mary's womb was not Jesus's beginning. I'm believe Jesus saw Abraham. He testified to what He saw and heard in the Fathers presence in heaven from His mind. I don't separate Him from the Son who was who has no ending. He came down from heaven...
  4. R

    There is an alternative to trinitarianism/ non-trinitarianism.

    You believe Jesus was created in the womb of Mary? Body and Soul?
  5. R

    There is an alternative to trinitarianism/ non-trinitarianism.

    Perhaps its truth not a title Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent Always been the Son as in before all things were brought into existence through Him. I understand what they state. Its your message I'm trying to understand. Its...
  6. R

    There is an alternative to trinitarianism/ non-trinitarianism.

    Not really. God is a title? What add's true before the Fathers title but not the Son or the Spirit? There is only ONE God so if its the Fathers title why not the Son and the Spirit? You believe Jesus was the Son but if He is not the Fathers Son whose Son is He? Eternally Begotten means begotten...
  7. R

    Yes, Ok Welcome to the forums.

    Yes, Ok Welcome to the forums.
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  8. R

    There is an alternative to trinitarianism/ non-trinitarianism.

    to the pure you show yourself pure, but to the devious you show yourself shrewd. You can see this in Jesus's interactions with those who loved Him vs those who sought to kill and trap Him.
  9. R

    There is an alternative to trinitarianism/ non-trinitarianism.

    There is only one God and one Spirit. I can see the Spirit as a person. The person of the Father. In a believer the Spirit, sent in Jesus name, conveys the will and presence of Christ so in that context the person of Christ. What I don't see is the Spirit having a separate distinct mind from the...
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    Bible Study Why is Psalm 41 about Jesus?

    Zechariah 11:12–13 12 I told them, “If you think it best, give me my pay; but if not, keep it.” So they paid me thirty pieces of silver. 13 And the Lord said to me, “Throw it to the potter”—the handsome price at which they valued me! So I took the thirty pieces of silver and threw them to the...
  11. R

    Jesus learned? Jesus was made perfect?

    I'll go with what the writer of Hebrews wrote and it was about the Son not God which you are introducing into the text. During the days of Jesus’ life on earth, he offered up prayers and petitions with fervent cries and tears to the one who could save him from death, and he was heard because of...
  12. R

    Jesus learned? Jesus was made perfect?

    Yes He never dies because He lives by the Father just as those who feed off Him live and never die. The Father in Him and He in us. Just as the living Father sent me and I live because of the Father, so the one who feeds on me will live because of me.
  13. R

    Jesus learned? Jesus was made perfect?

    Again I read Jesus "once made perfect" then.. I read that testimony I didn't write it. He learned obedience and to rely on God though the world was made through Him. He prayed with tears. Melchizedek has a beginning. It's about His order of priesthood. If Jesus, like Melchizedek's priesthood...
  14. R

    Jesus learned? Jesus was made perfect?

    I read Jesus learned obedience from what He suffered and once "made" perfect.... I didn't write that. and, once made perfect, he became the source of eternal salvation for all who obey him 7During the days of Jesus’ life on earth, he offered up prayers and petitions with fervent cries and...
  15. R

    Jesus learned? Jesus was made perfect?

    God is perfect and doesn't need to learn anything. I agree but you asked about this scripture. Was it a bait question? Apparently from what I read, Jesus needed to learn obedience from suffering and in that regard was perfected. I know Jesus overcame the world as a servant though the world was...
  16. R

    Jesus learned? Jesus was made perfect?

    Didn't say that He did. You did notice the question mark didn't you? The Text states though He was a Son, yet He learned obedience by the things which He suffered. 9 And having been perfected, He became the author of eternal salvation to all who obey Him, My God doesn't need to learn anything...
  17. R

    Jesus learned? Jesus was made perfect?

    He is referenced as a Son in that passage. He was made a little lower than the angels for a little while. As the Son of Man he had to learn to rely/depend on the Father which He petitioned with prayers and tears. Of course I believe He has always been the Begotten Son but that is as close as I...
  18. R

    what does it mean to be "Holy?" according to Leviticus 19"1-20:27

    Paul did say Love does no harm to one's neighbor and is a fulfillment of all the law God requires of us. In love you are not sinning. We do serve God in the new way of the Spirit not the old way of the written code. Paul is stating we are keeping those commandments of importance when we "Love"...
  19. R

    Mary, the mother of the Lord

    There is only one Son of Man whose Father is God alone. I don't think of Mary as the mother of God as Jesus was before the world began. I do think of her as the Mother of the Christ though.
  20. R

    Mary, the mother of the Lord

    Jesus did not have a human Father. He is the Son of God and Christ the Lord. Clearly above a human Sovereign. As one from above who is above all and speaks from His own mind what He saw and heard.
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