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10,000 Jews expelled from Gaza Strip

Nikki

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http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=46178

"We don't have prophets who can tell us exactly what are God's ways, but when we see something so enormous as Katrina, I would say [President] Bush and [Secretary of State Condoleezza] Rice need to make an accounting of their actions, because something was done wrong by America in a big way. And here there are many obvious connections between the storm and the Gaza evacuation, which came right on top of each other. No one has permission to take away one inch of the land of Israel from the Jewish people."

Abraham, the biblical father of the Jews, received this promise from God in the book of Genesis: "I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed."

One week before Katrina made landfall, Israel carried out the evacuation of 9,500 residents from Gush Katif and four Samaria communities. Residents were forced from their homes by Israeli troops, some dragged away kicking and screaming and placed on buses that took them from the area. The majority of former Katif residents are currently homeless while the Israeli government struggles to find permanent housing solutions.

The Gaza withdrawal was backed by the U.S. government. Some Middle East analysts and senior Israeli politicians entirely attributed the evacuation plan to pressure coming from the American establishment.

"I welcome the disengagement plan," stated Bush immediately following the announcement of the Gaza evacuation. "These steps will mark real progress toward realizing the vision I set forth in June 2002 of two states living side by side in peace and security."

Now, Garlitzky and many others here and on the Internet are pointing to what they call eerie similarities between Katrina and the evacuation of Gush Katif, including parallels in events, names and numbers:

* Close to 10,000 Jews were expelled from their homes in the Gaza Strip and parts of northern Samaria. Katrina's death toll is now expected to reach at least 10,000.

* America's population ratio to Israel is about 50:1. Ten thousand Jews who lost their Gaza homes is the equivalent of about 500,000 Americans who are now reported to be displaced as result of Katrina.

* Gaza's Jewish communities were located in Israel's southern coastal region; America's southern coastal region now lies in ruins.

* The U.S. government called on Louisiana residents to evacuate their homes ahead of the storm. The Israeli government, backed by statements from U.S. officials, demanded Gaza residents evacuate their homes.

* Katrina, written in Hebrew, has a numerical equivalent of 374, according to a biblical numbering system upheld by all traditional Jewish authorities. Two relevant passages in the Torah share the exact numerical equivalent: "They have done you evil" (Gen. 50:17) and "The sea upon land" (Exodus 14:15).

* Bush, from Texas, and Rice, from Alabama, were the most vocal U.S. backers of the Gaza evacuation. Hurricane Katrina hit the states in between Texas and Alabama – Louisiana and Mississippi.

* Similarity in scenes: Many residents of Jewish Gaza climbed to their rooftops to escape the threat of expulsion, while residents of the Gulf Coast climbed on their own rooftops to protect themselves from the rising waters. Jewish Gaza homes described as beautiful and charming were demolished this week by Israel's military. Once beautiful homes in New Orleans now lie in ruins.

* The day Katrina hit, Israel began carrying out what was termed the most controversial aspect of the Gaza withdrawal – the uprooting of bodies from the area's Jewish cemetery. There have been media reports of corpses floating around in flooded New Orleans regions.

* Citizens of Israel were barred from entering Gush Katif; people were only allowed to leave Jewish Gaza. As Katrina was making landfall U.S. authorities barred citizens from entering the affected areas. People were only allowed out.

* Gush Katif was an important agricultural area for Israel, providing the Jewish state with 70 percent of its produce. A New Orleans port that exported much of the Midwest's agricultural production was destroyed by Katrina.
 
You're are really going to start something here. lol I am in total agreement with you. The day I watched those jewish people being pulled from their homes my friend called me and we both said "Watch the storms we get now." God will not tolerate people messing with Israel. Our president should no better and I wrothe him and told him so.
You know what amazed me? When they were talking about that one part of NO, they called it the West Bank. So befitting. People don't want to see it, they don't want to hear about it, they just make like God would never do a thing like that. We are going to see alot more of God's wrath. Good post.
 
I looked on here and didn't see anything posted yet about this news. I just found out last night. I have a new friend at school who is a devout Christian and she also teaches Sunday school. She asked me if I had heard what happened right before Katrina hit and I hadn't. I guess the news is only reporting on the hurricanes because that's all I've heard.

I have some friends of mine right now really getting on my case about all this stuff I'm posting. Like you said: They don't want to hear about it and they don't see it. They just don't understand and I've tried to help them understand.

I wish Jesus would just come back now.
 
Link --> Katrina's toll tops 1,000 Thursday, September 22, 2005

A far cry from the estimated 10,000. An excerpt from the link Nikki posted...

Close to 10,000 Jews were expelled from their homes in the Gaza Strip and parts of northern Samaria. Katrina's death toll is now expected to reach at least 10,000.
We need to be careful about taking predictions like this and comparing them to God's word.

Here's an excerpt from the link I cited...
Not since an estimated 8,000 people died in a 1900 hurricane that swamped Galveston, Tex., has the death toll from even the worst storms exceeded a few hundred.
Ok, question, what did the US do then to warrant 8,000 dead?

This is not God's wrath. It is a natural disaster brought on by unusually warm waters and conditions on the Gulf region, as is the latest hurricane about to strike Texas. I'm positive there were many believers in La, Miss. and Ala. (and Texas) God gave us His promise that He would not appoint us to wrath.

1 Th 5:9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,

His wrath on an unbelieving world is yet to come and will be worldwide.

Now, if you want to talk about these events as being signs or warnings... I'm all "eyes". :lol:
 
You know what amazed me? When they were talking about that one part of NO, they called it the West Bank.
Von, the Mississippi runs north/south. According to my secretary, who is from N.O., they call one side the East bank and the other, the West bank. Seems as though they've been calling them that for hundreds of years. :-D

Oh, if you really want to know about God and His Wrath, read about the trumpets, bowls and vials in Revelation.
 
The Gaza withdrawl was enginneered by Ariel Sharon. Israel did it unilaterally.

Although Clinton and his cronies pumped a lot of money into Sharon's campaign to oust Netanyahu who was against the Gaza withdrawl altogether.
 
Phil- you are mistaken. Israel did not do it unilaterally and it was no really what Sharon wanted, he was coerced by the US.

Vic- I know what you are saying but from a spiritual stand point it just popped into my head whenever they said that. I know that literally it is not the same. By the way, who do you think controls nature? Globlal warming. How about when they said of Jesus, Even the winds and seas obey His voice. God says He will bless certain people and He will curse others. What would that mean. He is not going to bless a nation that has rejected Him. Do you think so?
 
God is in control of everything. That's not to say He doesn't relinquish control. One case in point...

Rom 1:24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:...

... Rom 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

We are subjected to all sorts of vile things as a result of sin upon this world. We must be accountable for something. The drastically changing weather patterns are a result of the mususe and abuse of our enviorment. The polluting of our oceans, the callous destruction of the rainforests are the causes of the weather changes we see. Sure, they are a sign of the times, we have been warned these things would happen.

Mat 24:6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
Mat 24:7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.

God could change all this in a heartbeat, but He doesn't.

2 Chr 7:14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chr 7:15 Now mine eyes shall be open, and mine ears attent unto the prayer that is made in this place.
 
You hit the nail right on the head with the scripture you posted. 2Chr 7:14
I think this is the bottom line. We as a nation need to repent. And not just the unsaved, but those of us who don't live for the Lord like we should. Me, my finger is pointing at me.
 
I found 2 articles today and I call them
"The signs of the coming wrath" and "The day no one knows"

As usual some will read it and start their objections the very
same moment.

But this is not for the blind. It is for the ones that will be ready.

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Be Strengthened Brothers and Sisters

Open your eyes and understand the Gaza evacuation

Bush, from Texas, and Rice, from Alabama, were the most vocal
U.S. backers of the Gaza evacuation. Hurricane Katrina hit the states in
between Texas and Alabama – Louisiana and Mississippi.

What America is about to experience is the lifting of God's hand
of protection, the implementation of His judgment on the nation
most responsible for endangering the land and people of Israel.

America needs to repent. From Bush, Rice and the State Department
on down. America must repent for actively opposing God's plan for Israel
as revealed in His Word.

The lifting of God's hand of protection.
And tonight in Texas. Houston You have a problem.

"Thus saith the Lord..IN THE DAY that AMERICA FORSAKES ISRAEL,
that is when I WILL BEGIN TO POUR OUT MY WRATH...WRATH which
America so richly deserves, but WHICH I HAVE HELD BACK BECAUSE
OF AMERICA'S SUPPORT OF ISRAEL. THUS SAITH THE LORD!"

-Spoken by a Messianic Jewish young man in Beth Messiah Synagogue,
1979, Washington DC area.

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Compare with: Darkness of the Disengagement

Torah code at http://exodus2006.com/fab/disengagement2.htm

(5766 Hebrew Calendar = October 4, 2005 - September 22, 2006)

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The Feast of The Trumpets

The following are all the different names used to describe
the first day of the seventh month in the Jewish calendar:
Rosh HaShanah (New Year) Yom Teruah (The Day of the
Awakening Blast or The Day of the Awakening Shout; see
Mat 25:6 the parable of the virgins) Feast of Trumpets Yom
HaDin (Day of Judgment) Yom HaZikkaron (Day of Remembrance)
Yom HaKeseh (Day of the Hiding or Hidden Day;
see Mat 24:36 'the day nor the hour' )

Below is a translated portion of a 109 page thesis written
on the 2nd Coming by Past. J.A.A. Slootmans. This thesis
was originally written in Afrikaans with english commentaries
The bulk of the thesis gives important proof that biblical events
fullfill Judaic Feasts, events such as the Resurrection of Christ
and the day of Pentecost in Acts.

There are some Feasts left and the good part is that those
feasts have been ordained very precise. Written on page 138
of this 159 page long thesis : "I can't find any other explanation
except to say without any doubt that the by God ordained day
for the fullfillment of 1Thes 4-16/17 (the next resurrection order)
will be at a future Feast of the trumpets."

The Feast of the Trumpets is called in hebrew "Rosh Hashanah"
and is the start of the new Jewish Jear. With the Jewish calender
you can see very easy when this feast is observed.

The start of the Feast of Trumpets has begun with the
foundation of Israel in 1948 marking the first trumpet,
then the expantion of the territories and the capture of
Jerusalem in june 1967 the second trumpet, and right now
we are waiting for the 3rd and last blow of the horn; 'the
last trump' as Paul called it.

Christ clearly stated several times that the fullfillment
of that day of Rapture will be on the Feast of the start of
the new Jewish year. This day is known among Jews as
'The day no one knows' or 'the thief in the night'.

This feast is celebrated over two days because of the
difficulty in olden times of making sure that everyone
marked the new moon on the same day. To make sure
nobody missed it, two days were appointed

When the Shofar is blown on Rosh HaShana, three different
types of noises are sounded. The first is a 'teki'ah.' This
sound is one long continuous burst. The second sound is
called a 'shevarim.' It consists of three shorter blasts.
The third sound is the 'teruah.' The teruah is a set of
nine short bursts of sound, a staccato blast. The Gemora in
Rosh HaShana tells us that these later two sounds are meant
to sound like crying: '. . . drawing a long sigh. . .
uttering short piercing cries.' The Ben Ish Chai writes
that these sounds are meant to contrast with the tekiah.
The tekiah, he explains, is a sound of triumph and joy,
while the shevarim and teruah are sounds of pain and
suffering. Because of the opposing feelings they represent,
when one blows the shofar, he is not to connect the tekiah
with the others, by blowing the sounds with the same
breath.

Note: In 2005AD Rosh Hashanah begins the night of
Monday October 3, 2005
 
Vic said:
You know what amazed me? When they were talking about that one part of NO, they called it the West Bank.
Von, the Mississippi runs north/south. According to my secretary, who is from N.O., they call one side the East bank and the other, the West bank. Seems as though they've been calling them that for hundreds of years. :-D

Oh, if you really want to know about God and His Wrath, read about the trumpets, bowls and vials in Revelation.

I don't feel that this is God's Wrath, but I DO feel as though he's warning us.
 
Geo said:
As usual some will read it and start their objections the very
same moment.
Are you talking about me? :lol:

Bush, from Texas, and Rice, from Alabama, were the most vocal
U.S. backers of the Gaza evacuation. Hurricane Katrina hit the states in
between Texas and Alabama – Louisiana and Mississippi.
Might want to tell that to the people in Alabama... and parts of Florida too.

"Thus saith the Lord..IN THE DAY that AMERICA FORSAKES ISRAEL,
that is when I WILL BEGIN TO POUR OUT MY WRATH...WRATH which
America so richly deserves, but WHICH I HAVE HELD BACK BECAUSE
OF AMERICA'S SUPPORT OF ISRAEL. THUS SAITH THE LORD!"

-Spoken by a Messianic Jewish young man in Beth Messiah Synagogue,
1979, Washington DC area.
He ought to be more concerned about the Wrath that will come on his people.

Compare with: Darkness of the Disengagement

Torah code at http://exodus2006.com/fab/disengagement2.htm

(5766 Hebrew Calendar = October 4, 2005 - September 22, 2006)
Please, please don't tell me "we" are making predictions here...

http://exodus2006.com/
Escape from the End Times years: 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012

:o

The Feast of the Trumpets is called in hebrew "Rosh Hashanah"
and is the start of the new Jewish Jear. With the Jewish calender
you can see very easy when this feast is observed.

The start of the Feast of Trumpets has begun with the
foundation of Israel in 1948 marking the first trumpet,
then the expantion of the territories and the capture of
Jerusalem in june 1967 the second trumpet, and right now
we are waiting for the 3rd and last blow of the horn; [quote:0b516]'the
last trump' as Paul called it.
[/quote:0b516]
Ah, the part in bold, I agree. :D

The first Trump of God was actually blown here...

Exo 19:19 And when the voice of the trumpet sounded long, and waxed louder and louder, Moses spake, and God answered him by a voice.

Note: In 2005AD Rosh Hashanah begins the night of
Monday October 3, 2005
Correct, a.k.a. 29 Elul
 
Nikki- You know sometimes i am not real careful at how I word things. I think that is more what I had in mind, that God is giving us warnings. But what is next if we are not going to heed those warnings?




I don't believe that we need to repent from the president on down. I believe we need to repent from the church on up.
 
I need to expand on it, still in shock to read and hear these two today:

http://www.rapture2005.com

http://www.gjigt.com/Audio/AmBabKj2.rm

the second file is in "real audio" format, you should download it and hear it
until the end. Even if it hurts. Then read the first one again to be comforted.

I knew parts of it, and assumed other parts of it. It still comes as a shock
now that He speaks to us so urgently.


Last night I received this email:


Dear brethren, beloved in Christ,
Greetings, in Jesus' name.

The last time I wrote to God's people on Sept. 12, 2004 my wife
Martha was six (6) months pregnant. Today, almost a year later,
Sept. 5, 2005, she is now in her eighteenth (18th) month of
pregnancy. It is a miracle. It is a sign. The Lord spoke to me in
the fall of 2003 and said, "The child is a sign of destruction,
before the child is born there shall be destruction in America."
This has been fulfilled as New Orleans, Mississippi, and Florida
testify.

We shall all perish, except we repent.

God has resigned himself to destroy this nation, He has turned his
back to forsake it. Only destruction and misery lie ahead.

Back in the fall of 2004 God spoke to me that he was giving me three
(3) signs. The first sign was the child, the sign of destruction
before the birth. The second sign was that Florida would be ravished
by the end of September 2004. The third sign was that Miami, Florida
would be struck by a brutal blow from the hand of God. It would be
overwhelming. Chaos, sorrow, devastation, death, destruction. He had
me prophecy (prophesy) against the city.

The first two signs have been fulfilled. Florida was ravished by
hurricanes by the end of Sept. 2004. My wife is still with child
today and destruction in America has happened in the form of
Hurricane Katrina. New Orleans is gone. Mississippi destroyed. Soon
Miami, Florida will be devastated. God has commanded me to warn all
his people, Leave Miami, Florida! Flee out of Miami! New Orleans is
your example that God will make waste an entire city. Oh people of
God, hear the word of the Lord.

Oh, Miami, Miami,
Hear the word of the Lord.

I will cut off old and young.
I will cut off man and woman.

Your streets shall be full
Of chaos and destruction.

Your pomp shall cease,
Your haughtiness shall be brought low.

And I the Lord
Shall be exalted in judgment.

And ye shall know that I the Lord God, have brought this
Judgment against thee.


A servant of the Lord
Bro. Kirk Willow, Alaska
 
http://www.sidroth.org/news_mar05.htm

In October of 1991, former President George Bush (Sr.) put the United States directly in a confrontation with the holy God of Israel. It began with the Madrid Peace Process, which was a plan for Israel to give away parts of the covenant land for peace. The plan included Jerusalem, Judea, Samaria and Gaza.
At the exact time President Bush was initiating the Madrid Peace Process, the Perfect Storm developed in the North Atlantic and came 1,000 miles the “wrong†way and sent 30-foot waves smashing against the President’s home in Kennebunkport, Maine! When the President returned from Madrid, he went to Kennebunkport to oversee the rebuilding of his damaged home.
From this day until the present, awesome destructive events have hit the United States on the very day our government has pressured Israel to divide the covenant land.


I believe this is more than coincidence.
 
Nicolaj said:
... I believe this is more than coincidence.
I do remember this incident. :o Coincidence? NO. Wrath, I don't think so. Warning? I agree with that. It seems God did not intervene by stopping it , but instead allowed nature to take it's course; maybe even steered it's course. Will the general population understand this? :-?
 
Geo- I'm confused. I looked at these sites that you referenced to. Are you predicting that Jesus will come on a certain date? You have to clear that up for me since Jesus, Himself doesn't know when He will return. Did I misunderstand your message?
Also ? not to take away from the power of God but do you know this man personally whose wife has been pregnant for 18 months? A child can not nor would a doctor let a women carry a child for 18 months. I guess I am like Thomas. I would have to see this and read doctor reports to believe this. I am wondering how this has been kept from the public media.
I know God is not happy and that He can do anything but whoa. Who is this person?
 
von

I'm not predicting anything, all I said is I'm led to visit these sites
and am amazed what I found. This brother makes it clear regarding
his position on it:

http://wonderful1.com/wst_page3.html

I agree with him, we simply look at it without passing judgement,
however the "coincidences" presented are...all I say is wow.
What timing! Look at the news out of Gaza today, they get their
rightful share too. Looks like October will be a very intense month.

Regarding the baby: I don't know if it's for real, but right now think
it is, as the email came with a trustworthy recommendation

besides, I discussed it with my wife, and the first thing she said was
there was a previous case of a 18-month baby that was mentioned
in her local press with photo. So it happened before, as strange as it
may sound.

Also, I listened to the audio again today, and there is a witness at
the end with a phropecy regarding Florida that is identical in effective
result to the Miami phropecy.

These are already 2 witnesses.

Let's pray, at day and at night, and concentrate on Jesus now.
Repent from ALL our sins, our proudness and become humble before Him.
LET EVERYTHING THAT HAS BREATH PRAISE THE LORD!
 
I just wonered your position on the return of Christ. I will look at the site again to see if that is what is being done here. I am not pointing fingers or saying that God does not exhibit his anger through signs and wonders because I believe it. I am just careful.
 
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