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Antichrist is fully supported in last days. What's a new believer to do?

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His_nee (Jeff)

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Rambling on observations of a lifetime, growing up in the last days, watching the world and the church :
(Yhwh willing. Specifics addressed gradually as time permits. How to prepare according to Scripture perhaps the main objective, to avoid being 'surprised' as the enemies plan unfolds in the untied states and the world. )

As in germany when all the denominations accepted hitler as god's man right before and during the world war, except pentecostal denomination,(they are reported to be the only one that always opposed hitler),
so to in the world, in the end days, all the denominations including pentecostal? , are
being led to accept the leadership opposed to Yeshua and His people.

More and more, not less and less, wickedness throughout society and churches. Individual bible believing churches may be the only ones that recognize the world wide deception
and refuse the leadership (political and religious and more) that opposed Christ Jesus in these last days.

New believers will have to test everything, cannot take any 'leaders' word for it that their church is a true church, because all the churches say that (when if ever did the wolves or false prophets admit they are not the true church?).

Some people in every country already recognize the anti-christ agenda(plan), and see it being put into place.
Yhwh keeps for Himself a testimony among every people , for Himself, for His Own Name.

The anti-christ agenda (plan) is so pervasive, has been in place and has been being implemented for so long (long before our grand parents were born!)
that people just accept it without caring about it, or thinking they can do nothing about it. (which is true).

Worse, people will give honor and praise to the leaders who are opposed to Christ Jesus. Multitudes around the world give their allegiance to the anti-christ system and leaders. ((yes, even though it kills them and destroys their soul; even though Scripture , Yhwh's Word, clearly describes anti-christ and its operation)) !!

Not just common people, but church leaders in many cases(not all, as Yhwh keeps for Himself His people, His remnant).
They blithely tell their people, their members and whoever will listen "this is God's Way, Peace, Peace.... ... .... " but they have no peace,
and they adamantly oppose anyone who stands up to proclaim the truth. (this is already going on full steam in the world).

Schools and teachers and governments, tv and internet and books, stores and sciences and agencies,
pastors and revivals and "religious" education(official and unofficial)
are all being trained to accept the mark of the beast --- it's been going on a long long time. (without telling the truth of course; they never admit it will lead to accepting the mark of the beast--- by the time the mark (whatever it is) is implemented, it is already widely accepted as people have refused to seek the truth for their whole lifetime, so Yhwh gives them over to believe their own delusion... ... ... ... ...
 
Why would anyone serve a weak Jesus? Does He not have all power in Heaven and earth? Is He not the victor..
 
Rambling on observations of a lifetime, growing up in the last days, watching the world and the church :
(Yhwh willing. Specifics addressed gradually as time permits. How to prepare according to Scripture perhaps the main objective, to avoid being 'surprised' as the enemies plan unfolds in the untied states and the world. )

As in germany when all the denominations accepted hitler as god's man right before and during the world war, except pentecostal denomination,(they are reported to be the only one that always opposed hitler),
so to in the world, in the end days, all the denominations including pentecostal? , are
being led to accept the leadership opposed to Yeshua and His people.

More and more, not less and less, wickedness throughout society and churches. Individual bible believing churches may be the only ones that recognize the world wide deception
and refuse the leadership (political and religious and more) that opposed Christ Jesus in these last days.

New believers will have to test everything, cannot take any 'leaders' word for it that their church is a true church, because all the churches say that (when if ever did the wolves or false prophets admit they are not the true church?).

Some people in every country already recognize the anti-christ agenda(plan), and see it being put into place.
Yhwh keeps for Himself a testimony among every people , for Himself, for His Own Name.

The anti-christ agenda (plan) is so pervasive, has been in place and has been being implemented for so long (long before our grand parents were born!)
that people just accept it without caring about it, or thinking they can do nothing about it. (which is true).

Worse, people will give honor and praise to the leaders who are opposed to Christ Jesus. Multitudes around the world give their allegiance to the anti-christ system and leaders. ((yes, even though it kills them and destroys their soul; even though Scripture , Yhwh's Word, clearly describes anti-christ and its operation)) !!

Not just common people, but church leaders in many cases(not all, as Yhwh keeps for Himself His people, His remnant).
They blithely tell their people, their members and whoever will listen "this is God's Way, Peace, Peace.... ... .... " but they have no peace,
and they adamantly oppose anyone who stands up to proclaim the truth. (this is already going on full steam in the world).

Schools and teachers and governments, tv and internet and books, stores and sciences and agencies,
pastors and revivals and "religious" education(official and unofficial)
are all being trained to accept the mark of the beast --- it's been going on a long long time. (without telling the truth of course; they never admit it will lead to accepting the mark of the beast--- by the time the mark (whatever it is) is implemented, it is already widely accepted as people have refused to seek the truth for their whole lifetime, so Yhwh gives them over to believe their own delusion... ... ... ... ...

2 Thessalonians 2
3 Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition,


2 Corinthians 4
3 But even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing,
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Why would anyone serve a weak Jesus? Does He not have all power in Heaven and earth? Is He not the victor..

It is the consequence of an immature self centered eschatology clung to by many Christians who err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God. The OT analogue is expressed by the defeatists of Numbers 13,14 whereas today we should at least have the faith of Caleb and Joshua given everything Christ has overcome for us.
 
God is Alpha and Omega the creator of good and the creator of that which is evil. Evil that produces rebellion was cast out and has been working towards his end since the beginning causing the fall away by deceptive devices. God spoke truth by His very words, but man fell from truth by deceit and lies. Less you be taken as a thief in the night you need to forsake what man says and get back to truth for what God has already spoken to us by His Holy Spirit.
 
2 Thessalonians 2
3 Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition,


2 Corinthians 4
3 But even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing,
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Do you think, is there an indication in Scripture, Is the "falling away" everyone or even every official 'church' group, or do any manage to escape the oppression and control of "the mark" ?

I think from Revelation that when the anit-christ / beast takes control, there is no (apparent) organized opposition to it.

(I haven't seen anything in Revelation or other Scripture that indicates any 'group' at all opposes the anit-christ with any success - the whole world looks like it is brought most willing to its knees serving the liar opposed to Christ Jesus.)

(Apparently and obviously instead of bowing the knee in obedience to the Lord Jesus).

Are then all the 'remnant' killed ? (martyred) for their faith ? Or do some physically survive through it all ?

I guess what I'm searching for, instead of 'who is the anit-christ?' , who is opposed to the anit-christ ? Especially who will be able to resist getting the 'mark', whatever the 'mark' is ?
 
Those people who refuse to take the Mark (computer chip?) will soon become homeless and then probably sent to some form of prison or concentration camp for being a "terrorist".
The "uncountable multitude dressed in white robes" are the people who were martyred during the Tribulation for remaining loyal to Jesus Christ.
 
Do you think, is there an indication in Scripture, Is the "falling away" everyone or even every official 'church' group, or do any manage to escape the oppression and control of "the mark" ?

Are then all the 'remnant' killed ? (martyred) for their faith ? Or do some physically survive through it all ?

1 Thessalonians 4
15 For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep.

1 Corinthians 15
51 Behold, I tell you a mystery: We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed—


If no one survived, there would be no mention of the catching up.


I guess what I'm searching for, instead of 'who is the anit-christ?' , who is opposed to the anit-christ ? Especially who will be able to resist getting the 'mark', whatever the 'mark' is ?

The elect for sure.


Matthew 24
24 For false christs and false prophets will rise and show great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect.

Revelation 13
15 He was granted power to give breath to the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak and cause as many as would not worship the image of the beast to be killed.


I believe there will be others besides the elect but have no clue who they would be.
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COOL, thank you! :)

I recently read a possible idea about the 'others' besides the elect, who might even be 'elect' in Yhwh's Plan ? , that they without realizing it necessarily will be or may be the ones who help the chosen ones of Yhwh to survive (roughly like Schindler's list) by giving them
a "Hiding Place" (like corrie ten boom in the holocaust nazi germany) to hide from the gestapo in the near future
and / or food and drink when none is available to be purchased or picked/ gleaned.

i.e. gentle (or not? hmmm. maybe rough?) souls who none-the-less help the martyrs on the run or in hiding.....
 
There called internment camps conspiracy people have produced evidence that's rock solid but what they don't do is give you the way out a door an escape hatch all they do is instill fear that adds to the already existing fear, the secular population will go as far as mentioning antichrist about the coming new world order all leading to a dead end... Supposedly homeland security has been buying up oodles and oodles of ammo and for what... This is an excellent time to relieve fear to guide people to Jesus lets not let this fear tactic go to waste..

tob
 
Perfect love cast out all fear.

1Jn_4:18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.
 
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true peace >>>
Jesus Christ reigns! There will be no struggle by Jesus Christ with Antichrist. In moment of time, where the entire history of the world climaxes, Christ in an instant will destroy the man of sin. When Jesus Christ stands on the Mount of Olives, He just opens His mouth and the enemy is entirely all at once burst into flame! (a vision or revelation someone had)
Therefore, do not fear!

The truth of the Antichrist is dreadful. The church must suffer under him, too. But we are not to fear for a moment. And when you see the Antichrist in the future, be not in terror. For in that darkest hour the world has ever known, we will be doing the same as we have all our lives, waiting "with uplifted heads" for the coming of Jesus Christ, Who will redeem us from all distress.

the outlook is grim for the usa, but not for the believers (except the need to yet suffer for a little while!)


(p.s. obama's not popular enough to be the bad guy i think.... in spite of the search results below)
(but he is paving the way for whoever it is)

K9 Safe Search >>> ( political antichrist usa)
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The Antichrist - Protestant Reformed Churches in America
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When reading the the Books of John he does not use the term antichrist to describe one person. That is my opinion and other dont agree.:)
According to Scripture antichrist is described like this...

1Jn_2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
1Jn_4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
2Jn_1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
man uses fear to push his agenda.
 
correct - it is not just one person (but there may be one as indicated in some Scriptures.

it is actually a whole other kingdom - the kingdom of the enemy of Christ and those who serve the enemy instead of serving Christ.

the whole world accepts the enemies kingdom, putting their trust in it instead of in Christ Jesus and instead of in Yhwh's Word and Plan and Promise..... and when they put to death the believers, they actually think they are doing service to 'god'....
John 16:2 - Bible Gateway - BibleGateway.com
Yes, the time is coming when those who kill you will think they are offering service to God. John 16:2 X. Back X. John 16:2 (NET) | In Context | Whole Chapter. 2 ...
 
Whether it's correct or not, the term "antichrist" has become the generic term used to identify the person known as "the beast", "666", and any other term that is used to identify him.

President Obama is NOT the antichrist. To the people who believe this, EVERY Democratic American President is believed to be the antichrist - yet they NEVER claim that a Republican President is the antichrist. That held true for Bill Clinton and it will be the same for Hillary, if she were to win.
 
Do you think, is there an indication in Scripture, Is the "falling away" everyone or even every official 'church' group, or do any manage to escape the oppression and control of "the mark" ?

I think from Revelation that when the anit-christ / beast takes control, there is no (apparent) organized opposition to it.

(I haven't seen anything in Revelation or other Scripture that indicates any 'group' at all opposes the anit-christ with any success - the whole world looks like it is brought most willing to its knees serving the liar opposed to Christ Jesus.)

(Apparently and obviously instead of bowing the knee in obedience to the Lord Jesus).

Are then all the 'remnant' killed ? (martyred) for their faith ? Or do some physically survive through it all ?

I guess what I'm searching for, instead of 'who is the anit-christ?' , who is opposed to the anit-christ ? Especially who will be able to resist getting the 'mark', whatever the 'mark' is ?

We had better oppose bowing down to the antichrist system. Not by fighting against something that has to be, but to stand in the holy place, which is faith in Christ and know if we are persecuted even to death we will always be with the Lord forever.

Matthew 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand).
Luke12:4 And I say unto you my friends, Be not afraid of them that kill the body, and after that have no more that they can do.
Matthew10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
 
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