Beer: Evil Crutch, Or Godsend?

[Hidden In Him]

Beer: Evil Crutch, Or Godsend?



So I was going through a spell of depression over the last few days, and when I do it affects me so strongly that my body tenses up. I don't like resorting to alcohol and just try and pray my way through whenever possible. But last night I finally just said, "Beer. I'm gonna go get some beer." So I drove to the Walmart and got two six packs of Corona Extra bottles and came home. They're supposed to be just for me for emergencies like this, but my wife sometimes drinks them instead so we'll see).

Within about 15 minutes of drinking the first beer my depression left and my body fell like it downshifted from 6th gear stress down to 1st gear cruising peacefully through a suburban neighborhood. It was truly wonderful. No side effects after having a couple yesterday either (I think I only drank one and half).

Posting this thread because that truly worked better than any drug I have ever taken in my life, and thought I would post this in Godly Health for those who can drink responsibly. I know some are afflicted with alcoholism, and I would not recommend it for them or for anyone who planned to drink around them. We need to be conscious of the weak and not destroy them through our freedom. But anyone else have any opinions here? I've had this happen before when I was down, and while I never use it as an addiction or crutch, I have to say. If you drink a beer or two when you're seriously down or physically exhausted, like taking a couple Tylenol or Advil, it can truly work wonders for both body and soul.

Blessings in Christ,
Hidden In Him

 

[jasonc]

Beer: Evil Crutch, Or Godsend?

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So I was going through a spell of depression over the last few days, and when I do it affects me so strongly that my body tenses up. I don't like resorting to alcohol and just try and pray my way through whenever possible. But last night I finally just said, "Beer. I'm gonna go get some beer." So I drove to the Walmart and got two six packs of Corona Extra bottles and came home. They're supposed to be just for me for emergencies like this, but my wife sometimes drinks them instead so we'll see).

Within about 15 minutes of drinking the first beer my depression left and my body fell like it downshifted from 6th gear stress down to 1st gear cruising peacefully through a suburban neighborhood. It was truly wonderful. No side effects after having a couple yesterday either (I think I only drank one and half).

Posting this thread because that truly worked better than any drug I have ever taken in my life, and thought I would post this in Godly Health for those who can drink responsibly. I know some are afflicted with alcoholism, and I would not recommend it for them or for anyone who planned to drink around them. We need to be conscious of the weak and not destroy them through our freedom. But anyone else have any opinions here? I've had this happen before when I was down, and while I never use it as an addiction or crutch, I have to say. If you drink a beer or two like taking a couple Tylenol or Advil, it can truly work wonders for both body and soul.

Blessings in Christ,
Hidden In Him

I wouldn't. It's just the worse thing for PTSD. You become hooked.

Get mad? Stay that for hours? I can drink a beer versus avoiding the cause of learning to control the anger? Trigger, hit the bottle, versus learning to train the mind.

I can get triggered by jets if I don't watch it when they are close enough.

 

[Hidden In Him]

I wouldn't. It's just the worse thing for PTSD. You become hooked.

Get mad? Stay that for hours? I can drink a beer versus avoiding the cause of learning to control the anger? Trigger, hit the bottle, versus learning to train the mind.

I can get triggered by jets if I don't watch it when they are close enough.

Yeah, I understand it. Not for everybody, and good post. I just think it's one of those cases where there shouldn't be judgmentalism either way.

I know that I can't be the only one who is actually helped by a little alcohol medicinally, much like the wine Paul advised Timothy to drink for his stomach. But I agree with you. There are multiple reasons why I can become a crutch for some, all of which are to be avoided.

 

[bramblewild]

I was raised thinking that beer and other such drinks were wrong and evil. Although I very rarely drink myself, I'm fine with them nowadays.

Alcoholic beverages were common not so long ago, and almost everyone drank them.

Concerning beer becoming a crutch, that could be said about many things--eating, binge watching, reading, no doubt other activities people do when they are feeling down.

Psalm 104
14 You cause the grass to grow for the livestock and plants for man to cultivate, that he may bring forth food from the earth 15 and wine to gladden the heart of man, oil to make his face shine and bread to strengthen man’s heart.

Proverbs 31
4 It is not for kings, O Lemuel, it is not for kings to drink wine, or for rulers to take strong drink, 5 lest they drink and forget what has been decreed and pervert the rights of all the afflicted. 6 Give strong drink to the one who is perishing, and wine to those in bitter distress; 7 let them drink and forget their poverty and remember their misery no more.

The Bible is not completely negative about wine and other such beverages, though it does give lots of warnings and cautions. Both the good and the bad need to be considered.

 

[jasonc]

Yeah, I understand it. Not for everybody, and good post. I just think it's one of those cases where there shouldn't be judgmentalism either way.

I know that I can't be the only one who is actually helped by a little alcohol medicinally, much like the wine Paul advised Timothy to drink for his stomach. But I agree with you. There are multiple reasons why I can become a crutch for some, all of which are to be avoided.

I'm not a legalist

I was raised thinking that beer and other such drinks were wrong and evil. Although I very rarely drink myself, I'm fine with them nowadays.

Alcoholic beverages were common not so long ago, and almost everyone drank them.

Concerning beer becoming a crutch, that could be said about many things--eating, binge watching, reading, no doubt other activities people do when they are feeling down.

Psalm 104
14 You cause the grass to grow for the livestock and plants for man to cultivate, that he may bring forth food from the earth 15 and wine to gladden the heart of man, oil to make his face shine and bread to strengthen man’s heart.

Proverbs 31
4 It is not for kings, O Lemuel, it is not for kings to drink wine, or for rulers to take strong drink, 5 lest they drink and forget what has been decreed and pervert the rights of all the afflicted. 6 Give strong drink to the one who is perishing, and wine to those in bitter distress; 7 let them drink and forget their poverty and remember their misery no more.

The Bible is not completely negative about wine and other such beverages, though it does give lots of warnings and cautions. Both the good and the bad need to be considered.

You can work while using reading, driving etc, but not beer.

Car cuts me off?

 

[bramblewild]

you can work with using reading .drive etc but not beer .

car cuts ne off ? chig one one way ?

Could you maybe try to write that again? I'm not sure what you're trying to say.

 

[jasonc]

Could you maybe try to write that again? I'm not sure what you're trying to say.

I can use exercise. I was livid at my wife when I did this video .

I was very angry and sad in my truck when that started. I had to put that on pause and start to walk and recall the history you hear. I looked it up. When all was done, I wasn't as mad.

Beer simply buried that, rather than take the emotions away. It cools me down and channels the energy into positive actions. Rather then seethe I can cool off then go handle the cause .

Beer doesn't do that. Exercise or as in my case a walk of history. Several videos, I have done photo walks for that reason. Another one hour walk of recollection following a route pattern and recalling one hundred years of old history distracted me from the pit of depression.

 

[Hidden In Him]

I can use exercise. I was livid at my wife when I did this video .

I was very angry and sad in my truck when that started. I had to put that on pause and start to walk and recall the history you hear. I looked it up. When all was done, I wasn't as mad.

Beer simply buried that, rather than take the emotions away. It cools me down and channels the energy into positive actions. Rather then seethe I can cool off then go handle the cause .

Beer doesn't do that. Exercise or as in my case a walk of history. Several videos, I have done photo walks for that reason. Another one hour walk of recollection following a route pattern and recalling one hundred years of old history distracted me from the pit of depression.

I'm glad you found other ways to deal with things, Jason. When I'm angry, drinking alcohol (even a little) would be the worst thing to do IMO. I'm already aggressive and I need to keep my head. The thing I was talking about was depression, which is different. I'm not volatile at those times, just very down is all.

 

[bramblewild]

Not all of us can do our jobs while reading, and while going for a drive may help, driving can also cause frustration and bad tempers, too, and have you seen the price of gas?

Almost anything we do to calm ourselves can become a negative; people who eat when they are stressed may well eat too much, people who read in such situations may become more focused on the imagined worlds they read about than things in the real world. If I may at least for the moment define "gluttony" as an over-the-top appetite for anything good and not just for food, we tend to become gluttons for anything we consider good, even to the point where that good thing come to be harmful.

There are very real negative effects to becoming a glutton to alcohol, and I blame nobody for being very cautious with such beverages; but that still doesn't change the fact that one of the proverbs I quoted in my earlier post says that God gave us wine to gladden our hearts. I leave it to each person to determine their own limits.

 

[jasonc]

I'm glad you found other ways to deal with things, Jason. When I'm angry, drinking alcohol (even a little) would be the worst thing to do IMO. I'm already aggressive and I need to keep my head. The thing I was talking about was depression, which is different. I'm not volatile at those times, just very down is all.

while not healthy ,PTSD has a manic or depression side .I have both .usually the depression .
beer is used with that by some

as far as using alcohol for a minor issue .

thats a symptom of a problem .if you get mad over well I will use my self .I can post nuisance meters to read a s homeowner set it up that way .I should not stay bothered for a while but I do . is that worth ones health ?

 

[WIP]

Not all of us can do our jobs while reading, and while going for a drive may help, driving can also cause frustration and bad tempers, too, and have you seen the price of gas?

I remember in 1980 when Iraq invaded Iran and the result was an interruption of the world oil supplies. Gasoline jumped from about $0.60/gal to over $1.30/gal. very quickly and there were shortages in many places. According to two different inflation calculators that I found, $1.30 per gallon in 1980 is equivalent to over $5.00 per gallon today.

For me, we didn't panic but took steps to reduce our costs by ride sharing, combining trips, walking when we could, or riding bicycle. I remember going to a community college and walking about a mile every day to get to my classes.

 

[WIP]

Almost anything we do to calm ourselves can become a negative; people who eat when they are stressed may well eat too much, people who read in such situations may become more focused on the imagined worlds they read about than things in the real world. If I may at least for the moment define "gluttony" as an over-the-top appetite for anything good and not just for food, we tend to become gluttons for anything we consider good, even to the point where that good thing come to be harmful.

I remember in early 2020 when the pandemic got a foot-hold. Rather than panic, I just remembered to whom I trust. In fact, I recall posting on my FB page that there is nothing to fear for God has everything under control. It was difficult to watch as peoples' fears were brought to the forefront.

 

[jasonc]

I remember in early 2020 when the pandemic got a foot-hold. Rather than panic, I just remembered to whom I trust. In fact, I recall posting on my FB page that there is nothing to fear for God has everything under control. It was difficult to watch as peoples' fears were brought to the forefront.

gas was five per gallon when I was tossing papers