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Celibacy (along with singleness and virginity as a whole) - a Blessing or a Curse?

This is a huge struggle for me, and I've been thinking about it for a long time. In the creation week, all things created by God were good, nothing is evil. This is often used to rebuke the argument that blame God for the evils of this world. The one and only thing - or status that's NOT good, though, is man's solitude. Therefore God made woman out of man, and the two shall become one flesh, that is marriage as an institution of civilization ordained by God.

And the Lord God said, “It is not good that man should be alone; I will make him a helper comparable to him.”(Gen. 2:18)
A man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and they shall become one flesh. (Gen. 2:24)


However, when it comes to the New Testament, it seems that man's solitude is no longer a bad thing, but rather a gift. Reading through the gospel, I've just come to realize that on one hand, Jesus respected women, he had always been gentle and kind to various women, which was well advanced of his time when women were deemed as property. Many women sponsored him and followed him, some followed him to his crucifixion while the disciples had fled, at the end they followed him to the tomb where he rose from the grave and appeared to them, Mary Magdalene, the first witness, was honored as the "disciple of disciples"; on the other hand, he was never married, he had no romantic attachment with any of those women.

His disciples said to Him, “If such is the case of the man with his wife, it is better not to marry.” But He said to them, “All cannot accept this saying, but only those to whom it has been given: For there are eunuchs who were born thus from their mother’s womb, and there are eunuchs who were made eunuchs by men, and there are eunuchs who have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven’s sake. He who is able to accept it, let him accept it. (Matt. 19:10-12)

Later in 1 Cor. 7, in Paul's advice, marriage - and dating - is rather a distraction that lures you away from the Lord, its only purpose is to contain carnal desire so you won't succumb to the lust of the flesh. He expected his followers to stay single and serve the lord as he was.

It is good for a man not to touch a woman. Nevertheless, because of sexual immorality, let each man have his own wife, and let each woman have her own husband. (1 Cor. 7:1-2)
For I wish that all men were even as I myself. But each one has his own gift from God, one in this manner and another in that. But I say to the unmarried and to the widows: It is good for them if they remain even as I am; (1 Cor. 7:7-8)
It is good for a man to remain as he is: Are you bound to a wife? Do not seek to be loosed. Are you loosed from a wife? Do not seek a wife. (1 Cor. 7:26-27)
But this I say, brethren, the time is short, so that from now on even those who have wives should be as though they had none. (1 Cor. 7:28)
But I want you to be without care. He who is unmarried cares for the things of the Lord—how he may please the Lord. But he who is married cares about the things of the world—how he may please his wife. (1 Cor. 7:32-33)
So then he who gives her in marriage does well, but he who does not give her in marriage does better. (1 Cor. 7:38)


At the end, there's the wedding feast of the Lamb in heaven, that's when our Lord finally marries the Church, his pure, beautiful bride. More or less this gives me the impression, that if we're truly committed to conform to His image and follow His footprints, we shouldn't marry or date in this life, our eternal union is with Christ in the next life, in this life we should serve the Lord only as monks and nuns.

And I heard, as it were, the voice of a great multitude, as the sound of many waters and as the sound of mighty thunderings, saying, “Alleluia! For theLord God Omnipotent reigns! Let us be glad and rejoice and give Him glory, for the marriage of the Lamb has come, and His wife has made herself ready.” And to her it was granted to be arrayed in fine linen, clean and bright, for the fine linen is the righteous acts of the saints. Then he said to me, “Write: ‘Blessed are those who are called to the marriage supper of the Lamb!’”(Rev. 19:6-9)

So I'd like to know how you guys think about marriage and celibacy from a biblical perspective, whether celibary is really a gift, "even though it's not good for man to be alone". To be fair, marriage itself is neutral, what really matters is whom you marry. In theory, a good partner could strengthen your faith in Christ and hold you accountable, a bad partner could lure your away from Christ and drain you dry, but there's no guarantee that everyone could find such a good partner, God didn't promsie anybody an ideal husband or wife. If you think He does, and you go to church for dating as the primary purpose, then that's prosperity gospel, that's idolatry.
 
Hey All,
I don't view celibacy as a gift. True , for some, like priests and nuns, it is a calling. (I don't know how they figure out it's a calling. Maybe consult a priest?) For the rest, it is an individual choice. God gave us life and the freedom to choose how we live it.

If a person wants to be alone, so be it. But what happens when you get to 60yo, and you have no other immediate family, and you realize you truly are alone. Plus there is no going back to fix your situation. You will never have children. You will never hold a grandchild in your arms. That's a lot to give up.

Keep walking everybody.
May God bless,
Taz
 
Revelation 14 describes the 144,000 as virgins. Without a doubt, the Bible describes virginity as a blessing. Regardless of how you view Revelation: literal, allegory, preterist, pretrib, whatever: the 144,000 are virgins, and they are portrayed by the Bible as good. Not bad. However, back in the beginning, in Genesis, God did create a helpmate for us, and God explicitly says that is good. And that is what virginity is for.
 
Revelation 14 describes the 144,000 as virgins. Without a doubt, the Bible describes virginity as a blessing. Regardless of how you view Revelation: literal, allegory, preterist, pretrib, whatever: the 144,000 are virgins, and they are portrayed by the Bible as good. Not bad. However, back in the beginning, in Genesis, God did create a helpmate for us, and God explicitly says that is good. And that is what virginity is for.
Revelation is highly symbolic, it's full of scriptural references, it's unwise to take anything like this literally. By hermaneutic principle, interpreting the bible with the bible, then in this case, it is plausible that these 144,000 are not literal virgins, but righteous saints who do not commit SPIRITUAL idolatry with the great harlot of Babylon.

“Come, I will show you the judgment of the great harlot who sits on many waters, with whom the kings of the earth committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth were made drunk with the wine of her fornication." (Rev. 17:1-2)

Also, by biblical criteria, only adult Israel men above 20 from the twelve tribes are counted, no woman, child or gentile is included. Maybe they belong to the Great Multitude, we don't know, but you get the point.

Take a census of all the congregation of the children of Israel, by their families, by their fathers’ houses, according to the number of names, every male individually, from twenty years old and above—all who are able to go to war in Israel. (Num. 1:2-3)
 
Hey All,
I don't view celibacy as a gift. True , for some, like priests and nuns, it is a calling. (I don't know how they figure out it's a calling. Maybe consult a priest?) For the rest, it is an individual choice. God gave us life and the freedom to choose how we live it.

If a person wants to be alone, so be it. But what happens when you get to 60yo, and you have no other immediate family, and you realize you truly are alone. Plus there is no going back to fix your situation. You will never have children. You will never hold a grandchild in your arms. That's a lot to give up.

Keep walking everybody.
May God bless,
Taz
Oftentimes it's not a choice. If you're a migrant worker or you're enlisted in the military, chances are, there's simply no woman available. In other cases you're forced to be a workaholic, you're totally consumed by your job, you've got no time or energy to date. There's no such freedom as you think.

You know, it really puzzles and amazes me, that all over the world, it's always the religious and conservative groups who value dating, marriage, family and childrearing above money and career, while it is the secular and liberal groups who truly live up to these expectations by staying single and serving their god(s).
 
Revelation is highly symbolic, it's full of scriptural references, it's unwise to take anything like this literally. By hermaneutic principle, interpreting the bible with the bible, then in this case, it is plausible that these 144,000 are not literal virgins, but righteous saints who do not commit SPIRITUAL idolatry with the great harlot of Babylon.
Let's not call Revelation "symbolic" to the point that we don't treat it as Scripture at all.

The fact of the matter is, the 144,000 are virgins, and that is treated to be a good thing. A blessing. Even if it was symbolic, you wouldn't use a bad thing to symbolize a good thing. Revelation--SCRIPTURE--clearly says virginity is a blessing.
 
Let's not call Revelation "symbolic" to the point that we don't treat it as Scripture at all.

The fact of the matter is, the 144,000 are virgins, and that is treated to be a good thing. A blessing. Even if it was symbolic, you wouldn't use a bad thing to symbolize a good thing. Revelation--SCRIPTURE--clearly says virginity is a blessing.
Then why is it NOT good for man to be alone?
 
It isn't good for anybody to be alone. In fact nobody can survive on their own. Yes, marriage is not for everybody, but humans are social animals, we all need social interactions with other people.
I am glad that my rebirth from God's seed took care of my old "human problem".
BTW, Jesus didn't marry.
 
Let's not call Revelation "symbolic" to the point that we don't treat it as Scripture at all.

The fact of the matter is, the 144,000 are virgins, and that is treated to be a good thing. A blessing. Even if it was symbolic, you wouldn't use a bad thing to symbolize a good thing. Revelation--SCRIPTURE--clearly says virginity is a blessing.
There is a lot more to Rev 14:4 that implies virginity itself may not be in view, or may not be the only thing in view. The hint is "these who have not defiled themselves with women;" being married and having sex is not defiling.
 
Later in 1 Cor. 7, in Paul's advice, marriage - and dating - is rather a distraction that lures you away from the Lord, its only purpose is to contain carnal desire so you won't succumb to the lust of the flesh. He expected his followers to stay single and serve the lord as he was.
I don't think Paul ever "expected his followers to stay single and serve the lord as he was;" he just encouraged it.
 
I believe from what I have read in God's Word and verified through witnessing that one of the most powerful desires God has placed in our in us , even more powerful than the desire for sex, particularly as the age shortens the window of opportunity , is the desire to hold a baby in our arms that came to us by God's means of husband and wife uniting in sex.
If you look into the scripture on this you will find that a fate worse than death in those times was to be without children.
For both the husband & wife.
The one advantage they had in those days in this regard was there was always hope of a child , and that kept the sex going for as long as there was hope.
We don't have that advantage today , in that with medical knowledge being what it is an inability to have a child can be determined in a person in their twenties .
Such a tragedy for people with the strong desire to have children.
I can easily see where that tragedy would make the prospect of sex almost a depressing activity .
It is possible for a married couple to both feel "alone" in the absence of what was once their greatest desire as a couple.
 
Oftentimes it's not a choice. If you're a migrant worker or you're enlisted in the military, chances are, there's simply no woman available. In other cases you're forced to be a workaholic, you're totally consumed by your job, you've got no time or energy to date. There's no such freedom as you think.

You know, it really puzzles and amazes me, that all over the world, it's always the religious and conservative groups who value dating, marriage, family and childrearing above money and career, while it is the secular and liberal groups who truly live up to these expectations by staying single and serving their god(s).
I hope you're being sarcastic !
 
I am glad that my rebirth from God's seed took care of my old "human problem".
BTW, Jesus didn't marry.
Well this is a dilemma. Yes Jesus didn’t marry any woman during his ministry, that’s because he’s symbolically married to the church. The purpose of an earthly marriage is to reflect this sacred Union of our relationship with Christ through the relationship of husband and wife.
 
I don't think Paul ever "expected his followers to stay single and serve the lord as he was;" he just encouraged it.
Well this depends on how you read of his tone in 1 Cor. 7:7 - "For I wish that all men were even as I myself." According to most sermons I've listened to on this passage, singleness is optimal, but marriage is NOT a sin. This is what puzzles me, I can't wrap my brain around it, because as I mentioned before, "all over the world, it's always the religious and conservative groups who value dating, marriage, family and childrearing above money and career, while it is the secular and liberal groups who truly live up to these expectations by staying single and serving their god(s)." One pastor said that he used to work at Wall Street, his former colleagues and friends were filthy rich and they lived luxuriously like the prodigal son, but none of them was married, none of them had kids, they were totally commited to the worship of mammon.
 
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Well this is a dilemma.
Not really.
God's pronouncement on Adam doesn't necessarily apply to the rest of mankind.
Yes Jesus didn’t marry any woman during his ministry, that’s because he’s symbolically married to the church. The purpose of an earthly marriage is to reflect this sacred Union of our relationship with Christ through the relationship of husband and wife.
I hope you can see that so sinner is able to partake in that union.
 
Not really.
God's pronouncement on Adam doesn't necessarily apply to the rest of mankind.
That was the original design. "Moses, because of the hardness of your hearts, permitted you to divorce your wives, but from the beginning it was not so."
I hope you can see that so sinner is able to partake in that union.
I'm just afraid that I've missed it out, that I would never know what such as union feels like without personal experience.
 
That was the original design. "Moses, because of the hardness of your hearts, permitted you to divorce your wives, but from the beginning it was not so."
Divorce wasn't in the original design.
Jesus said..."For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it." (Matt 19:12)
Those remaining celibate for the kingdom of God's sake will be blessed.
I'm just afraid that I've missed it out, that I would never know what such as union feels like without personal experience.
Why wait to find out ?.
Repent now, while you have some life left with which to glorify God !
 
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