Could You Recognize Christ if He Did Return

[The First Witness]

What if the son of Man is already here and we cannot recognize him?

This is supported easily by:

Matthew 16:13-17 When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am? 14 And they said, Some [say that thou art] John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets. 15 He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? 16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. 17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed [it] unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.

Matthew 17:10-13 And his disciples asked him, saying, Why then say the scribes that Elias must first come? And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elias truly shall first come, and restore all things. But I say unto you, That Elias is come already, and they knew him not, but have done unto him whatsoever they listed. Likewise shall also the Son of man suffer of them. Then the disciples understood that he spake unto them of John the Baptist.

Do you think you could recognize him?

 

[LastDayRemnant]

Oh i think we will recognize him. When he returns it is gonna be a spectacular event.

Matthew 24,
27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

Rev, 6
13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.

14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.

15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;

16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:

17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?

 

[matt]

What if the son of Man is already here and we cannot recognize him?

This is supported easily by:

Matthew 16:13-17 When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am? 14 And they said, Some [say that thou art] John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets. 15 He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? 16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. 17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed [it] unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.

Matthew 17:10-13 And his disciples asked him, saying, Why then say the scribes that Elias must first come? And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elias truly shall first come, and restore all things. But I say unto you, That Elias is come already, and they knew him not, but have done unto him whatsoever they listed. Likewise shall also the Son of man suffer of them. Then the disciples understood that he spake unto them of John the Baptist.

Do you think you could recognize him?

I can definitely say he IS NOT here now except in spirit. Who would he be because I know of know perfect man on this earth...?

 

[reznwerks]

What if the son of Man is already here and we cannot recognize him?

This is supported easily by:Matthew 16:13-17 When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am? 14 And they said, Some [say that thou art] John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets. 15 He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? 16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. 17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed [it] unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.



Matthew 17:10-13 And his disciples asked him, saying, Why then say the scribes that Elias must first come? And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elias truly shall first come, and restore all things. But I say unto you, That Elias is come already, and they knew him not, but have done unto him whatsoever they listed. Likewise shall also the Son of man suffer of them. Then the disciples understood that he spake unto them of John
the Baptist.
It seems you have a problem here. One or the other or both are mistaken or one does not know or one is lying. Here we have in John an obvious contradiction or worse. Here in John 1:19 look at what John says:

19And this is the record of John, when the Jews sent priests and Levites from Jerusalem to ask him, Who art thou?

20And he confessed, and denied not; but confessed, I am not the Christ.

21And they asked him, What then? Art thou Elias? And he saith, I am not. Art thou that prophet? And he answered, No.
So Jesus plainly said that John was Elias and John denied it. How could they have gotten it wrong?



Do you think you could recognize him?

 

[Alison]

I always thought I wouldn't... I imagined just some regular guy walking down the street and I wouldn't even know he's Jesus...

 

[Vic C.]

To answer this we must look at the verses pertaining to His Second Coming. Reading about who did and did not recognize Him first time around is mute. HE came into this world as a newborn and did not fully reveal His Ministry and true intent until He was about 30.

The world will know of His arrival.

Mat 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

 

[Soma-Sight]

I believe He is here.

 

[Vic C.]

I believe He is here.

In spirit, yes. Physically, I don't believe so Soma.

 

[Lyric's Dad]

What if the son of Man is already here and we cannot recognize him?

This is supported easily by:

Matthew 16:13-17 When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am? 14 And they said, Some [say that thou art] John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets. 15 He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? 16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. 17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed [it] unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.

Matthew 17:10-13 And his disciples asked him, saying, Why then say the scribes that Elias must first come? And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elias truly shall first come, and restore all things. But I say unto you, That Elias is come already, and they knew him not, but have done unto him whatsoever they listed. Likewise shall also the Son of man suffer of them. Then the disciples understood that he spake unto them of John the Baptist.

Do you think you could recognize him?

Well, I fully believe in the pre-trib rapture but even if that was not the case, I don't think we will miss the Glorious One coming on the clouds with an army behind Him. When He flashes from the east to the west, we will see Him.

We need to remember that Jesus is not coming this time as a defenseless Baby in a manger. He is coming as the Conquering King and there will be not one person that will be able to deny Him this time. Every single knee will hit the dirt on that day.

 

[Skipdawg]

I believe all his faithful will indeed know him without a doubt.

Jesus told the Apostles. The flock shall know their Shepherd.

 

[reznwerks]

why

There were at least 12 different people who did not recognize the risen Jesus of Nazareth, assuming he did rise.

"Then the eleven disciples went away into Galilee, into a mountain where Jesus had appointed them. And when they saw him, the worshiped him; but some doubted." (Matt. 28:16,17)

The "some" could have been between two and more. But they had lived with him three and a half years, but "some" when they saw him, doubted it was really he. Why?

"But their eyes were holden (restricted) that they should not recognize him." (Luke 24:16)

These were two disciples on the road to Emmaus, who no doubt knew him but did not recognize him at all. Why not?

"And when she had thus said, she turned herself back, and saw Jesus standing, and knew not that it was Jesus." (John 20:14)

This was Mary Magdalene, who was probably the closest disciple and the one who loved him most, and yet, she saw Jesus and did not know who he was. Why not?

"But when the morning was now come, Jesus stood on the shore; but the disciples knew not that it was Jesus." (John 21:4)

These were seven close disciples, namely, Simon Peter, Thomas, Nathaniel, James, John and two other unnamed. It was morning light. (John 21:2) Why?

When Jesus was allegedly ascended up into the heavens, two angels said to his watching disciples:

"..., ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? This same Jesus, who is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven." (Acts 1:11)

Question. Which "same Jesus" will come again? Was it the one who lived with his disciples for three and one half years, or was "this same Jesus", the one that those closest to him did not recognize?
Now, there is one final twist to Jesus' appearance after his alleged resurrection. John describes him one more time.

"His head and his hair were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were like a flame of fire; and his feet like fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice like the sound of many waters...; and out of his mouth went a sharp two-edged sword; and his countenance was as the sun shineth in its strength." (Rev. 1:14-16)

I want to propose a question. Is it possible that the reason so many close disciples did not immediately recognize him after his death, was because it was someone else pretending to be the resurrected Jesus? And then there is the description in Rev. 1, by John, which was probably the result of hallucinations.
I'll tell you one thing. If I met someone that I knew very well, after they died, I would know them. Unless that person was someone else.

 

[Vic C.]

http://exchristian.net/exchristian/2003 ... hy-not.php

Whether or not this is a valid question is moot, it's not yours and you don't even have the courtesy to reveal your sources.

Rule 11 - Respect copyrighted material:
When you copy/paste material please supply a link(s) to your source(s). It is a good idea to do that for two reasons.

A- it gives everyone the chance to check you sources...

B- it gives the credit to the originator of the information and avoids copyright infringement problems.

I know I have pointed this out to you many times already. Please state your sources or we will have to remove your posts whenever we find you doing this. You are so single-minded in your attempts to discredit Christianity, so will go to just about any length to do so.

If you despise Christians so much, why don't you go and find another sandbox to play in? :roll:

 

[Jake99]

Remember that he must be all that you say he is and yet he will not tell you who he is until his work is done. Which means that although he performs many miracles you will not see him for who he is until he says look what I have done for you while you were sleeping. So all he really has to do is put you on the path to his residue and you will see the overflow that is abundant. Jesus performed and revealed himself in the same way. He was simple to find but most called him crazy and then he was gone.

 

[kerravon]

What if the son of Man is already here and we cannot recognize him?

Do you think you could recognize him?

No, I don't think you could recognize him. However, this is what he would have done:

He would have noticed how wonderful Jesus's teachings were. Of extreme tolerance, loving thy enemy even to the point of death. And then he would have noticed that so many Christians were calling themselves Christians, but weren't remotely following Jesus's teachings. Not even slight tolerance, nevermind to death. Hell, not even tolerance - active aggression. And then he would have spent his whole life trying to find out why they weren't following Jesus's teachings. Which bit didn't they understand? Which bit wasn't clear. And after having figured out what was going wrong, he would have written them in an easier-to-understand form, that took into account the lessons of the last 2000 years.

 

[kerravon]

I can definitely say he IS NOT here now except in spirit. Who would he be because I know of know perfect man on this earth...?

We are all perfect. None of us are sinners. We are all natural, beautiful animals. Just like lions. Lions are not nasty. They are beautiful.

 

[kerravon]

I always thought I wouldn't... I imagined just some regular guy walking down the street and I wouldn't even know he's Jesus...

Yes. Remember that we are all created in God's image. God's DNA and yours are the same.

 

[kerravon]

We need to remember that Jesus is not coming this time as a defenseless Baby in a manger. He is coming as the Conquering King and there will be not one person that will be able to deny Him this time. Every single knee will hit the dirt on that day.

God does not want to see you on your knees. He wants you to be free.

 

[kerravon]

I believe all his faithful will indeed know him without a doubt.

The faithful do not have perfect logic skills.

 

[kerravon]

Remember that he must be all that you say he is and yet he will not tell you who he is until his work is done. Which means that although he performs many miracles you will not see him for who he is until he says look what I have done for you while you were sleeping. So all he really has to do is put you on the path to his residue and you will see the overflow that is abundant. Jesus performed and revealed himself in the same way. He was simple to find but most called him crazy and then he was gone.

You are a genius.

 

[Jake99]

kerravon,
You are very right in your last 2 posts. The world is being led by the most anti bible force you can imagine and they call themselves Christians. Not that anyone else got it right either but they are way off course, travelling in the opposite direction. What part of the recommendations of the bible don't they understand, all of it apparently. If you divide the land you will cause wars. If you work together you will live in peace and prosperity. The choice has always been the same and every leader has led you astray. The anti christ is who you have followed to this point in time. And this is the point in time where we further develope the good things and discontinue the bad ones. We have the tools already to get what is prayed for. The time to unite is now.