Daniel 9:27 and Daniel 12:11-12

[DRS81]

Dan 9:27 And he shall make a strong covenant with many for one week, and for half of the week he shall put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on the wing of abominations shall come one who makes desolate, until the decreed end is poured out on the desolator.”

Dan 12:11-12 “From the time that the regular sacrifice is abolished and the abomination of desolation is set up, there will be 1,290 days. 12“How blessed is he who keeps waiting and attains to the 1,335 days! 13“But as for you, go your way to the end; then you will enter into rest and rise again for your allotted portion at the end of the age.”

Any thoughts on (1) half of the week (2) 1,290 days (3) 1,335 days ? - DRS81

 

[reba]

How long was the earthly ministry of Jesus?

 

[Eugene]

Dan 9:27 And he shall make a strong covenant with many for one week, and for half of the week he shall put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on the wing of abominations shall come one who makes desolate, until the decreed end is poured out on the desolator.”

Dan 12:11-12 “From the time that the regular sacrifice is abolished and the abomination of desolation is set up, there will be 1,290 days. 12“How blessed is he who keeps waiting and attains to the 1,335 days! 13“But as for you, go your way to the end; then you will enter into rest and rise again for your allotted portion at the end of the age.”

Any thoughts on (1) half of the week (2) 1,290 days (3) 1,335 days ? - DRS81

Mat 24:22 Except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved."

Dan 12:12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.

Mat 24:13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

Rev 2:26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:

You may be having a problem with counting days considering Mat 24:22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

Now when you shorten days, there needs to be provision for shifting of our thinking to the beginning of the reign of the 1260 day reign of the antichrist. If this doesn't make sense, that’s fine.

 

[Gary]

How long was the earthly ministry of Jesus?

It's hard to say.

Luke 2
46 Now so it was that after three days they found Him in the temple, sitting in the midst of the teachers, both listening to them and asking them questions.
47 And all who heard Him were astonished at His understanding and answers.


He was 12.
.

 

[Sinthesis]

How long was the earthly ministry of Jesus?

 

[JLB]

Please show the scripture as to how long Jesus' ministry was.

 

[JLB]

How long was the earthly ministry of Jesus?

We see that the half of week has significance in other prophetic scriptures such as Daniel and Revelation.

He shall speak pompous words against the Most High, Shall persecute the saints of the Most High, And shall intend to change times and law. Then the saints shall be given into his hand For a time and times and half a time.
Daniel 7:25

Do we find such a ruler that persecuted the saints during Jesus earthly ministry?

But the woman was given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness to her place, where she is nourished for a time and timesand half a time, from the presence of the serpent. Revelation 12:14


Do we believe John is referring to the time of Jesus' earthly ministry.

Did we see this flight to the wilderness take place during Jesus' earthly ministry


JLB

 

[Sinthesis]

Please show the scripture as to how long Jesus' ministry was.

Dan 9:27
Dan 12:11-12

 

[Sinthesis]

We see that the half of week has significance in other prophetic scriptures such as Daniel and Revelation.

He shall speak pompous words against the Most High, Shall persecute the saints of the Most High, And shall intend to change times and law. Then the saints shall be given into his hand For a time and times and half a time.
Daniel 7:25

Do we find such a ruler that persecuted the saints during Jesus earthly ministry?

But the woman was given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness to her place, where she is nourished for a time and timesand half a time, from the presence of the serpent. Revelation 12:14

Do we believe John is referring to the time of Jesus' earthly ministry.

Did we see this flight to the wilderness take place during Jesus' earthly ministry

JLB

There are several half-week periods in biblical prophecy.

Dan 7:25 describes the last half-week of the antichrist's parody of the 70th week, which was fulfilled under Vespasian during the second half of the Roman-Jewish war, from the final siege of Jerusalem to Masada.

Rev 12:14 describes one of two options available to figurative Israel during the remaining half-week after Jesus' crucifixion in the midst of the 70th week. The other option is described in Rev 12:6

 

[for_his_glory]

TIME, TIMES AND A HALF

Dan 7:25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

Dan 12:7 And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.

Rev 12:14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.

Dan 9:24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

This is the prophecy of Messiah to come and His ministry which was was 3 1/2 years before He became the final offering for all mans sin.

 

[Dave Watchman]

Dan 9:27 And he shall make a strong covenant with many for one week, and for half of the week he shall put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on the wing of abominations shall come one who makes desolate, until the decreed end is poured out on the desolator.”

Dan 12:11-12 “From the time that the regular sacrifice is abolished and the abomination of desolation is set up, there will be 1,290 days. 12“How blessed is he who keeps waiting and attains to the 1,335 days! 13“But as for you, go your way to the end; then you will enter into rest and rise again for your allotted portion at the end of the age.”

Any thoughts on (1) half of the week (2) 1,290 days (3) 1,335 days ? - DRS81

What I think is different from the majority so take it with a grain of salt. 1260,1290 and 1335 are literal "earth" days. Some guys, even the SDA general conference are still trying to change them into years.

(1) half of the week was when Jesus put an end to sacrifice and offering. This was half of the 70th week, right in the middle of it. This was not the same event as " the regular sacrifice abolished" on day 1 of the 1290 days.

(2) 1,290 days talks about two bad events that take place at opposite ends of the time period. The abomination of desolation on the 1290th day is future, not the same one Jesus was talking about in Matt. 24. That one was spoken of in Daniel 11:31

(3) 1,335 days is whole duration of The Time of The End or The Great Tribulation. The other two numbers in Daniel 12 occur inside of the 1335 days. All three numbers share the same day one.

<---1260--->
<----1290---->
<-----1335----->

If you can figure out that the 70th week is finished, then you've got to find the real duration for The Tribulation.

Check this out.

12 Blessed is he who waits and arrives at the 1,335 days. 13 But go your way till the end. And you shall rest and shall stand in your allotted place at the end of the days.

And you shall rest (die and be buried)
and shall stand in your allotted place (be resurrected)
at the end of the days (the last day of the tribulation)

Daniel was described by Gabriel three times as a man greatly loved by God. It makes me wonder how some people will be raised up at the start of the tribulation, Daniel will have to wait for the end of it.

 

[JLB]

There are several half-week periods in biblical prophecy.

Dan 7:25 describes the last half-week of the antichrist's parody of the 70th week, which was fulfilled under Vespasian during the second half of the Roman-Jewish war, from the final siege of Jerusalem to Masada.

Rev 12:14 describes one of two options available to figurative Israel during the remaining half-week after Jesus' crucifixion in the midst of the 70th week. The other option is described in Rev 12:6

These are the same 3 1/2 years.

Did these events take place during the earthly ministry of Jesus ?

 

[JLB]

Dan 9:27
Dan 12:11-12

Those are scripture tags.

Please write out the scriptures whereby Jesus ministry was shown to be 3 1/2 years.

The scripture tags you presented are your opinion, and are not related to the time-span of Jesus' earthly ministry.

Now Jesus Himself began His ministry at about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, the son of Heli, Luke 3:23

This scripture shows at what age Jesus began His ministry. 30 years of age.

If you have a scripture that names the Messiah or Christ or Jesus specifically, and the time-span of earthly Ministry, please share it.


JLB

 

[DRS81]

(1) half of the week was when Jesus put an end to sacrifice and offering. This was half of the 70th week, right in the middle of it. This was not the same event as " the regular sacrifice abolished" on day 1 of the 1290 days.

Hi Dave, so you believe Dan 9:27 is past tense. Do you think a peace treaty will be signed by the Antichrist and Israel in the future, or do you think a peace treaty isn't biblical.

Check this out.

12 Blessed is he who waits and arrives at the 1,335 days. 13 But go your way till the end. And you shall rest and shall stand in your allotted place at the end of the days.

And you shall rest (die and be buried)
and shall stand in your allotted place (be resurrected)
at the end of the days (the last day of the tribulation)

Daniel was described by Gabriel three times as a man greatly loved by God. It makes me wonder how some people will be raised up at the start of the tribulation, Daniel will have to wait for the end of it.

Pretty cool huh. We can't even imagine what God hath planned for us my friend. 1 Cor 2:9.

 

[for_his_glory]

How long was the earthly ministry of Jesus?

This will help others learn that Jesus ministry was 3 1/2 years:

According to Luke 3:1, John the Baptist began his ministry in the 15th year of Tiberius Caesar’s reign. Tiberius was appointed as co-regent with Augustus in AD 11, and 15 years later would be AD 26. Jesus began His ministry shortly thereafter at approximately the age of thirty (Luke 3:23). This gives us a basis upon which we can approximate what year Jesusbegan His public ministry: around AD 26. As for the end of His ministry, we know that it culminated with His crucifixion, resurrection, and ascension.

According to John’s Gospel, Jesus attended at least three annual Feasts of Passover through the course of His ministry: one in John 2:13, another in 6:4, and then the Passover of Hiscrucifixion in 11:55–57. Just based on that information, Jesus’ ministry lasted 2 years, at the very least. Because of the amount of things that Jesus accomplished and the places He traveled during His ministry, many scholars believe there was another Passover, not mentioned in the Gospels, which fell between the Passovers of John 2 and John 6. This would lengthen Jesus’ ministry to at least 3 years.

We can add more time because of all that took place before the first Passover of Jesus’ ministry in John 2. By the time of that first Passover (in the spring of 27), Jesus had already traveled from the area of the Jordan to Cana to Capernaum to Jerusalem. He had been baptized by John (Matthew 3:13–17), been tempted in the wilderness (Matthew 4:1–2), began His preaching ministry (Matthew 4:17), called His first disciples (John 1:35–51), performed His first miracle (John 2:1–11), and made a trip to Capernaum with His family (John 2:12). All this would have taken several months, at least. Add to that the 40 days between Jesus’ resurrection and His ascension (Acts 1:3), and we have a total length of Jesus’ earthly ministry. From His baptism to His ascension, the late summer of 26 to the spring of 30, we have approximately 3½ years.

Read more: http://www.gotquestions.org/length-Jesus-ministry.html#ixzz34uBqMH9W

 

[reba]

Thanks for_his_glory for posting the above

Seems to me when we all go looking to set a timetable the earthly ministry of Jesus would some how matter.... In reading forums, being around the Bible, in many ways all my years very little about the words Jesus spoke or His life come into play when man want to set time frame...

 

[for_his_glory]

If you do a study of the kingdoms that were to rule according to dreams and visions throughout Daniel you will learn that Rome was to be the final kingdom before the end of this age. In Daniel 2 the statue with the head of gold was to be followed by the kingdom of silver and then bronze, then iron and then iron and clay. We know from Daniel 8 that the Gold represented Nebuchadnezzar, the silver was the Medes and the Persians, the bronze was the Greeks and history proves that the final kingdom was the Roman Empire.

Four nations:
Babylonian Empire:
(Iraq) The lion represents the winged lions that guarded the royal places of Babylon.

Medo – Persian Empire:
(Iran) The ribs of the bear are part of the consuming greed that devours the first empire.

Grecian Empire:
(Greece, Turkey, Syria, Egypt) Four wings of the leopard described the swiftness of this empire that ran from 334-331BC. It wrestled world dominion from Medo-Persia. After the death of

Alexander the Great the kingdom was divided into four minor kingdoms that continued as prominent factors in world politics until the Roman Empire gathered it back as one kingdom.

Roman Empire:
Iron represents the stronghold this nation had. Daniel chapter 2 mentions the iron element of this empire that it to will be divided and broken as God will set up a kingdom that will never be

destroyed.

Daniel 9:25-27 is past tense of the abomination of desolation at that time in history, but also that of future prophecy of the abomination of desolation spoken of by Jesus in Matthew 24:15.

In 70 A.D. Titus was given orders from Rome to take Israel into captivity and to destroy the city of Jerusalem. It was the Roman Empire that destroyed the city. So then the prince who will make the covenant (seven year peace treaty as some call it) is to be a prince of Rome, or to put it another way the son of perdition, John 17:12; 2Thessalonians 2:3, 4.

Even now this is all being put into place with the establishment of the New World Order that consist of one government, one economic system and one religion as when complete will usher in that of the first of the seven seals, Rev 6, including that of Rev 13:11-18 and ending with the seventh trumpet, Rev 11:15-19.

Mat 24:36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
Mat 24:37 But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

 

[Dave Watchman]

Hi Dave, so you believe Dan 9:27 is past tense. Do you think a peace treaty will be signed by the Antichrist and Israel in the future, or do you think a peace treaty isn't biblical.

Hi David

And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease

The He is Jesus.

for this he did once, when he offered up himself.

I do not believe that a seven year tribulation begins with the Antichrist making a peace treaty with Israel, rebuilding a temple, starting animal sacrifices all over again and then breaking the deal half way through the seven years.

For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins.

I'm sorry to say this because many good Christians think this will happen. While people are watching for temples to be built or specific wars in the middle east all that has to happen is Rev. 7:

“Do not harm the earth, the sea, or the trees till we have sealed the servants of our God on their foreheads.”

 

[DRS81]

I do not believe that a seven year tribulation begins with the Antichrist making a peace treaty with Israel, rebuilding a temple, starting animal sacrifices all over again and then breaking the deal half way through the seven years.

Hi DW, thank you for response.
I am confused of what you're saying here though.
You're (surprised) he's breaking the peace?? 1 Thess 5:3.
This is the Antichrist we are talking about, the father of lies John 8:44.

 

[reba]

How does the Scripture define antichrist.
Same question said a bit differently :
Where is antichrist described in the Bible?
What is the Biblical description of antichrist. ?