[_ Old Earth _] Death before sin?

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What happened to this debate? I'm a busy girl, but have been checking in from time to time to see if there is actually anything to reply to in this thread, but all I have seen is childish bickering and useless accusations. Good grief! Can we grow up and talk about the issue at hand, or do we prefer hiding behind name calling and inane babble instead of dealing with the heart of the matter. This drives me crazy!
 
Grace Alone said:
What happened to this debate? I'm a busy girl, but have been checking in from time to time to see if there is actually anything to reply to in this thread, but all I have seen is childish bickering and useless accusations. Good grief! Can we grow up and talk about the issue at hand, or do we prefer hiding behind name calling and inane babble instead of dealing with the heart of the matter. This drives me crazy!
I've been kind of busy myself lately...Grace, for an OEC you're one of the most pleasant to debate with. I don't remeber where we were at so I'll try and figure it out and post a question for you or something
 
mhess13 said:
sic 'em BLUE!
I commend you for your patience Blue. These forums tire me out.
People in creation/evolution forums (not just here but on other forum sites as well) are soooooooo nasty, hateful and mean that it just isn't even enjoyable posting sometimes...

:B-fly: mhess,you and destiny are pretty good yourselves.
Don't give up! I just remember the days when I was lost and
I have compassion on them.
It may not look like alot of compasion at times.
I've been to some forums that were totally run by atheists of
various beliefs,and some them are real nasty,and they do
say some very mean spirited things. Some are nice though.
When I was lost,I couldn't see the truth either,and I was a
a worldly mess to put it mildly.
I went to one forum thinking there was a fair debate going on
between the christians and the atheists and what I walked into
was nothing less than a pack of wolves. I cannot believe the
rage and that hate at some of these places. It was a shock,but
I managed to stay there awhile. I'm enjoying that book alot that
you told me about called "The Long War against God" by Henry Morris.
It's a very good book.
Thank you for blessing me with your words of encouragement. It's like
being blessed by Jesus himself. You and destiny have both blessed me
so much,and all the other sisters and brothers here too.
I hope I can be a blessing to all of you in return.
Hang in there,and don't give up,o.k?
P.S. John The Baptist had the right idea in my opinion.
 
mhess13 said:
Grace Alone said:
What happened to this debate? I'm a busy girl, but have been checking in from time to time to see if there is actually anything to reply to in this thread, but all I have seen is childish bickering and useless accusations. Good grief! Can we grow up and talk about the issue at hand, or do we prefer hiding behind name calling and inane babble instead of dealing with the heart of the matter. This drives me crazy!
I've been kind of busy myself lately...
No worries. I don't mind if a thread dies because there isn't enough interest in the topic, or if the participants just don't have the time to put into it, but it really irks me when a thread becomes derailed as this one has. If people can't debate the issue and keep the personal quips to themselves, then let the thread die.

mhess13 said:
Grace, for an OEC you're one of the most pleasant to debate with.
Heehee. Thanks....I think. Why on earth would I not be pleasant to debate with just because I believe the earth is more than 6,000 years old? *scratches head* I'm not picking on you, but I don't understand why so many young earthers have the impression that OEC's and TE's are somehow unkind, or even hateful. I honestly see the judgement and mean spiritedness coming from both sides - or, I should say all sides, as there are more than two major viewpoints on creation - and I've run into quite a few YEC's, who are less than pleasant to talk with. Sorry for the minor rant, but sometimes I feel so labeled by YEC's, before they even know what I believe or hear what I have to say. *sigh* It can be frustrating. I say all this only to point out that I think we all need to be a little more gracious to one another. I'm not directing that at you by any means, MHess, as I think - from the little I know of you - you try to deal fairly with people, but I think we are all guilty of it from time to time. It's disheartening when fellow Christians treat each other like enemies simply because they don't see eye to eye on issues such as this. (I know there are atheistic evolutionists involved too, and that is not to say that we should treat them any less charitably). Okay, I think I'm done - hope I don't come across to anyone as preachy - that's not my intention.

mhess13 said:
I don't remeber where we were at so I'll try and figure it out and post a question for you or something
Like I said, if it's a topic of interest, and you have questions, or points you'd like to make, that's great, and I will get on here when I am able, but don't feel like you have to post, just for the sake of doing so, if you don't have the time or interest.
 
blueeyeliner said:
Your spelling is extremely bad,just as your manners are.

Baaaaaaaaahahahahha...blue, your reading comprehension is at an all time low. That one sentence "you shore do like to make them assumptions", was the only sentence with any mistakes.

Of course I tolerate others. I may not agree with their lifestyle,but
I tolerate them. I'm here on a christian forum and I am not seeking
out others to judge them or pick on them. I am very tolerant,unlike
yourself.

Ah...but you said this "one world" religion would be about tolerating other people ideas of God. And you don't agree with that.

You want a pat on the back for your immoral life-style and you blame me because I won't give it to you.

Did I ask you for one?? honestly...

You believe that there is no God,so you'd better be right,huh?
Especially after all the nasty things you wrote about him.
You have no evidence and no support,yet you keep on with your
silly babel.

My silly babel eh? What exactly is babel?

I believe in exactly one less god than you do, so you better be sure YOU'RE right as well.
 
blueeyeliner said:
You call reading alot of science fiction books and magazines
reality? No wonder you are in the state of confusion that you are in!
You haven't got a clue to reality,and if you ever had,you'd of never
left it. Get out of Babylon before your babel causes you to choke on
your words some more.


Really...what is babel?
 
mhess13 said:
sic 'em BLUE!
I commend you for your patience Blue. These forums tire me out.
People in creation/evolution forums (not just here but on other forum sites as well) are soooooooo nasty, hateful and mean that it just isn't even enjoyable posting sometimes...


LOL....
 
The Tuatha'an/I believe in exactly one less god than you do, so you better be sure YOU'RE right as well.

:D The beautiful thing is that not only am I sure,I know.
I know for a fact that God is alive and very well.
You cannot have that security in what you believe in.
I know God exists,so I also know that your view must be wrong.
God can and does let people know he's alive.
I am not happy that my enemies will be punished. I'd rather
they'd also be saved,but I cannot make that choice for them.
 
blueeyeliner said:
The beautiful thing is that not only am I sure,I know.

You think you know, but Cthulu is the real truth. And you're going to hell for it.

I know for a fact that God is alive and very well.
You cannot have that security in what you believe in.

Who says? You? Well, I say that I can, so there!

I know God exists,so I also know that your view must be wrong.


Good, concrete logic....LOL
 
The Tuatha'an said:
mhess13 said:
sic 'em BLUE!
I commend you for your patience Blue. These forums tire me out.
People in creation/evolution forums (not just here but on other forum sites as well) are soooooooo nasty, hateful and mean that it just isn't even enjoyable posting sometimes...


LOL....

:Fade-color We have been told to be nice to you,so you can at least
make it easier for us to do that. mhess is right. It does take patience
to debate with you. Both sides need to be willing to at least show some
respect.
 
The Tuatha'an said:
blueeyeliner said:
The beautiful thing is that not only am I sure,I know.

You think you know, but Cthulu is the real truth. And you're going to hell for it.

I know for a fact that God is alive and very well.
You cannot have that security in what you believe in.

Who says? You? Well, I say that I can, so there!

[quote:26d20]I know God exists,so I also know that your view must be wrong.


Good, concrete logic....LOL[/quote:26d20]

:B-fly: Well then,all I can tell you is,have a very happy journey!
 
blueeyeliner said:
Well then,all I can tell you is,have a very happy journey!

I definitely will, too bad you don't accept Cthulu, cuz you'd be enjoying the journey too.
 
blueeyeliner said:
We have been told to be nice to you,so you can at least
make it easier for us to do that. mhess is right. It does take patience
to debate with you. Both sides need to be willing to at least show some
respect.

Honestly blue, I thoroughly enjoy these discussions. No matter how mean and hateful you guys are.
 
Blue won't accept Cthulu because she hasn't been looking properly. She's trying to be Godly (which makes her completely immoral) instead of living how Cthulu would want. If she doesn't find Cthulu before she dies, she will pay the full price by burning in hell for eternity. I feel very, very bad for her.
 
[The Tuatha'an"]/[blueeyeliner"]Well then,all I can tell you is,have a very happy journey!

I definitely will, too bad you don't accept Cthulu, cuz you'd be enjoying the journey too.

:wink: I'm not into false religion. I hope you will seek God and find
him so you'll share life forever with me.
 
blueeyeliner said:
I'm not into false religion.

Obviously you are, considering you don't accept Cthulu. And you're gonna die for it.

I hope you will seek God and find
him so you'll share life forever with me.


I would rather spend eternity in hell.
 
[The Tuatha'an"]/[blueeyeliner"]We have been told to be nice to you,so you can at least
make it easier for us to do that. mhess is right. It does take patience
to debate with you. Both sides need to be willing to at least show some
respect.

Honestly blue, I thoroughly enjoy these discussions. No matter how mean and hateful you guys are.

:Fade-color Honestly,I don't believe anyone has been so mean to you.
We can enjoy the discussions without the personal attacks.
I am not taking it seriously,but for the sake of others who may be more
sensitive,we really should try to tone it down some.
Besides,I cannot hate you or anyone.
 
[The Tuatha'an"]/[blueeyeliner"] I'm not into false religion

Obviously you are, considering you don't accept Cthulu. And you're gonna die for it.

I hope you will seek God and find
him so you'll share life forever with me.


I would rather spend eternity in hell.

:B-fly: Thats part of the beauty of the Holy Father. He won't
infringe on your free will.If you'd rather go to The lake of Fire,
you most likely will.
 
The Tuatha'an:
You have no evidence and no support,yet you keep on with your
silly babel.

My silly babel eh? What exactly is babel?

I believe in exactly one less god than you do, so you better be sure YOU'RE right as well.


8-) Babel means words of confusion. Rambling on about things that
make no sense.
Of course Babel in the Bible was a place called Babylon. You know?
That place Saddam partially rebuilt.
 
blueeyeliner said:
8-) Babel means words of confusion. Rambling on about things that make no sense.

That's babble.

Babel is a confusion of voices, or noises.
 
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