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Do you think the Church will experience this?
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I even went to the site attempting to see a better or clearer version of the chart and it is near impossible to read. From the few things I could see I believe it is basically an abrieviated illustration of a dispensations chart, though I didn't agree with their eschatology of the seven seals to begin with if they're saying all seven occur during the first three and one-half years.
I didn't see the inclusion of Mat 24:22 in their figuring: And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened. Little things like that make me read no further, and there are a multitude of such charts available with different ministries.
Looking up their site they want fifteen dollars to see their doctrinal statement; yeah, I need to listen to them???
http://www.disciplemakerministries.org/ Then select Doctrinal Statement
I didn't see the inclusion of Mat 24:22 in their figuring: And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened. Little things like that make me read no further, and there are a multitude of such charts available with different ministries.
Looking up their site they want fifteen dollars to see their doctrinal statement; yeah, I need to listen to them???
http://www.disciplemakerministries.org/ Then select Doctrinal Statement
Claudya
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Their statement of faith is readable on the website as a 156 pages long pdf file. I bet the 15 dollars would be for getting a printed copy mailed to your real adress.
But would you seriously care to read 156 pages?
Beautiful !!!
Gary
Member
So many of us have no understanding of why we believe what we do... Way back i remember seeing a big chart.... Childhood can make things seem bigger then they were... this chart covered a couple easels on the church platform... That guy thought he had the answers... but the world didn't cooperate with his chart... The world as we knew it did not end 7 years after Israel became a state.. But then this is a different chart...
Some of the print is pretty small.I have read that 1/3 of our world's population will die in the first 31/2 years of the tribulation.
Sinthesis
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understatement of the decade.
Gary
Member
Or we can just simply read what Jesus said about this truly simple doctrine.
24 "But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; 25 the stars of heaven will fall, and the powers in the heavens will be shaken. 26 Then they will see the Son of Man coming in the clouds with great power and glory. 27 And then He will send His angels, and gather together His elect from the four winds, from the farthest part of earth to the farthest part of heaven. Matthew 13:24-27
In one breath Jesus stated that He will come after the tribulation of those days, and Gather all His people in heaven and on earth together.
That is the Resurrection and Rapture that occurs at the same time with the dead in Christ being caught up together WITH THEM!
Extremely simple... Until people figured out they could make more more selling the idea of a magic carpet ride...
JLB
oh pretty,none of you will get that. I would have to do that in person for you to get that fully.
in Afghanistan one of the mortarmen saw an incoming round, and pointed at it and it looked like a falling star and said oh pretty, and his SSgt said that's &**& incoming you idiot!
Gary
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Yeah, the sound a round makes as it's passing right next to your head sounds kinda neat too.
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Deborah13
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If I remember correctly from the historical writings of Josephus that's approx. how many Jews were killed in 70AD when the Romans surround and attack Jerusalem and other Jewish communities. This would have been when the second temple and Jerusalem were destroyed.
Do I think this is going to happen again? I don't know for sure but I highly doubt it.
the end days of earth are not a 'pretty picture' for those doomed, except those doomed 'rejoice in evil' not realizing their own end >>
as in the days of noah (they were partying, playing, marrying and giving in marriage and shopping right up until the last day of their life. then it was too late to be saved..... so it is or will be again....
as in the days of adolph h. in germany --- all but one of the main churches said heil! and claimed he was 'a man of god' to help germany.
so in these last days, all but the remnant give allegiance to the same system that is bent on control and destruction of life - that will most likely soon introduce 'for everyone's safety' / identification mechanism that is required for any transaction of buying, selling, or owning anything or dwelling anywhere on earth.
it is written so clearly >>
Revelation 9:20King James Version (KJV)
20 And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk: ....
Revelation 9:20Expanded Bible (EXB)
20 The ·other [rest of the] people who were not killed by these ·terrible disasters [plagues] still did not ·change their hearts and turn away from what they had made with their own hands [L repent from the works of their hands]. They did not stop worshiping demons and idols made of gold, silver, bronze, stone, and wood—things that cannot see or hear or walk [Ps. 115:4–7; 135:17; Jer. 10:1–16].
as in the days of noah (they were partying, playing, marrying and giving in marriage and shopping right up until the last day of their life. then it was too late to be saved..... so it is or will be again....
as in the days of adolph h. in germany --- all but one of the main churches said heil! and claimed he was 'a man of god' to help germany.
so in these last days, all but the remnant give allegiance to the same system that is bent on control and destruction of life - that will most likely soon introduce 'for everyone's safety' / identification mechanism that is required for any transaction of buying, selling, or owning anything or dwelling anywhere on earth.
it is written so clearly >>
Revelation 9:20King James Version (KJV)
20 And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk: ....
Revelation 9:20Expanded Bible (EXB)
20 The ·other [rest of the] people who were not killed by these ·terrible disasters [plagues] still did not ·change their hearts and turn away from what they had made with their own hands [L repent from the works of their hands]. They did not stop worshiping demons and idols made of gold, silver, bronze, stone, and wood—things that cannot see or hear or walk [Ps. 115:4–7; 135:17; Jer. 10:1–16].
I have heard that sound.