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There's another place in the gospel accounts (hint) where the LORD flat out tells His Apostles that they will sit upon thrones and judge the twelve tribes of Israel..
It's absolutely amazing where we find this...
1) what was the heavenlies to the jews? by this i mean what is exactly do they consider things that represent god in imagery and yes there is that in the bible in the ot.This discussion has started like the proverbial 1000 small cuts. Bleed your enemy to death by multiple small insignificant attacks. Try to ask one question at a time in order to follow along one attack at a time; otherwise you are using smoke and mirrors to create a diversion for ignorance.
1) what was the heavenlies to the jews? by this i mean what is exactly do they consider things that represent god in imagery and yes there is that in the bible in the ot.
they couldnt make certain things then but theres thing in the temple that god said make and they represent certain facets of him.
its revelant, why would god have the nation of isreal line tribes and place banners that are the very image of the heads of the for living creatures around the tabernacle? ie the bull, the man, the eagle and lion? and put the ark in the middle of that? and in ezekiel and revalation we say that again. what is being reflected by that?The question need to directly relate to Israel (as a nation) and the church of God (as Christians). We are told that all things were written before to the nation as a model (or allegory) for the Kingdom of God. The Jews and Christians received the same message. To the Jews it was in symbols, and to Christians it was revealed. It is the same message to the same people. There is now neither Jew nor Greek (Galatians 3:28; Colossians 3:11). Is that statement correct? Was Paul telling us the truth?
This discussion has started like the proverbial 1000 small cuts. Bleed your enemy to death by multiple small insignificant attacks. Try to ask one question at a time in order to follow along one attack at a time; otherwise you are using smoke and mirrors to create a diversion for ignorance.