Egypt then. World now. (so much in the end to be set free from).(sheep without shepherd)

[His_nee (Jeff)]

Where can people / sheep/ lambs / worldly or religious, can't read or college grads,
turn to for Instruction in Godliness, Holiness, Right Living and Salvation?

Growth of Faith Through the Desert do everyone still have to go through the desert?
"Why did God brought His people through the long detour route of the wilderness? God Himself tells us here why He did what He did. God said, “Lest the people change their minds when they see war and they return to Egypt.” The Philistines were a belligerent people, highly trained in warfare, not to mention their great stature. It wasn’t until 500 years later that the children of Israel were ready to fight with them with King David as their leader. But at this time they were in no condition to deal with conflict with the Philistines. (We know that Philistines represents one of the strongest aspect of the flesh that needs to be dealt with in our progressive salvation.) They were not ready for battle. They needed to grow up in the desert. It would have been bad for them to have gone back to Egypt. It was clear from the history of the children of Israel in the wilderness that it was an ever present temptation for them to want to go back to Egypt whenever they encountered difficulties. They attempted several times to do just that. That would have been a mockery against God’s Name as their Deliverer. The enemy would say, “He brought them out, but He couldn’t handle them, so now they’ve come back.”

http://www.ccbiblestudy.org/WeeklyWord/Growth_in_Faith_Through_the_Desert.html

 

[Eugene]

Where can people / sheep/ lambs / worldly or religious, can't read or college grads,
turn to for Instruction in Godliness, Holiness, Right Living and Salvation?

Growth of Faith Through the Desert do everyone still have to go through the desert?
"Why did God brought His people through the long detour route of the wilderness? God Himself tells us here why He did what He did. God said, “Lest the people change their minds when they see war and they return to Egypt.” The Philistines were a belligerent people, highly trained in warfare, not to mention their great stature. It wasn’t until 500 years later that the children of Israel were ready to fight with them with King David as their leader. But at this time they were in no condition to deal with conflict with the Philistines. (We know that Philistines represents one of the strongest aspect of the flesh that needs to be dealt with in our progressive salvation.) They were not ready for battle. They needed to grow up in the desert. It would have been bad for them to have gone back to Egypt. It was clear from the history of the children of Israel in the wilderness that it was an ever present temptation for them to want to go back to Egypt whenever they encountered difficulties. They attempted several times to do just that. That would have been a mockery against God’s Name as their Deliverer. The enemy would say, “He brought them out, but He couldn’t handle them, so now they’ve come back.”

http://www.ccbiblestudy.org/WeeklyWord/Growth_in_Faith_Through_the_Desert.html

Overcomer Wu makes this statement; “I have more to work on in your life before you are ready to enter Canaan.” May I ask just what you think Kenaan represents as an example or type in our experience? Why didn’t this work for Aaron and Moses?

He also refers to “Progressive salvation.” Which form of yeshuwah?

Next I read “Growth in faith through the desert.” Does emuwn come as the result of trials, or reward?

 

[His_nee (Jeff)]

In the next post, I copied a couple paragraphs from the document that is pretty much simple and self-explanatory in the context of Yhwh's Will for our lives and Scripture. So little good teaching on the Christian Walk in Christ Jesus is available in most groups, some of this or even a lot of it may look 'new' but it is simply what comes after the milk of the word when believers are able to get past the milk.

I didn't find yeshuwah in the document, and online it wasn't clear how it relates to the op.
I didn't find emuwn in the document.
Here's the result of strong's definition/search for emuwn:
http://www.bibletools.org/index.cfm/fuseaction/Lexicon.show/ID/H530/emuwn.htm


Usage:

This word is used 49 times:


Exodus 17:12: "and the other on the other side; and his hands were steady until the going down"
Deuteronomy 32:4: "his ways are judgment: a God of truth and without iniquity, just and right"
1 Samuel 26:23: "to every man his righteousness and his faithfulness: for the LORD delivered thee into my hand"
2 Kings 12:15: "on workmen: for they dealt faithfully."
2 Kings 22:7: "because they dealt faithfully."
1 Chronicles 9:22: "whom David and Samuel the seer did ordain in their set office."
1 Chronicles 9:26: "the four chief porters, were in their set office, and were over the chambers and treasuries"
1 Chronicles 9:31: "was the firstborn of Shallum the Korahite, had the set office over the things that were made in the pans."
2 Chronicles 19:9: "Thus shall ye do in the fear of the LORD, faithfully, and with a perfect heart."
2 Chronicles 31:12: "the offerings and the tithes and the dedicated things faithfully: over which Cononiah the Levite was ruler,"
2 Chronicles 31:15: "Amariah, and Shecaniah, in the cities of the priests, in their set office, to give to their brethren by courses,"
2 Chronicles 31:18: "through all the congregation: for in their set office they sanctified themselves in holiness:"
2 Chronicles 34:12: "And the men did the work faithfully: and the overseers of them were Jahath and Obadiah,"
Psalms 33:4: "is right; and all his works are done in truth."
Psalms 36:5: "Thy mercy, O LORD, is in the heavens; and thy faithfulness reacheth unto the clouds."
Psalms 37:3: "good; so shalt thou dwell in the land, and verily thou shalt be fed."
Psalms 40:10: "within my heart; I have declared thy faithfulness and thy salvation: I have not concealed thy lovingkindness"
Psalms 88:11: "Shall thy lovingkindness be declared in the grave? or thy faithfulness in destruction?"
Psalms 89:1: "forever: with my mouth will I make known thy faithfulness to all generations."
Psalms 89:2: "Mercy shall be built up forever: thy faithfulness shalt thou establish in the very heavens."
Psalms 89:5: "shall praise thy wonders, O LORD: thy faithfulness also in the congregation of the saints."
Psalms 89:8: "is a strong LORD like unto thee? or to thy faithfulness round about"
Psalms 89:24: " But my faithfulness and my mercy shall be with him: and in my name shall his horn be exalted."
Psalms 89:33: "utterly take from him, nor suffer my faithfulness to fail. suffer my faithfulness to fail."
Psalms 89:49: "lovingkindnesses, which thou swarest unto David in thy truth?"
Psalms 92:2: "To show forth thy lovingkindness in the morning, and thy faithfulness every night,"
Psalms 96:13: "the world with righteousness, and the people with his truth."
Psalms 98:3: "He hath remembered his mercy and his truth toward the house of Israel: all the ends of the earth"
Psalms 100:5: "is good; his mercy is everlasting; and his truth endureth to all generations."
Psalms 119:30: "I have chosen the way of truth: thy judgments have I laid"
Psalms 119:75: "that thy judgments are right, and that thou in faithfulness hast afflicted"
Psalms 119:86: "All thy commandments are faithful: they persecute me wrongfully; help"
Psalms 119:90: " Thy faithfulness is unto all generations: thou hast established the earth, and it abideth."
Psalms 119:138: "that thou hast commanded are righteous and very faithful."
Psalms 143:1: "give ear to my supplications: in thy faithfulness answer me, and in thy righteousness."
Proverbs 12:17: "He that speaketh truth showeth forth righteousness: but a false witness deceit."
Proverbs 12:22: "are abomination to the LORD: but they that deal truly are his delight."
Proverbs 28:20: " A faithful man shall abound with blessings: but he that maketh haste to be rich shall not be innocent."
Isaiah 11:5: "shall be the girdle of his loins, and faithfulness the girdle of his reins."
Isaiah 25:1: "wonderful things; thy counsels of old are faithfulness and truth."
Isaiah 33:6: "And wisdom and knowledge shall be the stability of thy times, and strength of salvation: the fear"
Isaiah 59:4: "for justice, nor any pleadeth for truth: they trust in vanity, and speak"
Jeremiah 5:1: "any that executeth judgment, that seeketh the truth; and I will pardon"
Jeremiah 5:3: "O LORD, are not thine eyes upon the truth? thou hast stricken them, but they have not grieved; thou hast consumed"
Jeremiah 7:28: "nor receiveth correction: truth is perished, and is cut off from their mouth."
Jeremiah 9:3: "for lies: but they are not valiant for the truth upon the earth; for they proceed from evil"
Lamentations 3:23: "They are new every morning: great is thy faithfulness."
Hosea 2:20: "I will even betroth thee unto me in faithfulness: and thou shalt know the LORD."
Habakkuk 2:4: "is not upright in him: but the just shall live by his faith."

 

[His_nee (Jeff)]

(interjection; possibly related, came up in search a few minutes ago for some of the above words seeking the meaning)
Kenneth Wuest
(A Translator of the NASB)
on Heb 6:4

Heb 6:4 It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared in the Holy Spirit, (NIV)

Heb 6:4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, (AV)

"Partakers of the Holy Ghost"

We must be careful to note that the Greek word translated "partakers" does not mean "possessors," in the sense that these Hebrews possessed the Holy Spirit as an indwelling Person who had come to take up His permanent abode in their hearts. The word is a compound of the Greek verb "to have or hold", and a preposition meaning "with" thus "to hold with." It is used in Luke 5:7 where it is translated "partners," signifying one who co-operates with another in a common task or undertaking. It is used in Hebrews 1:9 where the angels are "fellows" of our Lord, partners or associates with Him in the work of salvation. It is used in Hebrews 3:1 where the recipients of this letter are called participators in the heavenly calling. That is, they participated together in the heavenly calling. These Hebrews had left the earthly calling of the nation Israel, and had identified themselves with the Church which has a heavenly calling. It is used in Hebrews 3:14, where it speaks of those who participate together in the Lord Jesus.

The word (metochos) was so used in secular Greek. Moulton and Milligan give examples of its usage in the following phrases: "We, Dionysius son of Socrates and the associate collectors;" Pikos son of Pamonthes and his colleagues," "the Joint-owner of a holding," "I am unable to take part in the cultivation," "Some do so because they are partners in their misdeeds." Thus the word signifies one who participates with another in a common activity or possession. It is so used here. These Hebrews became participators in the Holy Spirit insofar as an unsaved person can do so, namely, in the sense that they willingly co-operated with Him in receiving His pre-salvation ministry, that of leading them on step by step toward the act of faith. He had led them into the act of repentance. The next step would be that of faith. Here they were in danger of turning their backs upon the Spirit and returning to the sacrifices. Peter in his first epistle (1:2) in the words, "through sanctification of the Spirit unto obedience," speaks of this work of the Holy Spirit on the unsaved, setting them apart from unbelief to faith. This word in its context does not at all imply that these Hebrews had been born of the Spirit, sealed with the Spirit, indwelt by the Spirit, anointed with the Spirit, baptized by the Spirit into the Body of Christ, or filled with the Spirit. This work of the Holy Spirit in leading them on towards faith was a once-for-all work, so thoroughy done that it needed never to be repeated. However, there was nothing permanent of itself in this work, for the work was only a means to an end. This is shown by the aorist participle used, referring to the mere fact, not a perfect, speaking of a finished act having present results. The fact that the writer did not use the perfect tense here, which is a specialized tense, but rather the aorist, which is the maid of all work, points to the incompleteness of the work of the Spirit in the case of these Hebrews. So far as the work had been done, it was perfect, thorough. But it would not be complete until the Hebrews accepted the proffered faith from the Spirit. The incompleteness of the work would be due, therefore, not to the Spirit, but to their willingness to go on as a partner or cooperator with the Spirit.

 

[His_nee (Jeff)]

excerpts from document in the op:

When we believed and received the Lord as our Savior, Lord, and Life, and we begin on our Christian's pilgrim's path in our walk with Him, things may get very difficult, but we should never turn back. Don’t think it was better before you met Christ. Don’t think that the desert experiences are so terrible that it would be better to be how you were before you met Christ. That is a lie from the enemy! It was certainly not better to be under the slavery of Pharoah! God is able to bring us out of the bondage of sin, the world, and Satan by His victorious leadership into maturity in Christ and into His glorious Kingdom. When God choose to take us through a long, difficult, painful, hot desert detours, there are good reasons under His sovereign design. Before we get into the various divine purposes why He brought us through the desert route, let us quickly make one thing clear. There are all kinds of experiences we could call “a desert.” A “desert” experience could be comprised of physical ailments and weaknesses; or it could be an environmental catastrophe, an occupational setback, persecutions from various sources both internal and external, or in the deeper sense, it could even be a period of outward dryness in our spiritual experience that is devoid of any outward emotional excitement or bouyant feelings of elation. God has things for us to learn from these desert detours. They are designed for our discipline and training. We will focus here on three things God wants us to learn from desert experiences, although there are a lot more.

First of all, God wants us to learn to trust Him. We humans sometimes think that the fastest way is the best way. It is not always so. It is as if God is saying, “Trust Me. The shortest way isn’t the best way. I know better. Trust Me. I have more to work on in your life before you are ready to enter Canaan.” Then God leads us to the long, dry, arid desert land. The question for us is, do we trust God’s wisdom and God's way?




Deuteronomy 8:2-3 revealed to us some of the great purposes behind His leading us through the desert path, “... the Lord your God led you all the way these forty years in the wilderness, ... He humbled you, allowed you to hunger, and fed you with manna which you did not know nor did your fathers know, that He might make you know that man shall not live by bread alone; but man lives by every word that proceeds from the mouth of the Lord.” Our desert experiences convey to us our most desperate need: to trust and depend on God. Our desert experiences speaks an amplified message to us: that not only can I do nothing apart from Him, but that I am nothing, God is my all. Being thus humbled by the desert experiences, I can place my trust in nothing and no one else but God Himself.