Bible Study Experience Is Not Revelation

[Soul man]

The truth of divine revelation is taught as the answer to every problem in each Epistle. Each epistle is written to churches which were blood-washed and Spirit-filled, so when Paul prays for such churches as the Ephesians church to have a revelation in the knowledge of Christ, he is praying for this to take place in a church which is blood washed and Spirit filled and coming behind in no spiritual gift.
Thus it is obvious that if anyone wanted to make a point of it, he could have disagreed with Paul.
Many didn't because to them it seemed Paul was bringing a new doctrine.
But instead of being new, it was really the fullness of all that God was and is trying to do, wrapped up in a term.

Man, within himself, cannot know God. Man, through the blessings of God, cannot know him. Man, through the temporal life, cannot know God. Neither does man, through the free gifts of healing, salvation and the baptism in the Holy Spirit, come to know God.
For these reasons, the Apostle brings the message of Revelation to already-established churches.
This is not a controversial truth to most Bible scholars. The fact we need a revelation of Jesus Christ is agreed upon by all those who are willing to take the word, pure and undefiled, as it is written.
The controversy starts over how to receive this revelation. As usual in Gods work, the doctrine never divides, it is always the method. If you just believed the doctrine and never put a method with it you would be all right.
Most people are pleased when I preach the crucified life. But when I state a method by which to live it, they get angry. They don't want to live a truth, they just want to talk about it.
The eternal securitist, for instance, is quick to say that he has been baptized in the Holy Spirit, but when you turn to the Scriptures and pick out occasions when people were baptized in the Holy Spirit and use that for a pattern for receiving the Holy Spirit, he gets upset, he doesn't want methods.
We do not want practicality, we do not want to get down to business to see whether or not we measure up to the pattern. We prefer to say "I have it" without ever having to produce it, live it or make it practical.
It is amazing how much Christianity is based purely on talk and receiving of blessings. The two go hand in hand. We have received blessings and we talk about doctrines, but we cannot do both without living the life.
The revelation of Jesus Christ is the same way, Paul's epistles are full of the method of receiving the revelation of Jesus Christ.
Not just a revelation, but the revelation of Jesus Christ, Gal. 1:11-12.
Everybody has had a revelation, Jim Jones had a revelation, David Karesh had a revelation, but the method I speak of is the revelation of Jesus Christ, the indwelling life of Jesus Christ.
I am sure Manson himself had some kind of Revelation.
Every believer must have "the revelation of Jesus Christ" to really fully understand what God is doing right now, John 14:20.

 

[for_his_glory]

:amen

People say they know Christ, but what they know are His attributes seen within their own life as they read the Bible. I speak for what I know as I was the same. I thought I knew Christ by reading His word and trying to live my life according to it, but I never knew the person of Christ in all His glory and power. I went through a period many years ago where I had so much doubt, even though I believed in Him and it got to the point where I asked Jesus to truly reveal himself to me in a way I never knew Him before. Reveal is the same as revelation as I soon found out.

I was working as an usher with a ministry that came to town and during the service we had communion. I have shared this before, but feel the need to share it again. When I take communion I have a habit of breaking the bread in half as that represents to me the body of Christ that was broken for me, even though none of His bones were broken and of course the wine representing the blood He shed for me. I took it to a deeper level of revelation as I asked Jesus to reveal himself to me during communion and did He ever.

When I broke the bread in half I immediately was in the Spirit and I could physically hear His skin, muscles and ligaments literally tearing apart with every strike of the whip He was beaten with. When I took the wine and drank it (grape juice) I could not recognize the body of Christ as all I could see was His blood flowing from the top of His head, done the cross covering my feet as I stood there looking in amazement. It was so graphic I could have thrown up, but all I could do was cry. Others around me ask why I was crying and all I could tell them was I never knew such great love before. The whole thing was like watching a movie, but was real in my own life and what Christ went through for His love for me. That's a revelation I will never forget even though I have had a few other ones.

 

[Chopper]

The truth of divine revelation is taught as the answer to every problem in each Epistle. Each epistle is written to churches which were blood-washed and Spirit-filled, so when Paul prays for such churches as the Ephesians church to have a revelation in the knowledge of Christ, he is praying for this to take place in a church which is blood washed and Spirit filled and coming behind in no spiritual gift.
Thus it is obvious that if anyone wanted to make a point of it, he could have disagreed with Paul.
Many didn't because to them it seemed Paul was bringing a new doctrine.
But instead of being new, it was really the fullness of all that God was and is trying to do, wrapped up in a term.

Man, within himself, cannot know God. Man, through the blessings of God, cannot know him. Man, through the temporal life, cannot know God. Neither does man, through the free gifts of healing, salvation and the baptism in the Holy Spirit, come to know God.
For these reasons, the Apostle brings the message of Revelation to already-established churches.
This is not a controversial truth to most Bible scholars. The fact we need a revelation of Jesus Christ is agreed upon by all those who are willing to take the word, pure and undefiled, as it is written.
The controversy starts over how to receive this revelation. As usual in Gods work, the doctrine never divides, it is always the method. If you just believed the doctrine and never put a method with it you would be all right.
Most people are pleased when I preach the crucified life. But when I state a method by which to live it, they get angry. They don't want to live a truth, they just want to talk about it.
The eternal securitist, for instance, is quick to say that he has been baptized in the Holy Spirit, but when you turn to the Scriptures and pick out occasions when people were baptized in the Holy Spirit and use that for a pattern for receiving the Holy Spirit, he gets upset, he doesn't want methods.
We do not want practicality, we do not want to get down to business to see whether or not we measure up to the pattern. We prefer to say "I have it" without ever having to produce it, live it or make it practical.
It is amazing how much Christianity is based purely on talk and receiving of blessings. The two go hand in hand. We have received blessings and we talk about doctrines, but we cannot do both without living the life.
The revelation of Jesus Christ is the same way, Paul's epistles are full of the method of receiving the revelation of Jesus Christ.
Not just a revelation, but the revelation of Jesus Christ, Gal. 1:11-12.
Everybody has had a revelation, Jim Jones had a revelation, David Karesh had a revelation, but the method I speak of is the revelation of Jesus Christ, the indwelling life of Jesus Christ.
I am sure Manson himself had some kind of Revelation.
Every believer must have "the revelation of Jesus Christ" to really fully understand what God is doing right now, John 14:20.

For years, I liked Galatians 2:20...."I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

Revelation? O yes!! First it was I am crucified with Christ. In one of the churches, I had an artist. I asked her to draw me a picture of Christ on the cross, and me behind Him being crucified with Him. She did, and as I looked at that drawing each day, the revelation of that Truth became very real in my spirit. Continually, I felt the awesome reality of my dead-ness and resurrection to the Christ-life in me.

Next was a revelation of the Truth of the literal Jesus Christ living in me. Jesus' love took hold of my heart and began to express love in places and people that I had never experienced before.

Next was a revelation of "I live by the faith of the Son of God" I always thought that I needed to learn all about how to get more faith for the work of God. Then I realized that my searched ended by revelation in the KJV's translation of I live by Jesus' faith, not my own little mustard seed size.

Next was, how to release Jesus' faith for what I see that needs to be done. Then it dawned on me, If Jesus lives in me, His faith is already in me, all I have to do is call on Jesus for His faith to solve what ever I see that would be His will to do. That was a great revelation, all in one verse. O praise and glory to King Jesus.

 

[Hermit]

Long time ago, when I was fully into worldly matters (the devil's domain), I just finished reading a university text book on nuclear physics. I closed the book and pushed it away from me and pondered on all that I read and proved via the maths it contained. After about half an hour of contemplation I realized that all this cannot be without a plan, a Divine Plan. I then prayed in mind saying "God, I want to get to know you". Suddenly I get a knock on the front door. I thought 'how inconvenient, and to get a knock on my door considering nobody knows I live here'. So I got up grudgingly and answered the door. The women door knocker suddenly said "We have a bible study tomorrow, would you be interested to attend?" Well, how could I say no!

That was the start of a revival in Christ. Have been getting to know God ever since, and still feel as if I will only get to know a drop of His Ocean. But what a drop!

 

[Hermit]

...We have received blessings and we talk about doctrines, but we cannot do both without living the life.
The revelation of Jesus Christ is the same way, Paul's epistles are full of the method of receiving the revelation of Jesus Christ.
Not just a revelation, but the revelation of Jesus Christ, Gal. 1:11-12.
I want you to know, brothers and sisters, that the gospel I preached is not of human origin. I did not receive it from any man, nor was I taught it; rather, I received it by revelation from Jesus Christ.
...Every believer must have "the revelation of Jesus Christ" to really fully understand what God is doing right now, John 14:20.
On that day you will realize that I am in my Father, and you are in me, and I am in you.

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John 15:4-6 Remain in me, as I also remain in you. No branch can bear fruit by itself; it must remain in the vine. Neither can you bear fruit unless you remain in me. "I am the vine; you are the branches. If you remain in me and I in you, you will bear much fruit; apart from me you can do nothing. If you do not remain in me, you are like a branch that is thrown away and withers; such branches are picked up, thrown into the fire and burned..."​

" apart from me you can do nothing..." That is very definite! It speaks from a reference point of Spirit/Truth. Anything else is not Spirit/Truth, but a fabrication of worldly stories about life. A realm fabricated by a world run on self-will. 100% self-deception. Those caught up in it do not know they are caught up in it. The deceived do not know they are deceived because they are deceived.

Rev 12:9 The great dragon was hurled down, that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him.​

1 Corinthians 12:3 Therefore I want you to know that no one who is speaking by the Spirit of God says, "Jesus be cursed," and no one can say, "Jesus is Lord," except by the Holy Spirit.​

Jeremiah 17:7-8 "But blessed is the one who trusts in the LORD, whose confidence is in him. They will be like a tree planted by the water that sends out its roots by the stream. It does not fear when heat comes; its leaves are always green. It has no worries in a year of drought and never fails to bear fruit."​

In other words, as soon as we feel fear, or tension, (and it comes in hundreds of different forms) we have subsided from remaining in Christ. So let fear and tension, no matter how subtle, be a red flag for us, as a warning beacon, telling us that we are slipping. To let go and let Christ take over. Let God's-will be our guide. Return to gentle waters, where confidence brings softness and gentleness back into our hearts. Let the Love in us ripen and sweeten the fruit in us to be shared with the faithful.