Four blessings of the death of Christ !

[beloved57]

Four blessings of the death of Christ !

1 Cor 6:11

And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.


This is how we know that Christ's death was not for all mankind without exception, though it was for men without distinction. Every sinner Christ died for, from it, they are # 1. Washed this is the greek word apolouó and it means:

I wash off, mid: I wash away (my sins, in baptism).

(from 575 /apó, "away from" and 3068 /loúō, "wash") – properly, wash away. This strengthened form of 3068 /loúō ("to wash") refers to an entire washing – the complete removal of sin and its debt.


It entails that every last one of them have been washed of their sins and sin debt before a Holy God. Its like when David said Ps 103:12

As far as the east is from the west, so far hath he removed our transgressions from us.

to have washed away their sins, i. e. to have been cleansed from their sins.Its what the writer of Hebrews means here Heb 1:3

Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high:

See, when Christ died for the sins of the elect, He purged their sins. That word purge katharismos also means:

a cleansing from the guilt of sins

They can never be guilty of their sins before God, lest Christ's death lost its power with God ! Also look at Rev 1:5

who by suffering the bloody death of a vicarious sacrifice cleansed us from the guilt of our sins, Revelation 1:5 !

And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,

When did He Love us and wash away our sins ? Was it when we became believers ? No, He Loved us from the foundation of the world, and He washed away our sins when Christ died, shed His Blood !

This He did for every sinner He died for ! They are not guilty of any sins before God !

 

[Jim Parker]

They are not guilty of any sins before God !

Until they sin again.
Then, 1Jo 1:9 (RSV) If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just, and will forgive our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

 

[beloved57]

THe apostle John's comment is invalid????

The Apostle John did not make your comment ! I was referring to your comment , scripture is fine !

 

[beloved57]

Four blessings of the death of Christ !2


Blessing #2 Sanctified ! Not only was every sinner Christ died for washed, but they were also Sanctified ! The word sanctified here in 1 Cor 6:11 is the greek word hagiazó: to make holy, consecrate, sanctify,hagiázō (from 40 /hágios, "holy") – to regard as special (sacred), i.e. holy ("set apart"), sanctify

His Death alone makes them Holy and sets them apart, separates them from the world,makes them sacred before God, because of Christ's Blood.

Its the same word and meaning the inspired writer of Hebrews uses here Heb 10:10

10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all. Yes, this is the same thing stated in 1 Cor 6:11, being sanctified by the death of Christ !

Once again Heb 13:12

12 Wherefore Jesus also, that he might sanctify the people with his own blood, suffered without the gate.

Notice how He sanctified the people, with His own Blood ! John Gill writes on this verse:

that he might sanctify the people with his own blood: by "the people" are meant the people who are the objects of divine love and favour; a chosen and covenant people; a distinct and peculiar people; Christ's own special people, by the gift of his Father to him: and the sanctification of them does not design the internal sanctification of them, though this is from Christ, and in consequence of his blood; nor does it so much regard the cleansing of the filth of sin, though Christ's blood sanctifies, in this sense; but rather the expiation of the guilt of sin, which Christ has fully took away; complete pardon being procured, and a perfect righteousness brought in:

Every sinner Christ died for, when they come into the world as enemies Rom 5:10, they have already been washed, sanctified by Christ's death ! This of course doesnt apply to all mankind without exception, the scripture doesnt support such a false hood !

 

[Sinthesis]

Christ's death was for all mankind without exception.

1Jo 2:1 ¶ My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
1Jo 2:2 - And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.​

 

[Jim Parker]

The Apostle John did not make your comment ! I was referring to your comment , scripture is fine !

The scripture says that when believers sin they are to confess and they will be forgiven.
I said the same thing.

 

[beloved57]

Four blessings of the death of Christ !3

Blessing # 3, those Christ died for, by His death alone they have been Justified 1 Cor 6:11

And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

That word Justified is the greek word dikaioō an means :

1. 
   
   
   • to render righteous or such he ought to be
   • to show, exhibit, evince, one to be righteous, such as he is and wishes himself to be considered
   • to declare, pronounce, one to be just, righteous, or such as he ought to be
     
     Its the verb form of the adjective dikaios which Paul uses in Rom 5:19
     
     For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous/Justified.
     
     And this being made righteous came as a direct result of the Obedience of Christ, His Person and Work.
     
     Thats why Paul says in 1 Cor 6:11, these things happened in the name of the Lord Jesus, because they happened through His Person and Work for them !
     

 

[beloved57]

The accomplishments of Christ death !

The death of Christ accomplished the full salvation of all for whom He died. His Covenantal Death provides all things so that they He died for are converted to God by Him Rom 8:32

He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?

Now what are some of the all things He gives them He was delivered up for ?

He gives them Justification ! Rom 4:25

Who was delivered for[because of] our offences, and was raised again for[because of] our justification.

Thats right folks, those Christ died for, was delivered up for, gave them Justification. If it didnt, He would not have been raised again, and they He was delivered for would still be in their sins, charged against them. But His resurrection proves that He and they were Justified before God. The same Truth is in Rom 5:18

Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men [that He was delivered up for Rom 4:25;8:32] unto justification of life.

So everyone Christ died for, provided with Him, was their Justification to life ! Everyone born into the world as sinners and ungodly enemies, that Christ was delivered for, are born Justified regardless, by the righteousness of one !

 

[Jim Parker]

The death of Christ accomplished the full salvation of all for whom He died.

Christ died for the whole world. Jhn 1:29

If it didnt, He would not have been raised again, and they He was delivered for would still be in their sins, charged against them.

Sins, Charged against them???
Are you RC?
The teaching that sin was an offense (like a crime) which required a punishment equal to the crime against God arose from the the teaching of the RCC as spelled out in the tract "cur deus homo" written by 11th century RC Archbishop Anselm of Canterbury.
(See: http://www.archive.org/stream/curdeushomo00anse/curdeushomo00anse_djvu.txt)

Sin is not a "crime against God." It is falling short of the glory of God. It is choosing one's own will over the will of God as Adam did.
God does not kill us with the second death because we committed a crime against Him. We die the second death because we choose our will over his and thereby separate ourselves from the eternal life which can only be had by being united to God in Christ.

God did not say to Adam, "If you eat that fruit, I will kill you."
He said, "if you eat it you will die."
It was a warning, not a threat.

iakov the fool

 

[beloved57]

Christ died for the whole world. Jhn 1:29

Sins, Charged against them???
Are you RC?
The teaching that sin was an offense (like a crime) which required a punishment equal to the crime against God arose from the the teaching of the RCC as spelled out in the tract "cur deus homo" written by 11th century RC Archbishop Anselm of Canterbury.
(See: http://www.archive.org/stream/curdeushomo00anse/curdeushomo00anse_djvu.txt)

Sin is not a "crime against God." It is falling short of the glory of God. It is choosing one's own will over the will of God as Adam did.
God does not kill us with the second death because we committed a crime against Him. We die the second death because we choose our will over his and thereby separate ourselves from the eternal life which can only be had by being united to God in Christ.

God did not say to Adam, "If you eat that fruit, I will kill you."
He said, "if you eat it you will die."
It was a warning, not a threat.

iakov the fool

Hey, you have totally evaded my points made with scripture. Did you understand them? Let's discuss them one by one.

 

[beloved57]

Four blessings of the death of Christ !4

Now as we see in 1 Cor 6:11, theres listed 4 Blessings that flow from the death of Christ alone :

11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

We looked at being washed, sanctified, and justified, but the 4th blessing is that of Justification, washing, Sanctification by the Spirit of Our God. In other words, those Christ died for will receive the Gift of the Spirit, for its an redemptive Gift for all whom Christ died for and redeemed by His Blood, Gal 3:13-14

13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:


14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we[the redeemed] might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.


Paul states it again in Gal 4:4-6


4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,


5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we[the redeemed] might receive the adoption of sons.


6 And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.

The Spirit after its sent into our hearts, so fulfilling the New Covenant Promise Ezk 36:25-27


25 Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you.
26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

Notice the New Heart is given in Vs 26, then the Spirit is given within it, so states Gal 4:6

6 And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.

The Holy Spirit indwells the New Heart, not the old stony heart of nature, its taken away Ez 36:26

26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.

The stony heart of the flesh is the heart you and i have by nature towards God ! But alas, the Blessings of Christ's death remedies that problem !

Theres not one sinner Christ died for that has not been given #1 Washing, #2sanctification, #3Justification, and #4the Spirit of God

 

[Jim Parker]

Hey, you have totally evaded my points made with scripture. Did you understand them? Let's discuss them one by one.

You said: "Thats right folks, those Christ died for, was delivered up for, gave them Justification. If it didnt, He would not have been raised again, and they He was delivered for would still be in their sins, charged against them"
I responded to what I perceived to be the idea that sin is like a crime committed against God which requires an appropriate punishment. That is a western (Roman) theological development.(Augustine, Anselm, Thomas Aquinas)
Did I misunderstand you?

Christ was raised again, not because He "gave justification," but, because He had no sin and, therefore, had not earned a death.
The wages of sin is death. He had no sin so His voluntary death to "take away the sin of the world" (John 1:29) had the effect of destroying the power of death overall of mankind. Because of Jesus' voluntary death, no human being will be held in the grave forever; all will be resurrected. 1 Cor 15:51-57
He could be raised, never to die again, because he Had no sin.
He was raised for our "justification." As God raised Jesus by His power, so He will raise all mankind by that same power. (1Cor 6:19) The concept behind God's "justification" (Greek: DIKAIOSUNE) is the Hebraic concept of the divine energy which accomplishes man's salvation. (Heb: “tsedaka.” ) and is parallel and almost synonymous to the other Hebraic word, “hesed” which means "mercy", "compassion", "love", and to the word, “emeth” which means "fidelity", "truth".

Unfortunately, in the western church, the word "DIKAIOSUNE" carried along with it into Latin the pagan Greek legal concept of the justice of the courtroom. God does not hold anyone guilty of sin who will repent and believe the Gospel. (John 3:16)
That is not justice; it is mercy.
It is not a legal decision; it is an act of love.

Then you said "But His resurrection proves that He (Jesus) and they were Justified before God. The same Truth is in Rom 5:18"
That is not what the verse you cited says.
Jesus, having no sin, had absolutely no need to be justified before God.
Ro 5:18 says: "Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life."
Paul was teaching that the offense of Adam brought judgment upon all of mankind and, in contrast, the righteousness of Jesus brought justification unto life for all mankind.
Paul did NOT, in any manner, imply that Jesus was justified before God.
Jesus was the agent (tsedaka) of God's justification of mankind to open the gates of the Kingdom of God to whosoever believes.


iakov the fool


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[beloved57]

jim

You said: "Thats right folks, those Christ died for, was delivered up for, gave them Justification. If it didnt, He would not have been raised again, and they He was delivered for would still be in their sins, charged against them"

Thats correct. Because if Christ had not been raised, it meant that those He died for would still be in their sins, and faith would be vain, it would believe a lie. 1 Cor 15:17

And if Christ has not been raised, your faith is futile; you are still in your sins.

But since Christ was raised, then that means those He died for are not in their sins, He was raised for their Justification Rom 4:25 !

you replied

I responded to what I perceived to be the idea that sin is like a crime committed against God which requires an appropriate punishment. That is a western (Roman) theological development.(Augustine, Anselm, Thomas Aquinas)
Did I misunderstand you?

I dont know what you are talking about. Lets please discuss the scripture I posted to make my point with !

 

[Jim Parker]

I dont know what you are talking about.

Yeah, I can see that.
Oh well..........


iakov the fool


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[Mustard Socks]

Until they sin again.
Then, 1Jo 1:9 (RSV) If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just, and will forgive our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

Odd don't you think? That when we repent and accept Jesus' blood washed our sins clean . And God His Father would remember them no more. Only to tally new sins against us after we've accepted Jesus and become alive in him, whereas we were dead in sin before that.
Now, being one with Christ makes us sinners still? How can we be within the body of a sinless man and His Holy Spirit dwell in us as we take it on a journey of sinning?
We were washed clean of our sin only so we could have fresh space to tally new ones? Only now we're forgiven? Whereas prior to our redemption we were told all we had to do was accept Jesus into ourselves, our lives, and we'd be forgiven our sins and come alive in him?

If we sin again we can lose our 're-newal experiences' until we confess to an omniscient Father we did what accepting Jesus washed us clean of?