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Do we know if any of the seven seals have been already opened? Rev 6
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I believe differ than most.Do we know if any of the seven seals have been already opened? Rev 6
Amen, well said, I agree, but that is also the trumps, the action of the seals.2 Peter 3:1 This second epistle, beloved, I now write unto you; in both which I stir up your pure minds by way of remembrance:
2 Peter 3:2 That ye may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us the apostles of the Lord and Savior:
2 Peter 3:3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
Revelation 6:1-8
First seal - white horse, Matthew 24:5
Second seal - red horse Matthew 24:6
Third seal - black horse Matthew 24:7
Fourth seal - pale horse Matthew 24:8,9
The scoffers say we have always had wars and rumors of war, nations against nations, pestilences, and earth quakes and they are right about that, but do not see the greater sign even here in America that all these things are on a greater scale worldwide and not centrally located anymore. The increase is the beginning of sorrows spoken of in Matthew 24:1-13 and Rev Chapter six as I believe we are into the first six seals with the seventh seal getting closer that begins the seven trumpets sounding. Maybe in our life time or not, it is still coming and now is the time to be prepared for the return of the Lord.
They do not see that of antichrist who will promise peace and show great wonders in the sky that could even deceive the very elect if possible as this false prophet will show that of Christ coming in the air and many will see this false christ and take the mark of this beast, bowing down and worship the beast, Revelation chapter 13.
Revelation 6:1-8:
And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.
White horse represents a rider with great power and authority as in early wars where Generals would always ride a white horse as they went forth conquering and to conquer. The rider of this white horse is a false Christ: Matthew 24:5, 24; Revelation 19:11-15.
And when he had opened the second seal, I heard the second beast say, Come and see. And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword.
Red horse symbolizes Global war bringing much bloodshed to the land. The rider on the red horse takes peace from the earth and they should kill one another and there was given unto him a great sword: Matthew 24:6-10; Revelation 19:15
And when he had opened the third seal, I heard the third beast say, Come and see. And I beheld, and lo a black horse; and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his hand. And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine.
Black horse is a symbol of famine as the rider holds a pair of balances in his hands causing much famine which follows after wars. Many will not be able to afford a days wage in order to feed for their families. Instead of coming to God they reach out to the beast out of the earth as they receive the mark of this beast, Rev 13; 1 Kings 8:37-43; Romans 8:34.
And when he had opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth beast say, Come and see. And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.
Pale horse is a symbol of sickness and disease that follows after war that causes great famine in the world as many become sick and weak from dehydration and malnutrition and eventually die.
The pale horse riders name is Death. Following Death is Hell which means one that is laid in a grave after they have physically died as you can read in Strong’s Exhausted Concordance Hebrew #7585 – Greek # 86. Death is not a final destination, but a state of being until Christ returns and all, saint and sinner, will hear the voice of Christ to raise from their graves as some will raise to eternal life and some to eternal damnation, John 5:28, 29, Revelation 20:11-15.
How many times does the wrath of God appear? OnceI have to disagree as I do see the seven seals being in order leading up to the seventh seal being opened that starts the sounding of the first trump.
There are three woes in Revelations as each one is worse than the other. The first one starts with the opening of the seventh seal in Rev 8:1 through Rev 9:12 that include the first five trumpets. The second woe starts in Rev 9:13 with the sixth trumpet and ends in Rev 11:14. The third woe starts with the seventh trumpet in Rev 11:15 ending in Rev 20:15.
It's during the sounding of the seventh trumpet as being the last trumpet mentioned in 1 Corinthians 15:52 and 1 Thessalonians 4:16 that during this last trumpet mystery Babylon being the mother of harlots will be revealed as the the son of perdition will be exposed, 2 Thessalonians 2:3. This is the false prophet as he forces all to bow down to him and take the mark of the beast or face persecution even to death as many saints of God at this time will die a martyr's death for their witness and testimony of Christ. Many who are weak in faith will fall away from Christ as they accept this mark as they fear for their own lives as this is the falling away the scriptures speak of in 2 Thessalonians 2:1-3 and Hebrews 6:4-6 as many will be deceived as even now by all the false doctrines that are being taught by man.
It's not until after the seven vial judgements, Rev 16, that mystery Babylon the great is exposed, Rev 17, and then destroyed, Rev 18, as Christ returns in the air with His army of angels, Rev 19:11-21, being only the heavenly host (angels) as no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven, John 3:13. At this time on the last day, John 6:40, Christ will destroy the beast and the false prophet, being the son of perdition, casting them into the lake of fire and slaying the remnant, possibly being the leaders of every nation that the beast out of the sea in Rev 13 controls and gives power to as they rule over the nations.
I don't see it coming 3 times also.I don't see God's wrath coming three different times, but after the seventh seal is opened begins the sequence and God's timing of each trumpet sounding as with each trumpet the more intense God's wrath is as the nations (people) refuse to turn back to Him.
Jesus does not pour out the seven vials as it is the seven angels of God as Jesus tells them to go their ways and pour out their vials as I believe the voice out of the temple in heaven was Jesus, Rev 16:1. These seven vial judgements are the last part of the seventh trumpet that has sounded. The first vial brought great sores on those who take the mark of the beast. The second vial was poured out upon the sea and every living soul within it died. The third vial was poured out on the rivers and streams of water as they were turned to blood that no man could drink from them. The fourth vial was poured out on the sun that scorched men with fire as they refused to repent. The fifth vial was poured out upon the seat of the beast or in other words the nation of mystery Babylon as this kingdom was plunged in darkness and they gnawed their tongues for they no longer have their seat or great authority. The sixth angel poured his vial out on the great river Euphrates as the water was dried up in order for the three demonic spirits being the dragon (Satan), the beast being the ruling power over the nations and it's false prophet as they prepare for the battle of Armageddon. The seventh vial was poured out into the air as a great voice out of the temple of heaven saying "it is done" as God finished His great wrath upon those who rejected Him and His Son Jesus as now mystery Babylon has been described and it's kingdom destroyed as the people of the earth that drank from her cup bewail her destruction.
Now is the time of Christ return as He sends His angels out to the four corners of the earth to gather His own to Him , Matthew 24:29-31, as with the brightness of His coming, 2 Thessalonians 2:8, He cast the beast and false prophet into the lake of fire and destroys all the remnant, possibly being the rulers in every nation that followed after the beast, Rev 19:11-21.