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Having our name blotted out....

I was wondering if anyone could help me understand better. Does anyone know or understand the scripture that talks about Jesus blotting our names out of the book of life? Is that to the saved? Jesus also said all those who call on the name of the Lord shall be saved. Is the Lord also speaking of those who get saved and fall away? Under what circumstances would God take our names out of the book of life? Thank you all for your help and any responses. God bless you always.
 
Having ones name in the Book of Life is an indication that the individual is saved. Having ones name blotted out of the Book of Life indicates the loss of salvation. There's no other way to look at it.
 
Thank you... I am just struggling with the part that someone could lose salvation when God promises that ALL those who call on His name shall be saved. But I also know it is living the life God intended for us to live and not just saying the prayer. Thank you Gary
 
I agree with Gary.
I think this can be seen as blotting out a person from being considered one of God's people. Moses asked God to blot his own name out of God's book rather than the whole nation of Israel.

Exo 32:30 And it cometh to pass, on the morrow, that Moses saith unto the people, `Ye--ye have sinned a great sin, and now I go up unto Yehovah, if so be I atone for your sin.'
Exo 32:31 And Moses turneth back unto Yehovah, and saith, `Oh this people hath sinned a great sin, that they make to themselves a god of gold;
Exo 32:32 and now, if Thou takest away their sin--and if not--blot me, I pray thee, out of Thy book which Thou hast written.'
Exo 32:33 And Yehovah saith unto Moses, `Whoso hath sinned against Me--I blot him out of My book;

Thank you... I am just struggling with the part that someone could lose salvation when God promises that ALL those who call on His name shall be saved. But I also know it is living the life God intended for us to live and not just saying the prayer. Thank you Gary
But what does it mean to call on His name? Other scriptures describe what the means?
 
I was wondering if anyone could help me understand better. Does anyone know or understand the scripture that talks about Jesus blotting our names out of the book of life? Is that to the saved? Jesus also said all those who call on the name of the Lord shall be saved. Is the Lord also speaking of those who get saved and fall away? Under what circumstances would God take our names out of the book of life? Thank you all for your help and any responses. God bless you always.

I am not 100% positive, but I've thought about this and think that, Jesus died for all man, so it's probable that everyone's name was written into the book of Life and as men live and make choices, that at some point their name is blotted out of the BoL. But what is given in grace must be received in faith, so we have to receive it and if we don't, then are blotted out. I *think*.

2 Corinthians 5:15
15 And that he died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again./
 
Thank you... I am just struggling with the part that someone could lose salvation when God promises that ALL those who call on His name shall be saved. But I also know it is living the life God intended for us to live and not just saying the prayer. Thank you Gary
1 Jn 5:4 For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.
1 Jn 5:5 Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?
1Jn 5:11 And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life (life; not the possibility of death), and this life is in his Son.

Rev 3:5 He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not (Not, not, not) blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.

Dear Sister mswright6488, I wrote the following pamphlet at the following URL link concerning our security in Christ I hope will help your understanding.
Salvation with Security – 1, 2, 3
http://www.christianforums.net/Fell...ds/salvation-with-security-parts-1-2-3.52236/
 
I was wondering if anyone could help me understand better. Does anyone know or understand the scripture that talks about Jesus blotting our names out of the book of life? Is that to the saved? Jesus also said all those who call on the name of the Lord shall be saved. Is the Lord also speaking of those who get saved and fall away? Under what circumstances would God take our names out of the book of life? Thank you all for your help and any responses. God bless you always.
When God writes your name in the book of life, He does so in ink and not pencil. #rest!
 
I am not 100% positive, but I've thought about this and think that, Jesus died for all man, so it's probable that everyone's name was written into the book of Life and as men live and make choices, that at some point their name is blotted out of the BoL. But what is given in grace must be received in faith, so we have to receive it and if we don't, then are blotted out. I *think*.

2 Corinthians 5:15
15 And that he died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again./
Thank you Edward.... (smiles)
 
I just happened to run across this today......

Is your name written in the Lamb’s Book of Life? If so, are you worried that Jesus may blot out your name? It seems that many Christians are. They are afraid that they might do something that will cause Jesus to blot out their names from His Book of Life. It’s like Jesus is sitting in heaven with a pen in one hand and a bottle of correction fluid in the other. Get saved, name goes in. Fail a test, name goes out. Re-commit your life to God, name goes back in. Phew! With all the re-commitments going on, you’d think Jesus was in danger of repetitive stress injury!

But seriously, do you fear that Jesus might remove your name from His book? Is this something that concerns you? It shouldn’t.

The most important book in the universe
If you haven’t heard, the Book of Life lists all those who are saved for eternity. Revelations chapter 20 speaks of a day when the books are opened and the dead are judged according to what they have done. But in terms of your salvation, only one book matters and it’s the Lamb’s Book of Life. If your name is not in this book, you’re cooked:
“If anyone’s name was not found written in the Book of Life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.” (Rev 20:15)

I don’t want to belittle this. It’s very important to make sure that your name is recorded in this book. (If Jesus knows you, you’re in!) But if your name is already recorded in His book, should you be worried about being blotted out? Under the old covenant, the answer seemed to be yes!

“The LORD replied to Moses, ‘Whoever has sinned against me I will blot out of my Book.’” (Exo 32:33)

Under the old covenant, your performance mattered a great deal. You were blessed if you were faithful, but condemned if you weren’t. This meant that people were very conscious of their behavior. They knew that their sins could lead to dire consequences. Under the old covenant you might even pray for your enemies like this:
“May they be blotted out of the Book of Life and not be listed with the righteous.” (Psa 69:28)
But we don’t live under that old sin-conscious covenant. We live under the new and better covenant of God’s grace. Under grace, your performance affects your standing before God not one bit. Jesus did it all. We are not blessed because we are faithful but because He is faithful.

Mixing covenants
So why are Christians afraid that Jesus will blot their names out of His book? Their fear stems from an old covenant interpretation of a new covenant promise. I am sure you know the promise I am referring to. It is found in the exhortation Jesus’ gave to the church in Sardis:
“He who overcomes will, like them, be dressed in white. I will never blot out his name from the Book of Life, but will acknowledge his name before My Father and His angels.” (Rev 3:5)

Here Jesus gives us a wonderful assurance of our eternal salvation. He is promising that He will never blot out our names. Never means never! Yet some read this as if Jesus might yet do the very thing He promised not to do. (If Jesus has promised He won’t do something, but you think He might, isn’t that a bit like calling God a liar?)

Someone with an old covenant mindset looks at this verse and sees only conditions for salvation. They think, “I have to overcome to qualify. If I don’t overcome, I’m going to be blotted out.” To read the verse in this way is to dismiss the cross and make the grace of God of no effect.

But someone with a new covenant mindset looks at this verse in a completely different way. They think, “Jesus has overcome the world and now lives in me. I don’t overcome to qualify – I am qualified by Christ and I now carry His overcoming nature. This is not some test I have to pass, but a wonderful promise regarding my inheritance.” (See 1 Jn 4:4, 5:5, Jn 16:33, and Col 1:12.)

God has perfect knowledge. When He added your name to His book He knew everything you had done and everything you were going to do. There is nothing you can do that will surprise Him, nothing that would cause Him to shake His head with disappointment and say, “I made a mistake adopting that one.” The good news is that God doesn’t make mistakes. When He added you to His book it was for all eternity.

The new thing
There’s only one thing of yours that God promises to blot out, and it’s not your name – it’s your sins:
“I, even I, am He who blots out your transgressions, for my own sake, and remembers your sins no more.” (Isa 43:25)

God promised to blot out all your sins and He did that already. This was the “new thing” foretold by the prophet Isaiah (43:19). Under the old covenant, men’s sins were counted against them. But when Jesus met all the demands of the law at the cross, all your sins were blotted out. Your sin is no longer being imputed to you (2 Cor 5:19). Why did He blot out your sins? He did it for His own sake, because He loves us, and so that we might be reconciled to Him.

If your name is in His book, you have nothing to fear on Judgment Day. If all your sins were blotted out at the cross, then there is no sin left that could get your name removed from His book. This is the gospel of grace. It was new news for Isaiah, is old news for us, but is still good news for everyone.
 
the law and grace in a shadow form existed. the law was given how to live not as a way to get to heaven.every marriage has its rules.THE YHWH married Isreal at Horeb, that is what the torah was for. IF you love me do these things.
 
I just happened to run across this today......

Is your name written in the Lamb’s Book of Life? If so, are you worried that Jesus may blot out your name? It seems that many Christians are. They are afraid that they might do something that will cause Jesus to blot out their names from His Book of Life. It’s like Jesus is sitting in heaven with a pen in one hand and a bottle of correction fluid in the other. Get saved, name goes in. Fail a test, name goes out. Re-commit your life to God, name goes back in. Phew! With all the re-commitments going on, you’d think Jesus was in danger of repetitive stress injury!

But seriously, do you fear that Jesus might remove your name from His book? Is this something that concerns you? It shouldn’t.

The most important book in the universe
If you haven’t heard, the Book of Life lists all those who are saved for eternity. Revelations chapter 20 speaks of a day when the books are opened and the dead are judged according to what they have done. But in terms of your salvation, only one book matters and it’s the Lamb’s Book of Life. If your name is not in this book, you’re cooked:
“If anyone’s name was not found written in the Book of Life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.” (Rev 20:15)

I don’t want to belittle this. It’s very important to make sure that your name is recorded in this book. (If Jesus knows you, you’re in!) But if your name is already recorded in His book, should you be worried about being blotted out? Under the old covenant, the answer seemed to be yes!

“The LORD replied to Moses, ‘Whoever has sinned against me I will blot out of my Book.’” (Exo 32:33)

Under the old covenant, your performance mattered a great deal. You were blessed if you were faithful, but condemned if you weren’t. This meant that people were very conscious of their behavior. They knew that their sins could lead to dire consequences. Under the old covenant you might even pray for your enemies like this:
“May they be blotted out of the Book of Life and not be listed with the righteous.” (Psa 69:28)
But we don’t live under that old sin-conscious covenant. We live under the new and better covenant of God’s grace. Under grace, your performance affects your standing before God not one bit. Jesus did it all. We are not blessed because we are faithful but because He is faithful.

Mixing covenants
So why are Christians afraid that Jesus will blot their names out of His book? Their fear stems from an old covenant interpretation of a new covenant promise. I am sure you know the promise I am referring to. It is found in the exhortation Jesus’ gave to the church in Sardis:
“He who overcomes will, like them, be dressed in white. I will never blot out his name from the Book of Life, but will acknowledge his name before My Father and His angels.” (Rev 3:5)

Here Jesus gives us a wonderful assurance of our eternal salvation. He is promising that He will never blot out our names. Never means never! Yet some read this as if Jesus might yet do the very thing He promised not to do. (If Jesus has promised He won’t do something, but you think He might, isn’t that a bit like calling God a liar?)

Someone with an old covenant mindset looks at this verse and sees only conditions for salvation. They think, “I have to overcome to qualify. If I don’t overcome, I’m going to be blotted out.” To read the verse in this way is to dismiss the cross and make the grace of God of no effect.

But someone with a new covenant mindset looks at this verse in a completely different way. They think, “Jesus has overcome the world and now lives in me. I don’t overcome to qualify – I am qualified by Christ and I now carry His overcoming nature. This is not some test I have to pass, but a wonderful promise regarding my inheritance.” (See 1 Jn 4:4, 5:5, Jn 16:33, and Col 1:12.)

God has perfect knowledge. When He added your name to His book He knew everything you had done and everything you were going to do. There is nothing you can do that will surprise Him, nothing that would cause Him to shake His head with disappointment and say, “I made a mistake adopting that one.” The good news is that God doesn’t make mistakes. When He added you to His book it was for all eternity.

The new thing
There’s only one thing of yours that God promises to blot out, and it’s not your name – it’s your sins:
“I, even I, am He who blots out your transgressions, for my own sake, and remembers your sins no more.” (Isa 43:25)

God promised to blot out all your sins and He did that already. This was the “new thing” foretold by the prophet Isaiah (43:19). Under the old covenant, men’s sins were counted against them. But when Jesus met all the demands of the law at the cross, all your sins were blotted out. Your sin is no longer being imputed to you (2 Cor 5:19). Why did He blot out your sins? He did it for His own sake, because He loves us, and so that we might be reconciled to Him.

If your name is in His book, you have nothing to fear on Judgment Day. If all your sins were blotted out at the cross, then there is no sin left that could get your name removed from His book. This is the gospel of grace. It was new news for Isaiah, is old news for us, but is still good news for everyone.

Would you mind posting a reference link?
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I was wondering if anyone could help me understand better. Does anyone know or understand the scripture that talks about Jesus blotting our names out of the book of life? Is that to the saved? Jesus also said all those who call on the name of the Lord shall be saved. Is the Lord also speaking of those who get saved and fall away? Under what circumstances would God take our names out of the book of life? Thank you all for your help and any responses. God bless you always.
It means what it says it does.

The Bible talks about the Great Apostasy, that is people who have fallen are falling and will fall away. We can't fall away from something if we weren't first apart of it.

Falling away from the Lord in this manner, will get a name blotted from the book.
 
Please name one of your specific sins that was left hanging over your head.... either of you.

Mine were paid for.
 
Please name one of your specific sins that was left hanging over your head.... either of you.

Mine were paid for.

Reconcile your sinlessness with this.

1 John 1
8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar, and His word is not in us.

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Please name one of your specific sins that was left hanging over your head.... either of you.

Mine were paid for.
All future sins are not forgiven, that is why Jesus taught us to pray and ask for forgiveness and in my obedience to Jesus, I will follow in His footsteps.

Our sins our not shoved under a carpet and ignored, if God no longer sees our sins.........why all the talk about sin? Jesus talked about it, Paul talks about it, James talks about it, John talks about it - they all talk extensively about our sins. God knows our works, it's either good or bad. God is not this blind god running around sayinig - "I didn't see it, I didn't see him do that". He sees our sin.
 
I agree, the Cross did NOT blot out all our sins. That is so far from the truth.

Otherwise I think all the apostles didn't get that memo.....Jesus didn't either....
Careful Jesse, the scripture says, "But even if we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to what we have preached to you, he is to be accursed! As we have said before, so I say again now, if any man is preaching to you a gospel contrary to what you received, he is to be accursed!…"Galatians 1:8-9 NASB

This is a double curse God announces!!!!!!!
 
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