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I have spent many years not knowing what to believe. My wife's family are Christians but they are also hypocrites. They are very smart when it comes to the bible but yet their actions say how mean and judgmental they are. I have spent so many years not knowing what to believe, one moment i will think I believe in God and the other i think when i die their is nothing else. My brother and his daughter are athiest and say they believe in science not in god.....I have had rough life after being hit by a car when i was 3 and I was in a coma for 10 days and had brain damage which I did overcome but my life has been a struggle as a result, but i constantly try to believ ein god but i find it so hard and everyone says to get in the word so i did and i thought as they say my life would get better and things would happen for the better if I did that but nothing changed and then there are people that said pray about it so i did that over and over again asking god to build my belief help me believe and understanding while reading the bible everyday but after doing it for such a time period and as i still struggled and i want to believe....I have diabetes and i wont live a long life and im so scared of death and if i believe in god it would make it easier but i just dont know what i believe.....im hoping one of you can tell me something that would help me believe in God without a doubt.....so can you help me believe? Please.....my wifes family being so judgmental but they slam god down your throat and it makes it even harder for me to believe in god because of it.....before i married my wife i married her after a short time only to please her family after i would get hateful emails from them about how im facing the wrath of god and i was not ready to get married but to make things easier i just proposed, thought they would backoff and stop judging us but that has never ended, so can you please help me believe
 
jimdolecek said:
I have spent many years not knowing what to believe.
help me believe
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Hi and welcome jimdolecek. You’re facing problems many do when they begin weighing the pros and cons of religion to begin with. If you’re looking at the lives of other’s exhibited virtues to judge God’s authenticity, try looking at you and examine if you’ve fulfilled every dream, or goal you’ve set before you. Not only are those of this world, or unbelievers not walking according to natural morality, but even those of us in Christ are all in different stages of growth spiritually.

You’ve evidently considered your eternity, and I personally do not believe that it is accidental; God calls us. You said that you studied your bible daily, had been told to pray about it, and nothing changed even though you wanted to believe. You also have a testimony of suffering physically; have you ever once called out to God to help you? If you did, do you realize that that is the criterion to eternal life? Consider the following scripture.
Rom 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
Rom 10:14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed?

You also mention your brother and niece being atheists, and believing in science, and not God. What do you think of that? Have you ever considered that ever weather forecasts are science?

Dear friend, with your testimony, I believe that you have received Christ as your Savior, and now I would have you come to know who you are in Christ. Please take a look at this following pamphlet I wrote of the security we have in Christ once we’re saved, and I pray it gives you peace. Just click on the following URL link.
Salvation with Security – 1, 2, 3
http://www.christianforums.net/Fell...ds/salvation-with-security-parts-1-2-3.52236/

Blessings in Christ Jesus. :wave2
 
Hey brother jimdolecek. Let me just tell you one thing, what you're going through is completely one hundred percent normal. I went through it myself. And even though I'm getting baptized in a couple of months, there are times where I still question my faith and have my doubts. But let me just ask you a question. It appears like you really want to believe in the word of God, so why would you be so concerned about your faith if nothing changed and you still didn't believe? It's like my buddy Eugene above me just posted; "For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved." So it sounds to me like you don't have anything to be worried about. :) You only think you do because Satan is playing his little mind games with you. Please don't let him fool you. Also, in the part of you brother and niece believing in science and not religion, let me tell you something else.. believe it or not my brother is a Sunday school teacher and a scientist. After all, God's the one who created it in the first place isn't He? :wink
 
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Click on the Scriptures below.

Hi Jim, There is nothing you can do to please God that He might save you....nothing! What God gave us was a gift to us, who through Christ, paid for or debt. Do not judge God or all Christians by your in-laws. Until we see ourselves for what we really are, (that includes all men) we can not understand God's Mercy and Grace. It sounds like you may be suffering from "anxiety" attacks or maybe even depression. I would talk things over with your doctor as you have reached out to us. Feelings can interfere with trusting God. God does not save us by how we feel, but by why we call on Him, and that reason should be "Oh retched man that I'am, who shall save me from this body of death?"(Rom. 7:24). This is what Paul, and most of the rest of us realized about ourselves (Rom. 7:15-24). But there is by only one name that a man might be saved (Acts 4:10-12). For those who call upon the name of the lord....will be saved (Rom. 10:12-14). Then Paul could finally say with confidence (Rom. 7:25) (Rom. 8:1-2).....And this is how faithful and how much God loves us. (Rom. 8:28-39).
I hope this helps some Jim....Post us anytime.
In Christ Eternal Mercy and Grace
Douglas Summers BTW...God deserves a Capitol G. The word god could be anything people worship, but The one and only God is capitalized.
 
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Hey Jim,
Welcome.

You have an interesting story and its nice to hear you describe how you are looking for God and "proof".
Here is the thing......what would you accept as "proof"?
For me, when i want proof, i just look at flowers, and the blue sky, and the lovely stars, and how a mother holds her child so close and so tenderly, and how music can be so beautiful and so filled with meaning.
See, I realize that because God made ME, and YOU, in His "Image", then He has gifted us all with the ability to perceive beauty, as beauty.
Here is what i mean..
Go to any sunset and notice the red sky and the yellow colors in the sky, and watch the red sun descend as a ball into the ocean and disappear, and you'll notice that this is beautiful.....You'll feel an emotion, because you have been touched by something beautiful.......the sunset.........the beauty of this event.
And the reason you feel this, is because GOD has created only MAN, only us, to be able to perceive BEAUTY and be affected by it, inside.
The wonder of this, is that God is the same.....He is affected by beauty, and by lovli things.
And how do we know?......Its because He has created them for us both, .....Him and us, to enjoy.
John 1:10 says that Jesus was in the world that was created through Him.
We enjoy what He enjoys....And the bible says He created it ALL around us, to be "richly enjoyed"......
So, God is all around us when we consider the order of the universe and the songs of the birds singing them in the Springtime.
He created it ALL, all of NATURE, as BEAUTIFUL PROOF, of Himself, of His ability to create it all and then gave us the inner ability to recognize and enjoy the beauty of it all.

Now why am i talking about this ability to enjoy "beauty" and to perceive "beauty"?
Because only man can perceive something as beautiful.
No other animal can.
For example, a cat does not perceive a sunset, or a rainbow, or a dozen white roses as "beautiful', nor can they understand the love in God's heart for us, that gave us all the beauty in the universe for us to enjoy.
But we who are made in GODs IMAGE CAN understand and engage and appreciate the beauty around us, as the absolute proof of a Loving God who gives us "all things richly to enjoy".......... exactly the same as He does.

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Hi Jim and welcome to CF :wave2

What each of us have is a personal relationship with Christ unlike any others, but yet at first we seek, which you are doing and then we find as we are saved by Gods grace through faith that is Christ Jesus, Ephesians 2:8, and His finished works upon the cross. It's a gift from God as all we need to do is believe on Christ and accept Him as Lord and Savior, John 3:5-7; Romans 10:9, 10.

After accepting Christ then you need to find a good Christian support system, Church, Bible study group or even in here as we will help you with whatever questions you might have. Fellowship with other Spiritually born again Christians will help strengthen your growth as your faith grows stronger. Never look at the actions of others as you mentioned your parents for instance. Learn who you are in Christ and who He is in you. Best place to start is with the Book of John in the Bible as this will teach you about your relationship with Christ and who Christ truly is us.
God bless you on your journey as He reveals Himself to you.:pray :)
 
It's pretty negative but my faith in God came from seeing the practicality of His advice in how the people who don't believe in His advice live and effect each other.

It's a cold hard world because of how we made it but I think that there has to be a counterweight to it and that's where God factors in to it.

There may not be much good left in the world but what there is exists because of faith in God and His advice.

I think that you are making it more difficult than it needs to be,just the fact that you are aware of a possible existence of God means that you are much farther along than many others.

Most are too busy to even give Him consideration and that closes the door for them.
 
For right now you should consider yourself fortunate because people influenced by the dark powers do negative things in a effort to place doubt in the minds of true believers.

I have a satanic cult following me everywhere doing that right now,the things that they do are petty and immature like insult me, steal from me, interrupt my mail service and turn anybody that I interact with against me but the collective result is supposed to make me believe that if all this happens to me then there must not be a God so what's the point of living by His advice?

My faith is too strong to allow me to give up like that.
 
jimdolecek said:
I have spent many years not knowing what to believe. My wife's family are Christians but they are also hypocrites. They are very smart when it comes to the bible but yet their actions say how mean and judgmental they are. I have spent so many years not knowing what to believe, one moment i will think I believe in God and the other i think when i die their is nothing else. My brother and his daughter are athiest and say they believe in science not in god.....I have had rough life after being hit by a car when i was 3 and I was in a coma for 10 days and had brain damage which I did overcome but my life has been a struggle as a result, but i constantly try to believ ein god but i find it so hard and everyone says to get in the word so i did and i thought as they say my life would get better and things would happen for the better if I did that but nothing changed and then there are people that said pray about it so i did that over and over again asking god to build my belief help me believe and understanding while reading the bible everyday but after doing it for such a time period and as i still struggled and i want to believe....I have diabetes and i wont live a long life and im so scared of death and if i believe in god it would make it easier but i just dont know what i believe.....im hoping one of you can tell me something that would help me believe in God without a doubt.....so can you help me believe? Please.....my wifes family being so judgmental but they slam god down your throat and it makes it even harder for me to believe in god because of it.....before i married my wife i married her after a short time only to please her family after i would get hateful emails from them about how im facing the wrath of god and i was not ready to get married but to make things easier i just proposed, thought they would backoff and stop judging us but that has never ended, so can you please help me believe
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o wow - i'm so sorry this is your experience with religious people

imo there are "religious people" vs people who have had a loving encounter with our amazing God
 
jimdolecek said:
I have spent many years not knowing what to believe. My wife's family are Christians but they are also hypocrites. They are very smart when it comes to the bible but yet their actions say how mean and judgmental they are. I have spent so many years not knowing what to believe, one moment i will think I believe in God and the other i think when i die their is nothing else. My brother and his daughter are athiest and say they believe in science not in god.....I have had rough life after being hit by a car when i was 3 and I was in a coma for 10 days and had brain damage which I did overcome but my life has been a struggle as a result, but i constantly try to believ ein god but i find it so hard and everyone says to get in the word so i did and i thought as they say my life would get better and things would happen for the better if I did that but nothing changed and then there are people that said pray about it so i did that over and over again asking god to build my belief help me believe and understanding while reading the bible everyday but after doing it for such a time period and as i still struggled and i want to believe....I have diabetes and i wont live a long life and im so scared of death and if i believe in god it would make it easier but i just dont know what i believe.....im hoping one of you can tell me something that would help me believe in God without a doubt.....so can you help me believe? Please.....my wifes family being so judgmental but they slam god down your throat and it makes it even harder for me to believe in god because of it.....before i married my wife i married her after a short time only to please her family after i would get hateful emails from them about how im facing the wrath of god and i was not ready to get married but to make things easier i just proposed, thought they would backoff and stop judging us but that has never ended, so can you please help me believe
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I pray that God provide you with the scriptured spark needed once you decide to believe that will begin your walk to know the Love that God has for you . Leave the fault finding behind and renew your mind with Jesus . Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Word of God .. No better time than now to begin Bro ..
 
jimdolecek said:
I have spent many years not knowing what to believe. My wife's family are Christians but they are also hypocrites. They are very smart when it comes to the bible but yet their actions say how mean and judgmental they are. I have spent so many years not knowing what to believe, one moment i will think I believe in God and the other i think when i die their is nothing else. My brother and his daughter are athiest and say they believe in science not in god.....I have had rough life after being hit by a car when i was 3 and I was in a coma for 10 days and had brain damage which I did overcome but my life has been a struggle as a result, but i constantly try to believ ein god but i find it so hard and everyone says to get in the word so i did and i thought as they say my life would get better and things would happen for the better if I did that but nothing changed and then there are people that said pray about it so i did that over and over again asking god to build my belief help me believe and understanding while reading the bible everyday but after doing it for such a time period and as i still struggled and i want to believe....I have diabetes and i wont live a long life and im so scared of death and if i believe in god it would make it easier but i just dont know what i believe.....im hoping one of you can tell me something that would help me believe in God without a doubt.....so can you help me believe? Please.....my wifes family being so judgmental but they slam god down your throat and it makes it even harder for me to believe in god because of it.....before i married my wife i married her after a short time only to please her family after i would get hateful emails from them about how im facing the wrath of god and i was not ready to get married but to make things easier i just proposed, thought they would backoff and stop judging us but that has never ended, so can you please help me believe
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God is suppose to call you to believe. All of nature is proof of energy and power at work on the cellular level and even beyond that as science is learning more and more about what makes reality happen.
Is that God? Why not? Is that Goddess? Sure. A higher power would not be beholding to gender norms as pertains to human terms.

And human terms is exactly what the bible is in matters of codifying what is eternal mutable power that is to the full human intellect, incomprehensible. The bible is set forth as a control for the natural human inclinations being we're carnal beings. It's set forth in allegory, parables, idioms, analogy, so as to deliver a relevant impression to transport a pertinent lesson as to how to arrive at handling life.

Emmanuel did exist. He was a highly conscious Rabbi who was God incarnate. But we all are that in that we all come from the source that everything else comes from. Call it Goddess, God, or whatever you wish. "No one comes to the Father but through me!" Emmanuel said.
Emmanuel was God. You can't return to God unless you believe in God.

Everything you're being asked to believe in the good news that is the Christian's gospel is a teaching on how to arrive at your center point where you know the wisdom of God, the "kingdom of Heaven", lives. That higher knowledge, gnosis, leads you to behave rightly.
There's a thread here that asks why does evil exist?

If evil didn't exist how would you know to find goodness? Decreed a Heresy centuries ago, heresy being simply a teaching that is unapproved, and yet means nothing in that Dualism is a fact of the bible's teachings. Isaiah 45:7-8. God tells readers Dualism exists because he is it.
Therefore, evil exists because of the one creator of all that is, was, or ever shall be.

And it is all to lead you back to the understanding that your temporal body is the illusion. As the bible tells readers, you are a temple that contains the holy spirit. The holy spirit in scriptures was female. Referred to as wind, breath.
Learn how to breathe properly and awaken your body's center and cells and you'll see the world differently because your senses are fed properly the oxygen required to do that.
Then you can alleviate the depression that makes you think "God" is somewhere else. Rather than within you and all that there is because all that is is of and from God. The separation that the teachings impart is that mortal consciousness that is led to believe by parents, society, that the material is all that is.
Arriving at the higher consciousness that you are energy , the solidity of your body is an illusion when you are actually an innumerable collection of cells that move constantly and to a rhythm. And that rhythm and thus state of being can be altered by vibrations. That's why it is true. You are what you think. If you are depressed due to your diet, your thoughts, your body will accommodate you.
Have a healthy diet, stop all processed sugars and hydrogenated fat intake. Because your body cannot process hydrogenated oils and it instead deposits them into fat cells. But being these fats aren't transferred into energy for your body after awhile your body becomes bogged down with them. Think, excess baggage and the burden of carrying that around all the time.

Change your mind about needing to believe and realize that you exist is proof God does too. It is a relationship not a religion. Religions are something people follow. Relationships are intimate bonds of exchange and communication between co-actors who respect one another.

Every happiness should be yours. :)
 
jimdolecek said:
I have spent many years not knowing what to believe. My wife's family are Christians but they are also hypocrites. They are very smart when it comes to the bible but yet their actions say how mean and judgmental they are. I have spent so many years not knowing what to believe, one moment i will think I believe in God and the other i think when i die their is nothing else. My brother and his daughter are athiest and say they believe in science not in god.....I have had rough life after being hit by a car when i was 3 and I was in a coma for 10 days and had brain damage which I did overcome but my life has been a struggle as a result, but i constantly try to believ ein god but i find it so hard and everyone says to get in the word so i did and i thought as they say my life would get better and things would happen for the better if I did that but nothing changed and then there are people that said pray about it so i did that over and over again asking god to build my belief help me believe and understanding while reading the bible everyday but after doing it for such a time period and as i still struggled and i want to believe....I have diabetes and i wont live a long life and im so scared of death and if i believe in god it would make it easier but i just dont know what i believe.....im hoping one of you can tell me something that would help me believe in God without a doubt.....so can you help me believe? Please.....my wifes family being so judgmental but they slam god down your throat and it makes it even harder for me to believe in god because of it.....before i married my wife i married her after a short time only to please her family after i would get hateful emails from them about how im facing the wrath of god and i was not ready to get married but to make things easier i just proposed, thought they would backoff and stop judging us but that has never ended, so can you please help me believe
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If we live with the burdens of the past we'll fail to see the brilliant new day we awaken to every morning. The past is over with and no longer matters. Don't carry the burdens of yesterday with you because they're over and done with now and can't be changed. All that can be altered about them is your attitude toward what happened.

Your families behaviors as Christians don't matter. It is your relationship with God that is your responsibility and choice.
I agree with the advice to ask God and take your concerns to him in prayer.
God is not male as you know if you read the Bible when you were a believer. He is a spirit. And he is eternally alive and present in all things. Everywhere you look there is God so don't ever think you're alone in this. God knows you by name. Just reintroduce yourself and get on with it.
You can even do a ceremony of rededication so as to start all over again if you want. If there's an ocean or a lake near you Baptize yourself again. Talk to God, unburden yourself, and then go for a swim and imagine it as you cleansing away all of your doubts, all of your fears, all of those burdens.

This is your soul no one elses. God loves you. :) Nothing changes that.
 
God Willing said:
God is suppose to call you to believe. All of nature is proof of energy and power at work on the cellular level and even beyond that as science is learning more and more about what makes reality happen.
Is that God? Why not? Is that Goddess? Sure. A higher power would not be beholding to gender norms as pertains to human terms.

And human terms is exactly what the bible is in matters of codifying what is eternal mutable power that is to the full human intellect, incomprehensible. The bible is set forth as a control for the natural human inclinations being we're carnal beings. It's set forth in allegory, parables, idioms, analogy, so as to deliver a relevant impression to transport a pertinent lesson as to how to arrive at handling life.

Emmanuel did exist. He was a highly conscious Rabbi who was God incarnate. But we all are that in that we all come from the source that everything else comes from. Call it Goddess, God, or whatever you wish. "No one comes to the Father but through me!" Emmanuel said.
Emmanuel was God. You can't return to God unless you believe in God.

Everything you're being asked to believe in the good news that is the Christian's gospel is a teaching on how to arrive at your center point where you know the wisdom of God, the "kingdom of Heaven", lives. That higher knowledge, gnosis, leads you to behave rightly.
There's a thread here that asks why does evil exist?

If evil didn't exist how would you know to find goodness? Decreed a Heresy centuries ago, heresy being simply a teaching that is unapproved, and yet means nothing in that Dualism is a fact of the bible's teachings. Isaiah 45:7-8. God tells readers Dualism exists because he is it.
Therefore, evil exists because of the one creator of all that is, was, or ever shall be.

And it is all to lead you back to the understanding that your temporal body is the illusion. As the bible tells readers, you are a temple that contains the holy spirit. The holy spirit in scriptures was female. Referred to as wind, breath.
Learn how to breathe properly and awaken your body's center and cells and you'll see the world differently because your senses are fed properly the oxygen required to do that.
Then you can alleviate the depression that makes you think "God" is somewhere else. Rather than within you and all that there is because all that is is of and from God. The separation that the teachings impart is that mortal consciousness that is led to believe by parents, society, that the material is all that is.
Arriving at the higher consciousness that you are energy , the solidity of your body is an illusion when you are actually an innumerable collection of cells that move constantly and to a rhythm. And that rhythm and thus state of being can be altered by vibrations. That's why it is true. You are what you think. If you are depressed due to your diet, your thoughts, your body will accommodate you.
Have a healthy diet, stop all processed sugars and hydrogenated fat intake. Because your body cannot process hydrogenated oils and it instead deposits them into fat cells. But being these fats aren't transferred into energy for your body after awhile your body becomes bogged down with them. Think, excess baggage and the burden of carrying that around all the time.

Change your mind about needing to believe and realize that you exist is proof God does too. It is a relationship not a religion. Religions are something people follow. Relationships are intimate bonds of exchange and communication between co-actors who respect one another.

Every happiness should be yours. :)
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:clap I love that. Welcome.


WinterPuma said:
Dear Jim,
This post is precisely what God sent so as to answer your question as to what draws someone to faith in Christ.
Everything there is what leads people to think badly of the faith of our Lord due to the example of those who claim to be his people. The love of Christ transcended hatred, pettiness, ego-centrism, and pride. Which is displayed above.

While the one who is under attack by those remarks speaks as Christ did and with the knowledge of the scriptures, and the spirit that is God's Holy self and that is love eternal.

The word says we will know those who are in Christ by their fruits. Meaning, we will know who is part of the vine of life that is holy God due to how they flourish and blossom with the love of God that is kindled within them. So as to burst forth and multiply in this world and lead by example others to ask from whence their joy comes.

Darkness is compatible with light because it is extinguished by the light. The differences you see in the relationship of UberMink with our holy God and that of Mr.Summers is the same thing. As different as night to day. God see's that too. That in this case darkness attempted to overcome the light while the Father watches.

Go with the light Jim. The darkness does not recognize itself for what it is. It just knows it fears the light because the light makes it disappear.

God be with you Jim. I hope you return to share more here.
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Well said. Though I'm confused. Who is UberMink? The Douglas Summers dark post is to God Willing. I'm missing something for sure.
 
jimdolecek said:
I have spent many years not knowing what to believe. My wife's family are Christians but they are also hypocrites. They are very smart when it comes to the bible but yet their actions say how mean and judgmental they are. I have spent so many years not knowing what to believe, one moment i will think I believe in God and the other i think when i die their is nothing else. My brother and his daughter are athiest and say they believe in science not in god.....I have had rough life after being hit by a car when i was 3 and I was in a coma for 10 days and had brain damage which I did overcome but my life has been a struggle as a result, but i constantly try to believ ein god but i find it so hard and everyone says to get in the word so i did and i thought as they say my life would get better and things would happen for the better if I did that but nothing changed and then there are people that said pray about it so i did that over and over again asking god to build my belief help me believe and understanding while reading the bible everyday but after doing it for such a time period and as i still struggled and i want to believe....I have diabetes and i wont live a long life and im so scared of death and if i believe in god it would make it easier but i just dont know what i believe.....im hoping one of you can tell me something that would help me believe in God without a doubt.....so can you help me believe? Please.....my wifes family being so judgmental but they slam god down your throat and it makes it even harder for me to believe in god because of it.....before i married my wife i married her after a short time only to please her family after i would get hateful emails from them about how im facing the wrath of god and i was not ready to get married but to make things easier i just proposed, thought they would backoff and stop judging us but that has never ended, so can you please help me believe
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Hi Jim,

How’s the decision process coming along? Good that you’re reading your bible. Are things any clearer? Would love some feedback so we can keep you in our prayers. Keep praying, keep reading (esp John’s gospel) don’t give up until you’ve found Him.

Take care and God bless.
 
Many athiests like to critisise christianity and love science but you can give them the facts.

In the 20th century 72.5% of nobel prize winners in chemistry and 65.3% of nobel prize winners in physics identified themselves as christian.

How many athiests were part of the scientific revolution, zero, they all identified as christian, some orthodox some heterodox, none were athiest.
 
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kiwidan said:
Many athiests like to critisise christianity and love science but you can give them the facts.

In the 20th century 72.5% of nobel prize winners in chemistry and 65.3% of nobel prize winners in physics identified themselves as christian.

How many athiests were part of the scientific revolution, zero, they all identified as christian, some orthodox some heterodox, none were athiest.
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You would be surprised how many Medical Doctors who are Christian, and believe in Heaven and Hell.
 
Belief exists because of God's eternal grace. Those that believe pass on grace to others as a matter of course and demonstration of Christ and his example.
Praise the Lord.
 
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