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We as Christians should be in unity about this issue.

This is a cause we can all unify together over.


Let’s pray!

Let’s Vote!



ACLJ Chief Counsel Jay Sekulow and the ACLJ legal team are preparing to defend South Dakota Governor Kristi Noem and her state's critical pro-life law before the 8th Circuit Court of Appeals.

The law requires third-party counseling BEFORE obtaining an abortion. Imagine how many precious unborn babies' lives could be saved if pregnant women were actually given THE FACTS about abortion, instead of the abortion industry's propaganda and deception.

Desperate to topple any legislation that affects its immense profits, Planned Parenthood got this lifesaving law blocked in court.

Now, South Dakota is appealing at the 8th Circuit to have this absurd injunction OVERTURNED, and they'll have the full strength of the ACLJ.

As Jay prepares to battle the powerful abortion giant in court and save countless defenseless babies, we need YOU.



 

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Abortion, uthanasia, casual sex, drugs etc are all secondary issues to the primary cause of making Jesus known.

By all means canpiegn about these things, but do it with care and compassion.
What organisations do you also support who are involved with helping single parent families etc?
 

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Abortion, uthanasia, casual sex, drugs etc are all secondary issues to the primary cause of making Jesus known.

By all means canpiegn about these things, but do it with care and compassion.
What organisations do you also support who are involved with helping single parent families etc?
locally my church goes to an abortion clinic to preach repentance to the mothers who plan to murder their kids ,Grace to those that have and also to those who don't we use Car net .

in America if you use any federal or state agency to assist the poor you legally can't preach the gospel .

we do it anyway .
 

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We as Christians should be in unity about this issue.

This is a cause we can all unify together over.


Let’s pray!

Let’s Vote!



ACLJ Chief Counsel Jay Sekulow and the ACLJ legal team are preparing to defend South Dakota Governor Kristi Noem and her state's critical pro-life law before the 8th Circuit Court of Appeals.

The law requires third-party counseling BEFORE obtaining an abortion. Imagine how many precious unborn babies' lives could be saved if pregnant women were actually given THE FACTS about abortion, instead of the abortion industry's propaganda and deception.

Desperate to topple any legislation that affects its immense profits, Planned Parenthood got this lifesaving law blocked in court.

Now, South Dakota is appealing at the 8th Circuit to have this absurd injunction OVERTURNED, and they'll have the full strength of the ACLJ.

As Jay prepares to battle the powerful abortion giant in court and save countless defenseless babies, we need YOU.




I have never viewed abortion as the tie that binds.

Destroying the fruit of the tree, doesn't change the tree. The U.S. is an anti-christian tree producing many anti-christian fruits

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I have never viewed abortion as the tie that binds.

Destroying the fruit of the tree, doesn't change the tree. The U.S. is an anti-christian tree producing many anti-christian fruits

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I know it must be difficult for you, watching this current administration’s actions, but they don’t represent America, and root from which it sprang up as a nation.


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This inspirational phrase used by John Locke was emblazoned on George Washington’s Revolutionary War flag to remind those over whom it flew that after all other alternatives of seeking justice have been exhausted, only an "appeal to heaven" remains. Colonists who saw it were reminded to be wholly reliant upon heaven and the God Who reigns supreme. Their focus was Jesus Christ, and their concern was living by conviction without fear of a worldly cost.

https://www.appealtoheaven.org/


God bless America.







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What organisations do you also support who are involved with helping single parent families etc?

I founded a ministry called the Joseph Storehouse Group that has supported many different causes, such as single moms.





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Yes it is difficult watching the U.S. turn into a third world anti-christian country.

And it is going to snowball under the present administration, and I doubt it will ever recover.

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Yes it is difficult watching the U.S. turn into a third world anti-christian country.

And it is going to snowball under the present administration, and I doubt it will ever recover.

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How is the US becoming a third world country? Our ecconomy is still strong and we still have some of the most liberal freedoms that date back to the founding of our nation.
 

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How is the US becoming a third world country? Our ecconomy is still strong and we still have some of the most liberal freedoms that date back to the founding of our nation.

21 trillion in debt?

'still have some' means they are slowly going away.

The changing of the dominate race which was white, which are descendants of Japheth, to the people of color, which are descendants of Ham.

The removal of Christianity from our government.

'liberal freedoms'?

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21 trillion in debt?
The debt only means anything if we default. The US could call in multiple debts to pay to prevent a default if we really wanted to. The debt is mostly political theater.
'still have some' means they are slowly going away.
Such as?
The changing of the dominate race which was white, which are descendants of Japheth, to the people of color, which are descendants of Ham.
That's not biblically supported. That's literally nonsense made up by southern theologians to justify slavery and to fuel the Lost cause narrative. Skin tone literally only tracks with climate distribution.

Not to mentionthat race isn't even mention in the Genesis account of the Curse of Ham. It tracks that The Cannanites were cursed, but nothing links the black people of Africa with the lineage of Ham.

The removal of Christianity from our government.
You mean the founding of our country? You are aware that Christians are allowed and do have seats in all wings of the government right? This rhetoric is literally pulled from the Regan era "moral majority" platform that was meant to change the US government.

'liberal freedoms'?

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Yes, the United States was founded on liberal values of a democratic elected Republic. Many Conservative movements use liberal to mean left, when liberal refers to individual rights, property rights, democracy, regulated markets (basicly just capitalism with common sense), and a focus countrywide advancement.

Conservatism on the other hand is a blending of fiscal policy (laissez-faire capitalism), social conservatism (Evangelical Christianity), and agressive foreign intervention.(originally Coldwar anti communism/ socialism, now more focused on Anti Terrorism)
 
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If i may ,when you can rent a house amd pay more then buying it,you might have a problem
When you cant afford a new car nor a used one ,and so forth
 

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The debt only means anything if we default. The US could call in multiple debts to pay to prevent a default if we really wanted to. The debt is mostly political theater.

Such as?

That's not biblically supported. That's literally nonsense made up by southern theologians to justify slavery and to fuel the Lost cause narrative. Skin tone literally only tracks with climate distribution.

Not to mentionthat race isn't even mention in the Genesis account of the Curse of Ham. It tracks that The Cannanites were cursed, but nothing links the black people of Africa with the lineage of Ham.


You mean the founding of our country? You are aware that Christians are allowed and do have seats in all wings of the government right? This rhetoric is literally pulled from the Regan era "moral majority" platform that was meant to change the US government.


Yes, the United States was founded on liberal values of a democratic elected Republic. Many Conservative movements use liberal to mean left, when liberal refers to individual rights, property rights, democracy, regulated markets (basicly just capitalism with common sense), and a focus countrywide advancement.

Conservatism on the other hand is a blending of fiscal policy (laissez-faire capitalism), social conservatism (Evangelical Christianity), and agressive foreign intervention.(originally Coldwar anti communism/ socialism, now more focused on Anti Terrorism)

Oh, it's all political theater. Doesn't mean the debt is not real. Doesn't mean the U.S. is not in debt. Doesn't mean the U.S is not in debt to China. If our economy is so great, why do we need to borrow money from China?

'still have some' is your statement, not mine. So, you give me the ones we still have and the ones we no longer have.

Southern theologians didn't have to justify slavery. Slavery was justified and protected by the Constitution. Perhaps that is one of those 'ones we no longer have' that you speak of.

Let's see, you're not Christian yet you want to tell me, a Christian, what the Bible really says? Slavery is Biblically supported. That is both Old and New Testament. The Christian is bought and paid for. (1 Cor. 6:20). You who are a liberal want to tell Christians what their Bible really says. Typical.

The curse doesn't just involve Canaan. It involved all of Ham's descendants. Canaan was the last in line and had nothing to do with Ham's sin. Yet he was cursed. The curse covered all of Ham's descendants. Shem and Japheth were blessed. Ham's descendants were cursed. (Gen. 9:24-27) Ham received no blessing.

So, all those third world people are storming and trying to get into White ruled countries. Yet no whites are trying to storm their way into Africa, or from whatever third world country they come from. You can deny it all you like. You can claim how terrible what I said is. But you can't stop it. And all one has to do is read the news and you can see it.

So, fly those Hatians into the U.S. Make sure the majority of immigrants are from third world countries. Then guess what? You become a third world country. Under the rule of Ham. Under the curse of God. Houses are cheap in Detroit.

No, I mean all things Christian are being removed from our government. Prayer, the Bible as the Book on which we swear an oath, the Ten Commandments from our public places, etc. etc.

Social conservatism may be culturally Christian but it is not equated with evangelical Christianity. But, most Christians will be conservative.

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Oh, it's all political theater. Doesn't mean the debt is not real. Doesn't mean the U.S. is not in debt. Doesn't mean the U.S is not in debt to China. If our economy is so great, why do we need to borrow money from China?
You are aware that China is also in debt to us? Debt at the government level is nothing like at the personal level. It's more investment.

'still have some' is your statement, not mine. So, you give me the ones we still have and the ones we no longer have.
You are the one that said we lost rights and means. I have a feeling you can't quantify what you mean by that.

Southern theologians didn't have to justify slavery.
Yeah the southern states did Slavery has always been controversial in the US. The Eugenics movement here in the states spent decades trying and failing to justify the inferiority of non white races.


Slavery was justified and protected by the Constitution. Perhaps that is one of those 'ones we no longer have' that you speak of.
No, it actually was not. It just wasn't banned. That's why there was so much tension leading up to the Civil War, the new Republican party and former Wigg party kept adding restrictions to slavery.


Let's see, you're not Christian yet you want to tell me, a Christian, what the Bible really says?
Yep, because I used to be a Christian and did a ton of Bible study at very conservative churches. Plus reading what apologists say on the issue is also informative.


Slavery is Biblically supported. That is both Old and New Testament. The Christian is bought and paid for. (1 Cor. 6:20). You who are a liberal want to tell Christians what their Bible really says. Typical.
You are changing the argument. I know the Bible justifies slavery. I even got dinged by a mod here once because I pointed that out to them.
Your argument is that black people are the descendants of Ham. Buy there is no such link.


The curse doesn't just involve Canaan. It involved all of Ham's descendants. Canaan was the last in line and had nothing to do with Ham's sin. Yet he was cursed. The curse covered all of Ham's descendants. Shem and Japheth were blessed. Ham's descendants were cursed. (Gen. 9:24-27) Ham received no blessing.
Man you don't know your Bible. The Cannanites were the descendants of Ham. That is why I think its funny, because I ppinrednout that Egyprions qualify as Black with their nuebian heritage, but you dismissed that because black people just want to steal greatness. That causes more holes for you because if the flood myth is true the Egyptians would be descendants of Ham....... the big problem is the m mental gymnastics needed to continue this Eugenics nonsense.


So, all those third world people are storming and trying to get into White ruled countries. Yet no whites are trying to storm their way into Africa, or from whatever third world country they come from.
You mean because of the huge Mounts of meddling that Europe did to both Africa and the Middle East that collapsed empires and divided up lands for commercial/ strategic use? It seems like you don't know a lot about what happened post world War 2 a n d that many AmericN and European countries have allowed corporations to move in with military supported. You should really see what Nestlé and the World bank did to most of Africa. Oh and it also doesn't help that Both North America and Europe have involved themselves in destabilizing countries all over the world to get better trade deals with puppet dictators.

You can deny it all you like. You can claim how terrible what I said is. But you can't stop it. And all one has to do is read the news and you can see it.
Yep, people are seeing the results of America and Europe's interventionist policies and refusal to take responsibility.
So, fly those Hatians into the U.S. Make sure the majority of immigrants are from third world countries. Then guess what? You become a third world country. Under the rule of Ham. Under the curse of God. Houses are cheap in Detroit.
Oh you mentioning Haiti who the US and Europe purposefully keep I'd and trade from to punish them for a slave revolt that happened hundreds of years ago.

No, I mean all things Christian are being removed from our government. Prayer, the Bible as the Book on which we swear an oath, the Ten Commandments from our public places, etc. etc.
You are aware that most of that stuff came about post world War 2 as a means to spite the USSR right? The problem was always that it was wrong for the government to endorse this. However it's really hard to fight against it at the time considering people were labeled as communist sympathizers if they protested. Thanks to the cold War ending people can point out its always been wrong.


Social conservatism may be culturally Christian but it is not equated with evangelical Christianity. But, most Christians will be conservative.

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Yes it is, considering that social conservatism was born out of the Evangelical movement in the US who backed and Won the nomination for Regan with the Moral Magority.

You really don't know your US history.
 

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Oh, I agree. The current credit system in the US is crazy complicated and unforgiving.
i would venture the system makes one easily became homeless ,file bankruptcy like I have and see how it works .i blame myself first but the banks in with the govt created this problem
 

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i would venture the system makes one easily became homeless ,file bankruptcy like I have and see how it works .i blame myself first but the banks in with the govt created this problem
Yep, they got us coming and going there. I need to do more research into the legislation around banking. What I have read is a complicated mess.
 

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Yep, they got us coming and going there. I need to do more research into the legislation around banking. What I have read is a complicated mess.
different states laws on bankruptcy limit what creditors can claim ,your primary house of residence is off limits in Florida if you intend to pay it and they will have to include your back payments .

look up that case in your state about the rv and zoning laws ,poor lady lost her home to a tornado and insurance gave her an rv the city fines her for that
 

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You are aware that China is also in debt to us? Debt at the government level is nothing like at the personal level. It's more investment.


You are the one that said we lost rights and means. I have a feeling you can't quantify what you mean by that.


Yeah the southern states did Slavery has always been controversial in the US. The Eugenics movement here in the states spent decades trying and failing to justify the inferiority of non white races.



No, it actually was not. It just wasn't banned. That's why there was so much tension leading up to the Civil War, the new Republican party and former Wigg party kept adding restrictions to slavery.



Yep, because I used to be a Christian and did a ton of Bible study at very conservative churches. Plus reading what apologists say on the issue is also informative.



You are changing the argument. I know the Bible justifies slavery. I even got dinged by a mod here once because I pointed that out to them.
Your argument is that black people are the descendants of Ham. Buy there is no such link.



Man you don't know your Bible. The Cannanites were the descendants of Ham. That is why I think its funny, because I ppinrednout that Egyprions qualify as Black with their nuebian heritage, but you dismissed that because black people just want to steal greatness. That causes more holes for you because if the flood myth is true the Egyptians would be descendants of Ham....... the big problem is the m mental gymnastics needed to continue this Eugenics nonsense.



You mean because of the huge Mounts of meddling that Europe did to both Africa and the Middle East that collapsed empires and divided up lands for commercial/ strategic use? It seems like you don't know a lot about what happened post world War 2 a n d that many AmericN and European countries have allowed corporations to move in with military supported. You should really see what Nestlé and the World bank did to most of Africa. Oh and it also doesn't help that Both North America and Europe have involved themselves in destabilizing countries all over the world to get better trade deals with puppet dictators.


Yep, people are seeing the results of America and Europe's interventionist policies and refusal to take responsibility.

Oh you mentioning Haiti who the US and Europe purposefully keep I'd and trade from to punish them for a slave revolt that happened hundreds of years ago.


You are aware that most of that stuff came about post world War 2 as a means to spite the USSR right? The problem was always that it was wrong for the government to endorse this. However it's really hard to fight against it at the time considering people were labeled as communist sympathizers if they protested. Thanks to the cold War ending people can point out its always been wrong.



Yes it is, considering that social conservatism was born out of the Evangelical movement in the US who backed and Won the nomination for Regan with the Moral Magority.

You really don't know your US history.

It's debt on the national level. It always affects the individual persons. Higher interest rates, loss of jobs, higher taxes.

Again, 'still have some' is your statement. Identify those we no longer have and those we have.

No, slavery throughout the U.S. was protected by the Constitution. Not just the South. You had slavery in the North also. The final ruling came with the Supreme Courts decision in the Dred Scott case. Slavery was protected by the Constitution and by the Supreme Courts ruling.

Oh, 'a used to be' christian. One of those. And with tons of Bible study behind you. OK. Typical. The unbeliever always wants to tell the believer what the Bible really says. Then you should recognize how slavery is from God. Both Old and New Testaments. Correct?

I'm not changing anything. Both the U.S. Constitution and the Bible justified slavery. If you know the Bible justifies slavery, then why do you claim the Southern people needed to justify slavery?

Blacks are the descendants of Ham. Cush is the first son of Ham. (Gen. 10:6) Not the only son, but the first. Cush means black. It is often translated as 'Ethiopian' in Scripture. (Jer. 13:23) Located in Africa.

The Egyptians are descendants of Ham also. But so are the Negros.

No, I mean the third world peoples are all storming the borders of white run countries. Why? Because they would rather live there then the rat hole they have been living in and the conditions they have created. And of course blacks want to blame someone for all their problems. Especially the whites. It's never their fault. Someone else's fault. And so someone else owes me.

My point is this. It is Ham's fault. (Gen. 9:22) And it resulted in the curse of God upon his race. That has never been lifted. The blessing was upon Shem. And Japheth entered into those blessings. This doesn't mean the individual black man cannot be saved or cannot rise above his circumstances. He certainly can. This speaks to the races as a whole. And once the U.S. moves to where the Negro race is dominate in it's political decisions, which is what it is doing, then the U.S. moves itself under the said curse also. Of course the U.S. will ignore it. But it can't change it.

As I said, the U.S. is abandoning it's Christian roots and I gave examples of how. Which contributes to us becoming nothing but a third world country as I originally pointed out.

There are many who identify with being conservatives who are not Christians. The two are not the same.

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It's debt on the national level. It always affects the individual persons. Higher interest rates, loss of jobs, higher taxes.
How? Please explain the mechanism.

Again, 'still have some' is your statement. Identify those we no longer have and those we have.
So do you just want me to post a pdf to both Black's Law dictionary and the Constitution?

No, slavery throughout the U.S. was protected by the Constitution.
Which article?

Not just the South. You had slavery in the North also. The final ruling came with the Supreme Courts decision in the Dred Scott case. Slavery was protected by the Constitution and by the Supreme Courts ruling.

Dred Scott did not enshrined slavery, but excluded African people from citizenship.
Oh, 'a used to be' christian. One of those. And with tons of Bible study behind you. OK. Typical. The unbeliever always wants to tell the believer what the Bible really says. Then you should recognize how slavery is from God. Both Old and New Testaments. Correct?
Yep, I know the difference between in group and out group slavery. However I recognize that slavery is a dead end system that violates an individual's autonomy so I despise it.

I'm not changing anything. Both the U.S. Constitution and the Bible justified slavery. If you know the Bible justifies slavery, then why do you claim the Southern people needed to justify slavery?
I don't know, because the US wasn't a theocracy and there was constant pressure to do away with it. Eugenics/ scientific racism was.an attempt to add a secular reason to keep slavery.

Blacks are the descendants of Ham. Cush is the first son of Ham. (Gen. 10:6) Not the only son, but the first. Cush means black. It is often translated as 'Ethiopian' in Scripture. (Jer. 13:23) Located in Africa.
You mean the nubians who you claimed to me were not black because that disputes claims you made before that the blacks didn't build anything.

The Egyptians are descendants of Ham also. But so are the Negros.
Which ones? You are aware that there isn't just one black lineage and ethnic group right?

No, I mean the third world peoples are all storming the borders of white run countries. Why? Because they would rather live there then the rat hole they have been living in and the conditions they have created.
You mean the conditions created by western imperialism and medling? The US CIA has interfered and back coups when elections in Africq, the middle East, and South America didn't go the way we wanted.


And of course blacks want to blame someone for all their problems. Especially the whites. It's never their fault. Someone else's fault. And so someone else medling?
No one said it's the White's fault. XD the problems that devastated these countries were due to agressive policies by western countries. Maybe we as a country should stop exploiting these places and the people can fix them.

My point is this. It is Ham's fault. (Gen. 9:22) And it resulted in the curse of God upon his race. That has never been lifted. The blessing was upon Shem. And Japheth entered into those blessings. This doesn't mean the individual black man cannot be saved or cannot rise above his circumstances. He certainly can. This speaks to the races as a whole.
Right here you are blending Eugenics psudeo science with very Shakey Biblical evidence. For instance there isn't one black race. There are 6 umbrella ethnicities with multiple sub groups. This also ignores that Jesus lifted blood line curses.

And once the U.S. moves to where the Negro race is dominate in it's political decisions, which is what it is doing, then the U.S. moves itself under the said curse also. Of course the U.S. will ignore it. But it can't change it.
The US isn't being dominated by a group that is roughly 14% of the population. Unles you are implying that all non European ethnic groups are now Negro, and oh boi that's that's whole new can of worms.

As I said, the U.S. is abandoning it's Christian roots and I gave examples of how.
Your examples are from the 50s that was almost 180 years after the founding. Those aren't roots.


Which contributes to us becoming nothing but a third world country as I originally pointed out.
You don't seem to understand that a third world country is a country with neither a loyalty to the USSR or The United States right? The teem is a cold war term that doesn't mean anything anymore. Unless you mean the US is suddenly going to poof all our industry and infrastructure away because the skin shade makes any kind of difference on whether we have a functioning government or industry.

There are many who identify with being conservatives who are not Christians. The two are not the same.

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That's why I keep qualifying it with social conservative. However, in the US the grand magority of Conservatives are Christian.
 
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