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OK. I just gave a "like" to a post about the Barna group's research on Christians. Turns out...a solid, Christian worldview is more the exception to the rule than anything else (!!!).

I find this frightening. I'm a Baby Christian myself, and I'm trying to Christianize my outlook ("hold all thoughts captive to Christ"). It ain't easy!

In my case, I have years of psychobabble, plus Sociology, to bring under Christ (or reject outright). That's not easy, but its worthwhile.

OK. Of the Christians y'all associate with, how many do you think are developing a Christian worldview? I live in the South ("Bible Belt--1,000 miles wide, 1 inch deep"), and Christianity (of a sort...) is still a part of the lingering old southern culture. Thing is, people don't seem to believe in Christianity that *changes* people, that results in inner transformation. I guess Christianity means respectability and a new level of southern-ness. I dunno.

I'm blessed, personally. I don't want to come off as being better than anybody. I get to take college level Christian-themed classes at Liberty Online *and* get a degree that (fingers crossed) will get me a job. Most people don't get that. Most people also don't get discipled after conversion, which I think has been a long standing problem in the church. Most people have to deal with the world more than I do, too.

I wonder...has it always been this way? "Many are called, few are chosen." Wolves in sheep's clothing, the wheat and the tares, etc. etc. Or is it a last day's issue? I mean, it seems that we have more of what I've heard referred to as "carnal Christians" than in the past, along with more teachers and preachers who clearly stray from old school Christian practices and teachings.
 
God gives us all a choice.We are subjected to God sometime in our life.The big question is:Where do you want to spend your eternity?
 
Can you elaborate upon just what your idea of "old school Christian practices and teachings" is?
 
OK. Like...sexual morality, no heavy drinking or drug abuse, try to stay married, repentance, "working out your salvation with fear and trembling..."

I dunno. The church I grew up in (PCUSA) is now so "tolerant" that they can't really seem to save people (or keep members). We have a mega church here, locally, and its really popular, but...kinda shady. Local newspapers have covered some stuff, like lawsuits and such, going on. That sort of thing seems to happen to a lot of mega churches.

Maybe its just here, with the weird mix of people moving for jobs (everybody's moving down here, y'all!), old school southern culture (on the skids...), and a lot of academicians and college students. I dunno.
 
Christ_empowered said:
OK. I just gave a "like" to a post about the Barna group's research on Christians. Turns out...a solid, Christian worldview is more the exception to the rule than anything else (!!!).

I find this frightening. I'm a Baby Christian myself, and I'm trying to Christianize my outlook ("hold all thoughts captive to Christ"). It ain't easy!

In my case, I have years of psychobabble, plus Sociology, to bring under Christ (or reject outright). That's not easy, but its worthwhile.

OK. Of the Christians y'all associate with, how many do you think are developing a Christian worldview? I live in the South ("Bible Belt--1,000 miles wide, 1 inch deep"), and Christianity (of a sort...) is still a part of the lingering old southern culture. Thing is, people don't seem to believe in Christianity that *changes* people, that results in inner transformation. I guess Christianity means respectability and a new level of southern-ness. I dunno.

I'm blessed, personally. I don't want to come off as being better than anybody. I get to take college level Christian-themed classes at Liberty Online *and* get a degree that (fingers crossed) will get me a job. Most people don't get that. Most people also don't get discipled after conversion, which I think has been a long standing problem in the church. Most people have to deal with the world more than I do, too.

I wonder...has it always been this way? "Many are called, few are chosen." Wolves in sheep's clothing, the wheat and the tares, etc. etc. Or is it a last day's issue? I mean, it seems that we have more of what I've heard referred to as "carnal Christians" than in the past, along with more teachers and preachers who clearly stray from old school Christian practices and teachings.
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All the things you listed "wolves in sheep's clothing, etc." obviously were problems even in the 1st century church, why would we expect it to be better now? People heard Jesus speak, listened to the apostles the best teachers ever and there were still problems.
 
There are several things that I really resisted even looking at, at first, because of my "old school" teaching. But once I finally learned how to read the Bible for what it actually says, rather than reading it to prove my preconceived misconceptions, God became a real father to me.
 
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Deborah13 said:
All the things you listed "wolves in sheep's clothing, etc." obviously were problems even in the 1st century church, why would we expect it to be better now? People heard Jesus speak, listened to the apostles the best teachers ever and there were still problems.
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Yes,in the Parable of the Rich man he said that he wanted to go and warn his friends.He was told that they still would not believe or listen.
 
I am sure what a non-christians will do but Christians have no limits. We are always perfecting ourselves and overcoming our short comings. Sometimes, I am not sure how I would react in a situation until I am in it? There are morals, values, family culture, place of origin. Many influences are in our lives. There is no cut sheet list for every situation for Christians. We try, we win, we fail, we retreat, we excel....
 
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Lady Terra said:
I am sure what a non-christian will do but a christian has no limits. We are always perfecting ourselves and overcoming our short comings. Sometimes, I am not sure how I would react in a situation until I am in it? There are morals, values, family culture, place of origin. Many influences are in our lives. There is no cut sheet list for every situation for Christians. We try, we win, we fail, we retreat, we excel....
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How can we perfect ourselves?Do you think that a Christian should look upon themselve for improvement?
 
Christ_empowered said:
OK. I just gave a "like" to a post about the Barna group's research on Christians. Turns out...a solid, Christian worldview is more the exception to the rule than anything else (!!!).

I find this frightening. I'm a Baby Christian myself, and I'm trying to Christianize my outlook ("hold all thoughts captive to Christ"). It ain't easy!

In my case, I have years of psychobabble, plus Sociology, to bring under Christ (or reject outright). That's not easy, but its worthwhile.

OK. Of the Christians y'all associate with, how many do you think are developing a Christian worldview? I live in the South ("Bible Belt--1,000 miles wide, 1 inch deep"), and Christianity (of a sort...) is still a part of the lingering old southern culture. Thing is, people don't seem to believe in Christianity that *changes* people, that results in inner transformation. I guess Christianity means respectability and a new level of southern-ness. I dunno.

I'm blessed, personally. I don't want to come off as being better than anybody. I get to take college level Christian-themed classes at Liberty Online *and* get a degree that (fingers crossed) will get me a job. Most people don't get that. Most people also don't get discipled after conversion, which I think has been a long standing problem in the church. Most people have to deal with the world more than I do, too.

I wonder...has it always been this way? "Many are called, few are chosen." Wolves in sheep's clothing, the wheat and the tares, etc. etc. Or is it a last day's issue? I mean, it seems that we have more of what I've heard referred to as "carnal Christians" than in the past, along with more teachers and preachers who clearly stray from old school Christian practices and teachings.
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So you are saying that Churches now are more liberal?
 
Christ_empowered said:
OK. I just gave a "like" to a post about the Barna group's research on Christians. Turns out...a solid, Christian worldview is more the exception to the rule than anything else (!!!).

I find this frightening. I'm a Baby Christian myself, and I'm trying to Christianize my outlook ("hold all thoughts captive to Christ"). It ain't easy!

In my case, I have years of psychobabble, plus Sociology, to bring under Christ (or reject outright). That's not easy, but its worthwhile.

OK. Of the Christians y'all associate with, how many do you think are developing a Christian worldview? I live in the South ("Bible Belt--1,000 miles wide, 1 inch deep"), and Christianity (of a sort...) is still a part of the lingering old southern culture. Thing is, people don't seem to believe in Christianity that *changes* people, that results in inner transformation. I guess Christianity means respectability and a new level of southern-ness. I dunno.

I'm blessed, personally. I don't want to come off as being better than anybody. I get to take college level Christian-themed classes at Liberty Online *and* get a degree that (fingers crossed) will get me a job. Most people don't get that. Most people also don't get discipled after conversion, which I think has been a long standing problem in the church. Most people have to deal with the world more than I do, too.

I wonder...has it always been this way? "Many are called, few are chosen." Wolves in sheep's clothing, the wheat and the tares, etc. etc. Or is it a last day's issue? I mean, it seems that we have more of what I've heard referred to as "carnal Christians" than in the past, along with more teachers and preachers who clearly stray from old school Christian practices and teachings.
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“One hundred religious persons knit into a unity by careful organization do not constitute a church any more than eleven dead men make a football team.” A.W.Tozer
It's always been this way.
 
Kathi said:
How is 'Christian Worldview" defined?
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The article defines it right at the beginning.


Defining Terms

For the purposes of the survey, a “biblical worldview” was defined as believing that absolute moral truth exists; the Bible is totally accurate in all of the principles it teaches; Satan is considered to be a real being or force, not merely symbolic; a person cannot earn their way into Heaven by trying to be good or do good works; Jesus Christ lived a sinless life on earth; and God is the all-knowing, all-powerful creator of the world who still rules the universe today. In the research, anyone who held all of those beliefs was said to have a biblical worldview.
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The TOG​
 
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