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How MUCH Did Jesus Suffer?

Vince

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Okay, I've heard this question before, and I have never come across the answer (as far as I know).

Did Jesus suffer as much as everyone would have suffered for their sins? Or did He suffer enough to be our representative, but it was still less than all mankind would have suffered?
 
He suffered more then we will ever know. He suffered physically, mentally, emotionally, and spiritually. :sad
 
Okay, I've heard this question before, and I have never come across the answer (as far as I know).

Did Jesus suffer as much as everyone would have suffered for their sins? Or did He suffer enough to be our representative, but it was still less than all mankind would have suffered?
Much more. Begining with removing himself from his natural and position, of indescriable glory and peace .
 
Here's the way I've considered this question, right, wrong, or indifferent.

Crucifixion wasn't something unique. Others were beaten, mocked, flogged, whipped, degraded, insulted, and crucified all the time so why was Jesus' crucifixion so different? Not only did he willingly suffer physically, emotionally, and mentally despite his innocence, try to picture this.

I believe that Jesus had a connection to God that we will never experience in this life. I think that is why he kept referring to his disciples and consequently all of us as, "Ye of little faith." We keep saying that we need to "know Him" and have a "personal relationship" with Him. Jesus did know Him at a personal level we can't even imagine. He demonstrated the level of his faith by healing, casting out demons, reading peoples thoughts, etc.

When he was hanging on that cross and uttered the phrase, "Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani?" I wonder if that is when he really suffered because that is when he felt the weight of all our sins upon his shoulders and for a moment felt a separation from God the Father he had never experienced before. Imagine the loss he would have felt.

He didn't suffer and die because of himself. He suffered and died for us, that we may be saved through Him. That was the difference in his crucifixion from the others.
 
He suffered more then we will ever know. He suffered physically, mentally, emotionally, and spiritually. :sad

AMEN, that is true. Add to that the incredible weight of the burden of every sin in the world from Adam to the last person who will ever be born...no one can ever know that kind of suffering, but Jesus alone does.
 
When a human sacrificed himself in a painful way to save some ants. I don't think to proper to compare if he's suffered as what the ants having been "sinned".
 
Here's the way I've considered this question, right, wrong, or indifferent.

Crucifixion wasn't something unique. Others were beaten, mocked, flogged, whipped, degraded, insulted, and crucified all the time so why was Jesus' crucifixion so different? Not only did he willingly suffer physically, emotionally, and mentally despite his innocence, try to picture this.

I believe that Jesus had a connection to God that we will never experience in this life. I think that is why he kept referring to his disciples and consequently all of us as, "Ye of little faith." We keep saying that we need to "know Him" and have a "personal relationship" with Him. Jesus did know Him at a personal level we can't even imagine. He demonstrated the level of his faith by healing, casting out demons, reading peoples thoughts, etc.

When he was hanging on that cross and uttered the phrase, "Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani?" I wonder if that is when he really suffered because that is when he felt the weight of all our sins upon his shoulders and for a moment felt a separation from God the Father he had never experienced before. Imagine the loss he would have felt.

He didn't suffer and die because of himself. He suffered and died for us, that we may be saved through Him. That was the difference in his crucifixion from the others.

I thought this was very insightful. Take the old phrase "better to have loved and lost, than to never have loved at all" and multiply it exponentially. To be One with the Father for eternity and experience even a moment of separation from him can only be indescribable. I've always focused on the weight of the world's sins being on Christ, but even that pales in comparison to His separation at that moment.
 
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